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No you're not.
I meant that kind of culture of making a glass of wine last for many hours doesn't exist in the cities.
Thank god you're dying out! lol
You must be that kind of yankee that looks shocked and in terror when he see topless girls on the beach.
 
You must be that kind of yankee that looks shocked and in terror when he see topless girls on the beach.

I'm not American. You exhibit deeply primitive thought patterns. I think you should bail on this conversation before it gets any more embarrassing for you.
 
Porn is fine. Addiction is real. You have to treat the addiction, not malign the item.

There's also plenty of useful arguments to be had about the industry that creates the pornography, but a lot of that will boil down to society trying to hide sexuality, leaving it to the underbelly players unafraid of pushback. Really it's all just nonsense to even talk about. People like porn. Hopefully they choose porn that is consenting and self-governing providers avoiding any form of exploitative measures.
 
I'm not American. You exhibit deeply primitive thought patterns. I think you should bail on this conversation before it gets any more embarrassing for you.
Yeah I'm the one embarassing himself <Lmaoo>

I really cannot imagine you talking to girls <Lmaoo>
 
I feel like porn is more damaging to guys that don't get to fuck attractive women.

I mean, I couldn't imagine constantly watching women that are infinitely more attractive than any woman I could ever get with only to have to get it up for some hog.

I remember several years ago I fucked some chick off a dating site that was not attractive in any way. Ugly face, no body, and slug personality. I remember thinking to myself about what life would be like if this was the only girl I could get. I remember her just bouncing on my dick like a rubber ball, and I could barely keep it up.

It was scary as shit, but that's reality for about half of all men.

I dont understand your post at all!

You save time by rubbing one out and going about your life as oppose to wasting time with what you mentioned, an ugly girl with no body and slug personality as you put it...

Porn is fine f you do not over do it. You get to rub one out and with the expelling of your sexual tension, you become more relaxed, more lucid and you get to be more logical with your thoughts. You also can focus on articulation of your own conversational skills and not be sex obsessed all day.

Human nature revolves around blame game.

Porn is destroying society,

Don`t watch the Simpsons, its bad for you

Video games are making kids violent

Internet is ruining peoples lives


I have heard this before to be honest with you. It just feels like a matter of accountability and self control.
 
Ofcourse she'll say that.. i think it's a power thing.. what the debate conveniently forgets is that women are the biggest slut shamers.. and this under the same breath as calling it empowering..

Sex is power.. it pisses women off seeing another, often hotter woman doing things to a man that she's uncomfortable with and without her being sure the man "deserves" it..

At that point it's convenient saying it's degrading.. a lot of these women have a lot more choice than say some coal miner in a 3rd world country.. we like to free these women (and men) from freedom of will because it makes for convenient arguments..

Being pissed off with porn is basically giving in to others' insecurities and inabilities..

I tend to think a big issue though is that sexual shame goes VERY deep in our culture, a lot of people who might not think of themselves as being bound up in it because their not overtly religious still actually are which leads to very conflicted views.

I would say though that terms like "objectification" and "male gaze" really have been degraded into basically "sex I don't like" from a position of power.
 
I dont understand your post at all!

You save time by rubbing one out and going about your life as oppose to wasting time with what you mentioned, an ugly girl with no body and slug personality as you put it...

Porn is fine f you do not over do it. You get to rub one out and with the expelling of your sexual tension, you become more relaxed, more lucid and you get to be more logical with your thoughts. You also can focus on articulation of your own conversational skills and not be sex obsessed all day.

Human nature revolves around blame game.

Porn is destroying society,

Don`t watch the Simpsons, its bad for you

Video games are making kids violent

Internet is ruining peoples lives


I have heard this before to be honest with you. It just feels like a matter of accountability and self control.
What don't you understand about the post?
It's pretty straight forward.

I don't think porn is an issue for most guys, but I could see how it would affect someone watching stuff they'll never experience more because it would fuck your expectations up.

My expectations are fucked up from smashing lot's of attractive women in real life. Thing is, attractive women are attainable for a guy like myself, so the only time my expectations aren't met is when I'm being thirsty or desperate and lowering my standards.

The point of my post was that the disappointing unattractive women I've used just to get a nut are forever for about half of all men, yet said men are still regularly rubbing one out to the same babes I do.
They never get to actually bang chicks like the ones they jerk off to. There's no way that doesn't have a bit of an effect in the bedroom for some guys, particularly older guys. I mean, imagine rubbing one out to some big booty hard body 20 something, but you're married to a 55 year old woman.
 
Lol, I post the info and you freak out and claim theirs no science to back up proven facts. Then you find a "sexologist" quack to disprove actual science. What's driving your need to live in some delusion?
Made a lot of money commercial fishing and
I ski raced Tahoe and lived with a lot of beautiful rich women starting in high school.
Women haven't been a problem, dropping porn improved everything on every level.
I'm just sharing the science, you can do whatever you want with the info. Just do your thing, no here gives a shit.
You are dealing with addicts who are at the end game. Broken beyond repair. We can try to have them see reason, provide actual science, facts backed with years of Intense research, but they will go to extraordinary lengths to justify the addiction. The excuses, the exceptions, the bending of morals, twisting of facts, warped realities.. all classic symptoms of addiction.

the biggest hack any addiction has is making you believe it is not a problem.

try to leave it alone for a year.. that will be impossible for the addict.
 
I think really though in this case "addiction" tends to mean "unable to achieve complete abstinence" which is demanded by religion or some new age bro woo someone adheres to.

I'm not sure what really damaging addiction to pornography would entail, wanking a dozen times a day until you nob hurts a lot? spending vast amounts on it? even the latter I suspect really what they entails is when people fall for a certain porn star romantically, not really an addiction to wanking to it but a desire for an emotional connection.

The truth is wanking a few times a week is not really damaging physical/mentally, its not the equivalent of getting blind drunk several times a week or shooting up on smack or indeed of being obese due to over eating, its more something that people make into an issue by their desire to avoid it.
 
What about jav chicks getting banged by a tentacle monster? Good to go right?
Grey area.
Takes me longer to get off watching porn when sexing my woman

wouldn’t it also be creating cucks of women?

the whole thing seems stupid, but I’m not a beta cuck concerned with my or other peoples porn habits :eek:
Alpha/Beta dynamic was imposed upon humans by gynocentric Christian scientists to whom Alpha boils down to being the best servant for the female needs and, like I mentioned before - in nature - female needs are irrelevant to an intrasexual selection species. Alpha/Beta is not an applicable dynamic for humans, it's quackery.
Hopefully they choose porn that is consenting and self-governing providers avoiding any form of exploitative measures.
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Sure.
 
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Obesity and Diabetes are a big cause of ED and I bet that's much more the issue than porn. From 2001 to 2017 people under the age of 20 with diabetes increased by 45%. We already know obesity is insane in this country.
You don’t see the how porn i
I think really though in this case "addiction" tends to mean "unable to achieve complete abstinence" which is demanded by religion or some new age bro woo someone adheres to.

I'm not sure what really damaging addiction to pornography would entail, wanking a dozen times a day until you nob hurts a lot? spending vast amounts on it? even the latter I suspect really what they entails is when people fall for a certain porn star romantically, not really an addiction to wanking to it but a desire for an emotional connection.

The truth is wanking a few times a week is not really damaging physical/mentally, its not the equivalent of getting blind drunk several times a week or shooting up on smack or indeed of being obese due to over eating, its more something that people make into an issue by their desire to avoid it.
Respectfully, you are trying to minimize the harmful effects of porn by invoking more tragic events like shootings.

Porn usage is a silent but incredibly addictive activity, you can say “once in a while”, “it’s not that bad” etc

Online porn is incredibly fun to use, and for a while, you will not see the effects. Just like smoking, a cigarette a day seems innocent and Harmless until it is harmful.
 
Respectfully, you are trying to minimize the harmful effects of porn by invoking more tragic events like shootings.

Porn usage is a silent but incredibly addictive activity, you can say “once in a while”, “it’s not that bad” etc

Online porn is incredibly fun to use, and for a while, you will not see the effects. Just like smoking, a cigarette a day seems innocent and Harmless until it is harmful.

What shootings? I was talking about heroin use which is highly physically addictive and potentially deadly.

I'm mentioning other more genuine addictions were there is a clear negative associated with it to call it so, with people masturbating the real issue tends much more to be that there addicted to religion or some other group that demands abstinence and the reality that there not able to achieve this state causes them distress.

The real giveaway is that "porn addiction" is talked up vastly more in the US than it is in Europe, thats not because people are using it less but rather because theres a much stronger religious abstinence culture in the US.
 
Porn usage is a silent but incredibly addictive activity, you can say “once in a while”, “it’s not that bad” etc

Online porn is incredibly fun to use, and for a while, you will not see the effects. Just like smoking, a cigarette a day seems innocent and Harmless until it is harmful.

I just don't see how it's addictive at all. Once you jerk off and finish that's it there's nothing else to do. It's like when you bang a chick you don't really want to be around. After you fuck that's it you just want her to leave.
 
What shootings? I was talking about heroin use which is highly physically addictive and potentially deadly.

I'm mentioning other more genuine addictions were there is a clear negative associated with it to call it so, with people masturbating the real issue tends much more to be that there addicted to religion or some other group that demands abstinence and the reality that there not able to achieve this state causes them distress.

The real giveaway is that "porn addiction" is talked up vastly more in the US than it is in Europe, thats not because people are using it less but rather because theres a much stronger religious abstinence culture in the US.

The science has nothing to do with religion. I am not sure if chose to, or chose not to watch the videos that were linked above, but these very intelligent people have studied this issue intensively and have found hard evidence that show he dangers of porn.

I think what is not apparent (and this the insidious danger of porn ) is how it quietly does damage, and how it is incredibly addictive.
Unlike Heroine, or other hard substances where the effects have clear physical manifestations, porn addiction is almost invisible.

I am not sure why they don’t talk about it as much in the EU but being quiet about it doesn’t mean it is any less dangerous.

here is another quick read:
https://conquerseries.com/5-ways-pornography-will-ruin-life
 
I just don't see how it's addictive at all. Once you jerk off and finish that's it there's nothing else to do. It's like when you bang a chick you don't really want to be around. After you fuck that's it you just want her to leave.
Try to stop watching porn for a month. Report back how “easy” it was.

it’s so easy to say “I can quit anytime, therefore I’m not addicted” but the reality is porn is pound for pound up there with the most addictive substances. Exceedingly hard to quit.
 
While I'm late to the party on this post, I have significant concerns about the ubiquity of pornography, it's normalization and its potential impact.

I want to preface this by saying there is nothing inherently wrong with pornography (between consenting adults) - it has existed in one form or another for centuries, and arousal in response to visual stimuli is a biological trait. However, I think something has fundamentally shifted over the past 10-15 years where the barrier to access (both as a viewer and as a performer) has been completely removed - high speed internet and video sharing platforms has essentially allowed for on demand access to pornography - in every fetish/genre imaginable. The proliferation of cell phones and other media consumption devices has also resulted in pornography being available on the go, and accessible to pretty much anyone and anytime.

I have a niece and two nephews who are pre-teens, and they all own cell phones and tablets. While I don't know if they have watched porn (I don't want to know), it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I saw a study recently that found that young people are first exposed to pornography at an average age of 10, and regular users by 14.

This "on demand" exposure and access has given rise to things like pornography addiction, largely because you can indulge at almost any time - it boggles my mind when I hear about how many people are accessing porn sites at work, while driving, on public transit etc. It is no longer something you do in hiding when no one is home, and as a result, you have people who become almost desensitized to it, as it becomes part of their daily routine. The taboo associated with watching porn has also pretty much disappeared - I have buddies that will share videos with one another, or talk about their favorite stars openly. This doesn't happen to everyone, but there are a significant number of people who watch pornography daily, requiring increasingly graphic/extreme content to satiate their sexual desires. This shouldn't come as a surprise, as scientific research has conclusively demonstrated that the pleasure centers in the brain stimulated by pornography, are the same ones stimulated through drug use.

I view pornography much like alcohol - in moderation it can be fine, with no ill effects. However, if it becomes an addiction, the fallout is also analogous to what happens when you are an alcoholic - strained relationships, psychological and physiological dependency, disruption in your quality of life etc. If you are avoiding real life relationships and intimacy in favor of pornography, I think that is unhealthy and a sign that something needs to change. If you suffer from sexual dysfunction and can only become aroused by pornography, that is also a sign that something needs to change.

There is also a part of me that is concerned about how sex is depicted in pornography (some, not all). Real intimacy is fundamentally different than what is often portrayed in porn - there is a thin line between having fun and being abusive/degrading. This issue is more difficult to gauge - I have been with partners who genuinely enjoy being rough or being restrained, but I have also been with woman who feel like they are pretending to be into it, because that is what they think I want. I don't know if I am articulating this clearly, but I have concerns about people (both men and woman) who think that sex depicted in pornography is what real world sex is supposed to be. As a result, they feel compelled to do the things they see in porn, even if they may not be into it. Given how many young people are first exposed to sex through pornography, I worry about this happening to them. Sex is supposed to be fun, not pressure you into doing the things you think your partner enjoys.

Alot of my attitudes towards porn changed after watching a documentary featuring Bella Donna and hearing about just how much performers hated doing it, the prevalence of STDs (even with regular testing) and how girls relied on drugs to make it through scenes. That killed it for me - while I still watch porn on a very rare occasion (once every couple of months), it is accompanied by a guilt thinking that the people in it didn't really want to.
 
Try to stop watching porn for a month. Report back how “easy” it was.

it’s so easy to say “I can quit anytime, therefore I’m not addicted” but the reality is porn is pound for pound up there with the most addictive substances. Exceedingly hard to quit.

When you say porn does that include self made porn as well? Cause I have a bunch of videos of me with other chicks. Does that count as well?
 
The science has nothing to do with religion. I am not sure if chose to, or chose not to watch the videos that were linked above, but these very intelligent people have studied this issue intensively and have found hard evidence that show he dangers of porn.

I think what is not apparent (and this the insidious danger of porn ) is how it quietly does damage, and how it is incredibly addictive.
Unlike Heroine, or other hard substances where the effects have clear physical manifestations, porn addiction is almost invisible.

I am not sure why they don’t talk about it as much in the EU but being quiet about it doesn’t mean it is any less dangerous.

here is another quick read:
https://conquerseries.com/5-ways-pornography-will-ruin-life

Thanks for providing a good example of exactly what I was saying, a load of pseudo scientific guff from a religious group hawking product.
 
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