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Does highlight the problem I always had with the Jedi in the prequels, they were too mundane, too woven into bureaucracy of government, I imagined them as much more separate from it, more working behind the scenes, maybe getting involved directly in the Clone Wars a bit but not working as basically the FBI/Police for the Republic.

Yoda specifically I imaged had always lived on Degobah, or at least had done so for a very long time, an ideal location for training Jedi being free of distractions and very strong with the force being so "alive", your classic hermit master teacher.

The same character just doesnt fit into the prequels nearly so well, most obviously as mentioned because the films call for him to not actually be very "wise" at all. I think if Lucas wanted to have the Jedi in the role he should have made them rather more flawed, more arrogant and someone like Yoda would have been more of an outsider maybe sticking to the "old ways" before they became too bound up with corrupt government.

Turned out, the Jedi order was a branch of the corrupt government.
Maybe not corrupt per se, but stagnant for way too long and rotting from within.
Remember that before the events of ep.1 only Ki Adi Mundi have seen a sith with his own eyes, of all the Jedi counsil.

You guys are on point. A lot of us are having fun with this discussion, which is perfectly fine as this is the Mayberry, but there are some legitimate concerns and criticisms to the way Yoda, Mace and the rest of the Jedi Order handled their affairs.

In Episode 3, Anakin is asked to sit on the council, but not given the title of Master, not made an official member. Outside of the meeting, Obi Wan asks him privately to spy on Palpatine. The whole thing makes Obi Wan quite uncomfortable but it doesn't change the fact that the council is secretly carrying out a black op.

How many more black ops has the council secretly sponsored?

I haven't read it but I believe a Vader comic came out some time ago and they touch on this subject- something about the council imprisoning people who dissented from the council, without due process.

The council was far from being 100% lawful good.
 
Meh his fight with Palpatine was pretty mutual at the end. Palps even noted Yoda was much more powerful than he’d originally thought. In fact Palpatine feared Windu for many years prior to making his move because he believed Windu was more powerful until Mace laughed at the idea of him being above Yoda when Palpatine casually mentions it

Palpatine was the real MVP.
 
Bra. He legit defeated Vader, the craziest villain in history x2. He sliced Darth Maul in half. He turned Grievous into scrap metal. He died on his terms pretty much. Obi Wan was a boss!!
Vader kicked his ass, beat him until his only choice was to quit and disappear again, in front of his new butt buddy Luke. He tried to beat baby Vader but he didn't even finish that. He quit on that too. Didn't Dart Maul live and become a spider baby or something? And he stood there and watched as his mentor got a double ended dildo shoved up his arse. I don't know about Grievous, he was shit anyway
 
Prime, Healthy, Motivated, Full Training Camp Sideous with That Look in his eyes makes young Skywalker tap to strikes. Then shows Leia what a real Lightsabre feels like. 😈


Then he wakes up and realizes it was all a dream. Poor Palpatine


In all seriousness I know Val isn’t necessarily cannon yet but a brawl between he and Sideous would end entire worlds. I think he’s the only Sith Lord Sid studied and gave props to
 
Then he wakes up and realizes it was all a dream. Poor Palpatine


In all seriousness I know Val isn’t necessarily cannon yet but a brawl between he and Sideous would end entire worlds. I think he’s the only Sith Lord Sid studied and gave props to

Palp had Luke on the ropes and only lost because of Vader's Heel-Face Turn.
 
Did Yoda have faults? Yes he did. Who doesn't?

It matters not. Wise and gallant Yoda was.



 
Vader kicked his ass, beat him until his only choice was to quit and disappear again, in front of his new butt buddy Luke. He tried to beat baby Vader but he didn't even finish that. He quit on that too. Didn't Dart Maul live and become a spider baby or something? And he stood there and watched as his mentor got a double ended dildo shoved up his arse. I don't know about Grievous, he was shit anyway
When did Vader kick his ass???

Obi Wan made him a quadrapalegic burn victim and then went on to whoop his ass again after sidious turned him into intergalactic robocop. What alternate universe movie and show did you watch?

When he decided to ghost out, he did it so he could continue teaching luke from ghostjediville. He probably would have beaten vader for a 3rd time if he wanted to but why embarrass buckethead any further.
 
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