Relationship Your brain on porn science

[method115]

Thanks for providing a good example of exactly what I was saying, a load of pseudo scientific guff from a religious group hawking product.

Yes I was doing some research on this subject and it seems to be pretty well known that this subject is filled with tons of scammers just trying to make money off of it. Like the lady in the OP has a whole site built on helping people recover from porn addiction. When she talks about her degrees she is very obscure about what bachelor degrees she has but is very specific about her certifications. It had all the signs of a scam artist. Be specific about things that will impress people and obscure the things that will only make people question your qualifications.

 

[moreorless87]

Yes I was doing some research on this subject and it seems to be pretty well known that this subject is filled with tons of scammers just trying to make money off of it. Like the lady in the OP has a whole site built on helping people recover from porn addiction. When she talks about her degrees she is very obscure about what bachelor degrees she has but is very specific about her certifications. It had all the signs of a scam artist. Be specific about things that will impress people and obscure the things that will only make people question your qualifications.

Basically quote a few qualifications, make a lot of wild claims based on "research" that actually shows very little to add credibility to some kind of scam probably with religion involved somewhere.

Look at this and tell me it doesn't scream narcissistic cult leader....

https://conquerseries.com/meet-dr-ted-roberts

Its this kind of stuff and the culture around it that I would suggest is a bigger threat to the happiness and the wallet of the average Sherdogger.

 

[Codpiece]

The proof is in the pudding and there's plenty of people that claim porn ruined their relationships and made changes that changed their lives.

There's lots of undisputed science.
Take your time and check it out.

Former porn addict here, this is consistent with my experience. My sexual function changed completely after getting away from porn, it’s poison for the mind. People defend their use of porn just like an addict of any other vice will, but life’s way better without it.


Unrelated: the phrase is actually “the proof of the pudding is in the eating”, meaning that you need to try something and get practical experience to know if its worthwhile. Pudding may look good or bad, but unless you taste it, you won’t know if it’s a good or bad pudding. Nobody ever opened a pudding and exclaimed “Aha! Here is the evidence I sought!” (or similar).

 

[LiQuiD42]

 

[unimackpass]

You are dealing with addicts who are at the end game. Broken beyond repair. We can try to have them see reason, provide actual science, facts backed with years of Intense research, but they will go to extraordinary lengths to justify the addiction. The excuses, the exceptions, the bending of morals, twisting of facts, warped realities.. all classic symptoms of addiction.

the biggest hack any addiction has is making you believe it is not a problem.

try to leave it alone for a year.. that will be impossible for the addict.

Nailed it.
My dad lived in Alaska and my mom in Nevada.
My dad was a commercial fisherman and hunting guide that lived for the next adrenalin charged challenge. When I was 13 he lived with a 19yr old girl for the next seven years with a lot of crazy bar time going on.
The commercial fishing world was quite a environment to grow up in. Pornography was on everyone's boat and was part of the general attitude towards women, basically a sexual object. My dad thought it was great if I took a girl fishing for a week.
When I went back to Reno for school with fishing money it was all about skiing and scoring on the rich girls.
My mom remarried when I was a junior in high school and went traveling with Ray so I had the run of things for a couple years.
My buddies and I rented a place next to the ski slope and it turned into a continuous party spot. We lived like we were in collage and life was a continuous high, girls and skiing.
We talked how we were living everyone's dream and thought it would never end
There are so many ways the whole thing crashed that it was itself epic. Left the Tahoe ski world and flew to Dutch Harbor with everything behind me in shambles.

 

[eddymotto]

"porn science"

when the internet made porn so easy to access, I recall the moral panic was that there would be a generation of sex fiends and rapists unleashed on the world.

when that did not pan out the moral panic now seems to be that porn is causing the youths to not have enough sex

 

[Natural Order]

Bonobos with a creative coat of paint. Imagine not understanding our ancestry.

 

[dirtypablo]

I think really though in this case "addiction" tends to mean "unable to achieve complete abstinence" which is demanded by religion or some new age bro woo someone adheres to.

I'm not sure what really damaging addiction to pornography would entail, wanking a dozen times a day until you nob hurts a lot? spending vast amounts on it? even the latter I suspect really what they entails is when people fall for a certain porn star romantically, not really an addiction to wanking to it but a desire for an emotional connection.

The truth is wanking a few times a week is not really damaging physical/mentally, its not the equivalent of getting blind drunk several times a week or shooting up on smack or indeed of being obese due to over eating, its more something that people make into an issue by their desire to avoid it.

You don't know anything about sex/porn addiction.

 

[Paladin]

"porn science"

when the internet made porn so easy to access, I recall the moral panic was that there would be a generation of sex fiends and rapists unleashed on the world.

when that did not pan out the moral panic now seems to be that porn is causing the youths to not have enough sex

 

[Paladin]

When you say porn does that include self made porn as well? Cause I have a bunch of videos of me with other chicks. Does that count as well?

I’ll let you decide

 

[Prefect]

Duh. I don't think porn is bad in of itself but nearly everything in life that is an easy huge dose for dopamine is bad for motivation and interest and arousal in new things. Exercise is can be very addictive and is the only thing that I know of that is a good dopamine dump.

I can't find it but there is a video someplace of Robert Sapolsky talking about addiction and dopamine. Sex is a certain amount of dopamine. Weed is another amount. Meth and herion is off the charts. Everyone should try chem sex at least once. CBD sex can be pretty amazing.

The funny thing is he also talks about how dopamine spikes tremendously when there is uncertainty. The dopamine is released before the act. So, it is why gambling is addictive and one nights stands are exciting. Because you maybe will win or maybe will get laid. I have tried this with my wife and thought that just maybe this was going to be amazing and it worked.

 

[Hatorade]

My only issue with porn is that I do think it's very predatory toward a lot of the women involved. Most of those women doing legit porn are not intelligent and use hard drugs just like strippers and prostitutes. Most of them come from fucked up homes or the foster system.

My wife and I swing a bit. Her massage therapist that she was seeing for a while used to be a stripper and also did porn back in the day. She's actually pretty normal and was never into drugs or anything. She's definitely a straight up man hating lesbian these days. She told my wife she got out of porn because there was no money in it anymore. She was telling my wife that the industry got so over-saturated with amateur stuff that it got to the point that she was actually making more money stripping. We looked her up and found a video of her doing a glory hole scene. Lady sucks like a damn vacuum cleaner. My wife told her we watched a video of her and asked her if she would give me some lip service, but she said she hasn't touched a dick in over a decade and just wasn't into it. I would assume her having no interest in men anymore comes from her porn/stripper background.

 

[HoustonTexan]

I know guys in their 20s and 30s who can't maintain an erection with their wives/girlfriends because of all the porn they watch. It's the desensitization that kills the activity.

 

[listrahtes]

Porn functions like rewarding drugs you flood your brain with. There have been MRI scans of porn addicts and the Nucleus caudatus narrows and gets smaller. Thats very serious.
People are more prone to depression and alcoholism and it gets more and more difficult in general to get homone reward like Endorphin and especially Dopamin. This regards all aspects of a persons life.

The way dopamin f.e. works is not only reward but activating the motivation to go for a reward (that would be Oxytocin like Endorphin..etc) . Now you have so overactivated the system that the brain will shut down dopamin output and it will reduce dopamin activated synapses so you are fucked double.
The stimulus has to be raised again and again and by doing that you reduce the ability of your brain to react on stimuli more and more.

If you think about evolution sex is the absolute nr.1 so being able to have sex instantly activates all systems on a very high level. But in nature that was possible maybe several times a month at best. Now think about the difference when you watch porn. Its a quantity of stimuli that is literally flooding
and by that destrying all involved brain structures and chemical processes.

It actually works quite simililar with sugar junkies even if that sounds strange. Its a serious addiction were people need help if they have gone too far down.

 

[AristotleAmadopolis]

Nailed it.
My dad lived in Alaska and my mom in Nevada.
My dad was a commercial fisherman and hunting guide that lived for the next adrenalin charged challenge. When I was 13 he lived with a 19yr old girl for the next seven years with a lot of crazy bar time going on.
The commercial fishing world was quite a environment to grow up in. Pornography was on everyone's boat and was part of the general attitude towards women, basically a sexual object. My dad thought it was great if I took a girl fishing for a week.
When I went back to Reno for school with fishing money it was all about skiing and scoring on the rich girls.
My mom remarried when I was a junior in high school and went traveling with Ray so I had the run of things for a couple years.
My buddies and I rented a place next to the ski slope and it turned into a continuous party spot. We lived like we were in collage and life was a continuous high, girls and skiing.
We talked how we were living everyone's dream and thought it would never end
There are so many ways the whole thing crashed that it was itself epic. Left the Tahoe ski world and flew to Dutch Harbor with everything behind me in shambles.

yo i would watch this movie. Not sure who would be the cast. We go for adam sandler type or maybe owen wilson.