You ever had real potential at sports or artistic endeavors?

[mozfonky]

Well he wasn’t my buddy it a well known agent of the business industry I happened to luck out and was at my biker bar with my art work bc someone wanted to see it then someone else saw who knew Gigers agent it called him up and he arrived within the hour …..I basically told him to F off without telling him I wouldn’t do that ..lol

I got his point but didn’t listen the thing is my art has a lot of vocabulary and he wanted to get rid of it , if you saw my art you’d get it . The words are necessary at least at that time . He said it brings value down bc it borderlines cartooning but I feel I’d have an entirely different style no one has . .


In the end Gigers agent friend who invited him stole one of my pieces for whatever reason and promised to give it back fjr a month until he ultimately disappeared I guess some ppl might have a fetish for killer Birthday cakes high on meth chopping every one up with a little butter knife bc that’s what he took . . Lol

weird. took the cake huh?

Advice is a funny thing, truth is, sometimes we should listen and sometimes we shouldn't. My bro is in the hospital, i've told him a million times to stop smoking and lose weight, it took weeks bedridden before he finally is getting the point. That's a case where someone should have listened, but most of the time, when people wanted some control or influence, it wasn't for my good, it was for theirs.

One more thing, at a certain point, you should be able to tell within a few minutes whether a relationship is gonna work or not. Not the years I see people bitching about. I've been called crazy, insulted, or told i'm not good enough but i could be if i just took that one particular thing they had to offer. Other people may not have always liked how I went about things but I find that putting the screws to people early on will tell you everything you need to know about whether to spend your time and money or not with some person. The very odd thing, very odd, is those same people who shit on me almost always came around later and tried to get me into their bullshit when they saw I had something to offer. It's just like several women who rejected me and then made excuses like, "oh, my brother was dying" or "i thought you were kidding" when I asked them out and they got weird.

Ya, the guy that called me crazy last time we talked asked me to come by last I saw him, what's the point? that's always just been weird as hell to me. Another thing, there are a lot of broken, hurt people out there and one thing I know is that they cannot take you any further than they got and if it looks like you have a chance to, they will do what they can to stop you, gaslight you, do things behind your back, whatever. Some extremely talented people I've known are like that because someone got to them at some point and squashed their dreams. The other thing is, authority figures only try to make you a carbon copy of themselves, not your best self. Those are the things I've learned.

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

Ting dangerous fam yuh nuh even know weh dem dutty foot gyaldem punpun deh roam

Stay safe mi bredda Jah bless

bro that’s not how a Jamaican would react. 800% more disgust

“I would nevah!!!! Do such a ting “

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

very true, tech killed music. Part of it is because it's so cheap and plentiful today, no one respects something that's free. I also think the young have way more things than we did to be interested in. I don't think the young have much interest in the entire mythmaking, adoration, hero creating that previous generations did.

Exactly. And to keep it a buck.. my beats improved alongside the tech improving. Like by last year all the best drums were pretty much available. Best samples were available through email lists..

My shit sounded a lot different back when the only kits were like stock 808 sounds and stock boom bap with like 12 snares

 

[Flower2dPeople]

very true, tech killed music. Part of it is because it's so cheap and plentiful today, no one respects something that's free. I also think the young have way more things than we did to be interested in. I don't think the young have much interest in the entire mythmaking, adoration, hero creating that previous generations did.

I disagree. Tech made making music more accessible. I was fortunate enough to have parents who bought me a drum kit and an electric guitar. Kids these days can start with all the knowledge available on the internet and cheaper instruments.

 

[mozfonky]

I disagree. Tech made making music more accessible. I was fortunate enough to have parents who bought me a drum kit and an electric guitar. Kids these days can start with all the knowledge available on the internet and cheaper instruments.

so accessible anyone can and does put out their junk that no one listens to.

 

[Sycho Sid]

The only things I sucked more at than sports was music and art.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

so accessible anyone can and does put out their junk that no one listens to.

Inevitable but it also makes it easier for people with potential to make music. It's just harder for labels to promote music because the business model is now about touring. You probably never discovered music on your own back in the day. Suits told you who to listen to back then.

 

[boingyman]

Photography. I have the skills and abilities, but I have no interest to do it professionally. Before kids though I did a decent amount of freelancing. From shooting weddings, portraits and events to doing real estate and selling stock photos on Getty Images. Doing it for money killed the art for me though and I just don't have the business drive or personality. Probably because I'm more introverted and once my first kid was born I just didn't have the time or energy, but I've definitely made way more money then what I've spent on equipment.

 

[-Magua-]

Golf. I was pretty good in high school. I liked football more, but my talents as a slot receiver & running back were marginal & I basically sat behind all state classmate. He went on to play d2 college ball, after sitting on depth chart at Mizzou.
I played a year of d2 college golf. I gave that up after my freshman year.

I still play today, with a 6 handicap, & while I enjoy the sport, I'm more driven to run & lift.
Is a skill/hobby I maintain, but not it's not a necessity to overall life, like working out & other stuff that keeps me physically/spiritually healthy. I don't follow the sport much at all.

 

[mozfonky]

Inevitable but it also makes it easier for people with potential to make music. It's just harder for labels to promote music because the business model is now about touring. You probably never discovered music on your own back in the day. Suits told you who to listen to back then.

no one told me who to like, I listened and made up my own mind, most of the music then wasn't very good either. Sure there may have been some folks making great stuff somewhere and couldn't get through to the masses. Talent is all over the place, always has been. And yes, the gatekeepers are vile and evil and destructive to a lot of talent but they also didn't let any dipshit with the stupid idea of being a rockstar get very far.

right now, there is just a surplus of everything for a lot of reasons, music has been developed in the classical, jazz and pop and rock and soul worlds to the point where there isn't very much room for fresh stuff. Also, what is the criteria we are talking about when we talk about "good music" everyone differs with that, some folks like jazz or rap or rock, some folks can't stand phenomenal intrumental bands with no song structure, either way, it's all over the place.

The one huge irony that's never lost on me is when i see virtuoso jazz or rock musicians who had all the private lessons and guidance in the world, there are a million of them, but the irony of it is that those people and that class of people were not where the music was from, who it spoke to and for. Huge irony. I see it all the time. Even still, these young, rich kids won't do anything with all that talent, they can't, there's too much of it everywhere else, it's just been a fun hobby for them.

 

[mozfonky]

speaking of gatekeepers, today I was watching some interviews about Hulk Hogan from his contemporaries, some who hated his guts because he was the chosen one and at least Jesse Ventura thinks that Hogan could have helped them all unionize for the betterment of them all. That's another little dynamic, when someone does make it, they'll kick any one down behind them. Lots of dirty, ugly games out there. I know it all sounds paranoid, but all this shit goes on, plus a lot of other shit, casting couches, etc.., theft, trickery, and in my life, I think the big players the "suits" are actually just a shined up version of a pimp and they play for stakes a lot higher than a street pimp. Never could handle those guys.

 

[mozfonky]

Photography. I have the skills and abilities, but I have no interest to do it professionally. Before kids though I did a decent amount of freelancing. From shooting weddings, portraits and events to doing real estate and selling stock photos on Getty Images. Doing it for money killed the art for me though and I just don't have the business drive or personality. Probably because I'm more introverted and once my first kid was born I just didn't have the time or energy, but I've definitely made way more money then what I've spent on equipment.

i know what you mean about "killed the art" pedagogy and structure and money all ruin things for me.

As far as weddings, I was going to be a videographer at one time, someone told me that weddings were the worst thing in the world due to the stress involved. was that true for you?

 

[boingyman]

i know what you mean about "killed the art" pedagogy and structure and money all ruin things for me.

As far as weddings, I was going to be a videographer at one time, someone told me that weddings were the worst thing in the world due to the stress involved. was that true for you?

It depends on who you're dealing with, expectations, venue, etc. Weddings are typically long and sometimes unpredictable. You are in many situations where you have one shot at capturing key moments. This is why often times second shooters are used. Being a second shooter is way less stressful because all you do is take photos, give your memory cards to the main photographer and you're done. Whereas a primary shooter has to go home, cull through 1000s and 1000s of photos, create a storyboard, order prints, piece together and order photobooks, etc. Personally I've had a lot of fun doing weddings because I really enjoy taking candid photos and storytelling, but it's also exhausting. The money can be really good though if you charge well. I personally rather second shoot, ideally mostly candid stuff. Maybe a few creative poses here and there. I've done a handful of second shooting, but wish I established myself and did it more because it was easy money without the stress. One guy paid me $500 for 7ish hours to second shoot. I was surprised because I wasn't some well known second shooter, but he trusted me based on some of my past work.

 

[NoSmilez]

I once scored 4 touchdowns in one game

 

[mozfonky]

It depends on who you're dealing with, expectations, venue, etc. Weddings are typically long and sometimes unpredictable. You are in many situations where you have one shot at capturing key moments. This is why often times second shooters are used. Being a second shooter is way less stressful because all you do is take photos, give your memory cards to the main photographer and you're done. Whereas a primary shooter has to go home, cull through 1000s and 1000s of photos, create a storyboard, order prints, piece together and order photobooks, etc. Personally I've had a lot of fun doing weddings because I really enjoy taking candid photos and storytelling, but it's also exhausting. The money can be really good though if you charge well. I personally rather second shoot, ideally mostly candid stuff. Maybe a few creative poses here and there. I've done a handful of second shooting, but wish I established myself and did it more because it was easy money without the stress. One guy paid me $500 for 7ish hours to second shoot. I was surprised because I wasn't some well known second shooter, but he trusted me based on some of my past work.

Thanks, sounds about like what i heard. People being people it has to come with issues.

 

[Natural Order]

At the end of the day, none of that bs matters.

You'll quickly realize it's all about how good of a fisherman you can be.

 

[Natural Order]

Photography. I have the skills and abilities, but I have no interest to do it professionally. Before kids though I did a decent amount of freelancing. From shooting weddings, portraits and events to doing real estate and selling stock photos on Getty Images. Doing it for money killed the art for me though and I just don't have the business drive or personality. Probably because I'm more introverted and once my first kid was born I just didn't have the time or energy, but I've definitely made way more money then what I've spent on equipment.

Tough racket to make money in now, unless highly specialized or famous for some reason.

Been a hobbyist photographer most of my life, thankfully never had any urge for doing weddings lol

 

[mozfonky]

Tough racket to make money in now, unless highly specialized or famous for some reason.

Been a hobbyist photographer most of my life, thankfully never had any urge for doing weddings lol

Really is

 

[ezikel315]

Athletics no, which is a shame because I was always more interested in athletics than arts but I found quickly I have no talent in sports. When I boxed my style was based on sheer grit and using strength to muscle guys into the ropes. I wasn't fast or hit hard though. I might've done better in a grappling sport due to my body type but I still think my lack of speed and general athleticism would've held me back from competing at higher levels. I do however seem to gain strength and muscle relatively easily. I think I could've done well at powerlifting. After I quit boxing, I got obsessed with increasing my strength and got pretty damn jacked. Not that it means much but out of anybody I know, I was the most jacked and strongest person I knew outside of people who are competitive bodybuilders/lifters. One guy I know was stronger than me but he was also in the Army special forces.

I looked up local powerlifting meets and found out the numbers weren't that high. One guy 2 weight classes bigger than me benched the same as me and his squat and DL numbers weren't that much better than mine. This was after only a year of focusing on lifting and I was still going out and getting hammered on the weekends so if I really dialed in my training, I could've done well at a local level.

None of that matters now because I'm too told and injured to train that seriously at anything anymore and I also don't care. I could've I spent more time practicing an artistic skill, which I possibly had a real talent for according to several teachers I had, but I got more interested in sports and school/work that I never fully explored that side of me. Luckily, writing/drawing/playing music isn't as hard as playing sports when you get older.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

I took to grappling real well, I got my blue belt in 4 months and was dedicated for close to a year. Then life happened. I use roll in and out of gyms from time to time and hold my own with purple belts after years of not training.

There was some hole in the wall gyms id cruise into in remote towns and towel guys up and leave after 1 or 2 sessions.

Basically partying and dumb shit took out my 20s and working away from home through my 30s coupled with my inability to see something through with my mind jumping to new hobbies and strechs of laziness killed it for me.

I was about to get back into it a couple of years ago but destroyed my knee in a bike accident so that's life.


I was also a state champion in discus multiple times as a Jnr. Basically I was lazy and lacked commitment when things got hard