Zookeeper Gabe's Animal Thread V6.0

cool pics!

man I told myself no more pets right now but I made friends with someone who can get me a captive bred beautiful green tree python for like $120. Considering it
 
They are gorgeous but usually pricks.

As long as you just want for display they are pretty. Also don't really do much as far as activisty.
 
I saw something very odd yesterday. I'm in SE AK, and the town has a burn pit a few miles out of town, for people to burn yard waste, old wood, cardboard, ect... I drove up to dump some debris, and there was a young Black tail Sitka deer, in the pit, eating charcoal. I've seen them licking salt up from tide flats before but have never heard of them eating charcoal. Gabe, have you ever heard of this, and could it be sick or something? It was also very odd, because the deer did not run away from me, and actually walked up to me, and stayed with 15 feet of me for around 10 minutes. It's hunting season up here soon, so hopefully he gets some fear of people otherwise he will be dinner for someone really soon.

On a lighter note, I saw a Black Bear, with 3 cubs, who were wrestling and play fighting like crazy, while mom dug up clams. Very tiny cubs, and mom was on the small size, probably under 200lbs.
 
Interesting. Animals have been known to eat charcoal during times on stomach upset. It also may have been searching for minerals.
 
theocean said:
I think i know the answer, but how bad are places like Tiger Kingdom in Thailand Gabe? I mean for the animals themselves? Any idea?

http://www.tigerkingdom.com/
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Not good. A lot of those places are known to partially sedate animals for pictures. They usually always have lots of cubs but the adult tigers numbers almaot never go up. They sell the cubs off as they get bigger.
That being said I did a very brief look at the site and made a quick judgement. I could be wrong. Bit I don't really support any places that do photo ops like that.
 
Zookeeper Gabe said:
Not good. A lot of those places are known to partially sedate animals for pictures. They usually always have lots of cubs but the adult tigers numbers almaot never go up. They sell the cubs off as they get bigger.
That being said I did a very brief look at the site and made a quick judgement. I could be wrong. Bit I don't really support any places that do photo ops like that.
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Yea i couldnt help but go. It looked small but the tigers seemed from my noob point of view to be pretty healthy (looks wise) at least. I dont think they were sedated either, some of them were all over the damn place. I mean they could always sedate certain ones but i was impressed with how awake the all seemed, cause i thought going in theyd be sedated too, even though it says they dont.

I feel a lttle bad supporting it, but getting there it was nicer than i thought it would be, just seemed small space wise. They actually had more large tigers than cubs. I just had to do it though, its not often i get to see tigers so close.
I envy your job choice vs mine.
 
theocean said:
I think i know the answer, but how bad are places like Tiger Kingdom in Thailand Gabe? I mean for the animals themselves? Any idea?

http://www.tigerkingdom.com/
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Not exactly tigers, more elephants, but I went to a place in Thailand that was pretty depressing. All the elephants were chained up and although they had a little space to move around, I remember one was just stood there stomping its feet and rocking back and forth like it'd gone mad or something. They were all like Zeppelin size but kept in place by tiny little chains, which made me wonder how they kept those beasts so obedient. The smaller baby elephants had a lot more freedom though and were kept in a pen where you could feed them
 
Zer said:
Not exactly tigers, more elephants, but I went to a place in Thailand that was pretty depressing. All the elephants were chained up and although they had a little space to move around, I remember one was just stood there stomping its feet and rocking back and forth like it'd gone mad or something. They were all like Zeppelin size but kept in place by tiny little chains, which made me wonder how they kept those beasts so obedient. The smaller baby elephants had a lot more freedom though and were kept in a pen where you could feed them
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I think i did that too, but we never saw where the elephants went. They just took us and disappeared into the woods.
 
Gabei what you think of wolf hybrids as pets.

I know its russian roulette, it may be more dog and act like one or it be all wolf personality and try to be alpha.

Logically or better scientifically how many gens of breeding before natural wolf traits start to diminish while becoming more dog like and dog traits start dominating. Keep in mind its a hybrid starting of with 50/50 wolf/dog. Though additional wolf blood is added along the way to maintain the wolf look.

Has any one ever done a study of how long domestication takes ? The ruskies managed to turn foxes into working pets pretty fast.
 
seatea said:
That looks right. I wonder if it's mouths flaps are used to threaten predators.

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Hmmm. Would like to interact with one. Wonder if they're grumpy like uros?
 
The Clinch said:
Hmmm. Would like to interact with one. Wonder if they're grumpy like uros?
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They have a standard agama attitude. Not super friendly, some calm down though. Uromastyx in general are more friendly id say.

@abezal- wolf hybrids are very very tough. I would consider a 50-50 to be high content and the higher the content the more difficult they are to maintain. There's plenty of people that can handle them. But there's also a lot that can't.
 
So fucking psyched. Had a long shitty day and was just checking on my gargoyle gecko eggs. I see this poking out!!' After 130 days of incubation

For size reference
 
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