Yan vs. O' Malley - A Balanced Take

Guy LeDouche said:
It’s easy to let the dislike for O’Malley cloud any judgment for any of his fights. The kid is very easy to hate.
however let’s be real here. O’Malleys best win is Raulian Paiva. The only two fights he’s had against legit competition he failed miserably.

Yan is the former champion and has ran through most of his comp except the current BW champ.
Their resumes speak for itself.
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Totally right man, how dare I.
 
maximus__ said:
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The punch that O"malley reckons he landed happened in the first and was to the wrong side. Munhoz fought and won the round.
O'malley poked him in the eye as Pedro was coming in to close distance. O'malley was losing at range to the shortest reach in the top 10 and he knows it.
That's why he took a fight with a guy like Yan before he loses to the lower ranked guys and gets booted out of the rankings permanently.
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So true man, you're right.
 
maximus__ said:
https://ok.ru/video/4032434014735?fromTime=213
You know what happened straight after that punch? O'malley landed a groin shot. That was his most significant strike of the fight...
Who cares about a punch 3 mins earlier when it was an illegal eye poke that stopped the fight. O'malley fouled him once in each round, lost the first round and then has the nerve to come out and talk shit about him after being down a round.
Full fight is out there. Munhoz started to pressure and O'malley didn't like it. Fingers straight into the eye.
https://boxingvideo.org/sean-omalley-vs-pedro-munhoz-full-fight-replay/
O'malley with those whopping 7 head strikes each round in a fight he was losing...They even credit all of Sean's glancing shots but discredit anything Munhoz throws.
From memory they even score the nut shot as a sig strike.

O'malley was the one who took the easy way out. He put his fingers into Pedro's eyes because he didn't like the pressure that was coming at him.
He was out struck(at distance) by a guy he had 5 inches of reach on, who then started to pressure forward once he had the timing. O'malley panicked, fouled him and then proceeded to talk shit about him.

I wonder what his excuse will be when he gets KO'd this time.
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Yeah man, I wonder what excuse he will come out with now.
 
chimpoehurricane said:
Ultimate can crusher. Fought Vera, stubbed his toe, went unconscious defending gnp with his chin, and when he came back to consciousness, he put on a Stirling like Oscar performance. Yan by tough of death.
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Yeah man, what a total shit fighter lol.
 
krelianx said:
Dislike for O'Malley colors people's perception a little too much, so I'm going to try to just cover the obvious points.

O'Malley's clear advantages in these fight are his range, height, and striking accuracy. He is a very coordinated striker who works best at tip range, who throws great combinations from different angles at great speed, can throw from his back foot, and who uses a lot of feints and mixups extremely well. He tends to fare better against less mobile targets who are at a clear speed and range disadvantage, like Moutinho, where he can style off and chain combinations or use his speed advantage to land counters. In his last fight, Pedro adopted a mobile strategy, to move in and out of range, avoiding the boxing exchanges, and poking with leg kicks that while mostly checked also added up. O'Malley had trouble finding his range, even if he did manage to land a few good punches, including one that shut Pedro's left eye. Upon rewatching I thought he won that round. He is exceptionally good at chaining strikes and finding the counter punches, and avoiding head strikes.

Yan is even faster, has better movement, and a much more polished striking game, not to mention speed, than Pedro. He works at his best moving in and out with fast short combinations. Nothing particularly fancy, just tenacious, fast, and precise. He has a big reach disadvantage, but he moves in and out very well, and tends to find his range and pick it up as the fight moves forward. He will probably move laterally a lot and frustrate O'Malley, who will have to try to find his range against a much more mobile target than ever before. While O'Malley generally has a speed advantage, against Yan this might not be the case. Propensity for injury might be a factor, but it's impossible to factor in such things. Neither fighter seems to opt for wrestling offensive, though both have good takedown and submission defense.

The thing with O'Malley is that he is in love with the idea of becoming a KO artist like Conor or Anderson, while he should grow into a more dynamic MMA fighter like DJ or GSP, who could change gears mid fight if something was not working. His BJJ is actually surprisingly good, but he rarely has alternative gameplans and always seems to prefer to strike. He needs to get his ego in check, and realize styling off with strikes won't always be available as he fights the higher level competition moving forward, if he wants to be consistent.

I think this is a difficult fight to call; far more than people are making it out to be, though obviously it is an enormous step up in competition for Sean. I'm going to go out on a limb and say O'Malley shocks the world.
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Cant believe I picked against Yan but I did. Also picked Charles but thats beside the point, O'Malley a flashy fighter beat an extremely sound fighter.

People can say what they want but O'Malley won rnd 1&3.
 
krelianx said:
Yeah man, I wonder what excuse he will come out with now.
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It's one of the biggest robberies in modern day MMA. There is no argument for Yan to lose the first round. He outlanded O'malley 28-23, landed the bigger shots AND picked him up and slammed him before having 1 min of control time and ground and pound. He barely won one round of the fight.
 
maximus__ said:
It's one of the biggest robberies in modern day MMA. There is no argument for Yan to lose the first round. He outlanded O'malley 28-23, landed the bigger shots AND picked him up and slammed him before having 1 min of control time and ground and pound. He barely won one round of the fight.
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You said he would get KOd and people would come up with excuses.

So what happened?
 
krelianx said:
Welcome! Find yourself at home. We have cookies, coffee, and a show.
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Thank you good sir!

It's just mind boggling how dumb people are.. "he has tattoos in his face and colorful hair, i would never hire him, he must suck at his job"..

Being dumb is like being dead, it only hurts for others..

That said i predicted yan being a little bit to technical and a little bit to tough.. i expected o'malley coming out of a loss looking really good..
 
krelianx said:
You said he would get KOd and people would come up with excuses.

So what happened?
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I was wrong. O'malley did well, but lost the fight clearly. Instead of getting a good showing from O'malley against a top guy, we got one of the biggest robberies in modern MMA. Yan landed more shots, the bigger shots and a slam takedown with 1 min of control time and somehow still lost the 1st round of the fight.
The argument is there that Yan also won the third with the UFC stats being way off with all bar 6 of O'malleys strikes being deemed as a sig strike when they clearly weren't.
We all watched the fight and O'malley did not land 96% of his total strikes as significant strikes in that fight. It's impossible statistically.

It's active corruption.
 
maximus__ said:
I was wrong. O'malley did well, but lost the fight clearly. Instead of getting a good showing from O'malley against a top guy, we got one of the biggest robberies in modern MMA. Yan landed more shots, the bigger shots and a slam takedown with 1 min of control time and somehow still lost the 1st round of the fight.
The argument is there that Yan also won the third with the UFC stats being way off with all bar 6 of O'malleys strikes being deemed as a sig strike when they clearly weren't.
We all watched the fight and O'malley did not land 96% of his total strikes as significant strikes in that fight. It's impossible statistically.

It's active corruption.
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I also thought Yan won. I always claimed it was close to call and my entire argument was that it was a difficult, competitive fight, and picked O'Malley tentatively.

You didn't just claim Yan would win, which would have been, as I said from the beginning, the most reasonable take, though I picked Sean.You claimed Yan was going to blow him out of the water and that Sean was incapable of competing against top competition.

Regardless of who we think won the fight (Yan) you were claiming to even think this was a competitive, difficult fight to call was unreasonable. And here we are. Fight that went to a split decision, but which was undoubtedly very competitive and close. And that was my take.

Yes, you were wrong.
 
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