Y'all really have no clue who Eddie Alvarez is do you?

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Hardkore said:
Anyone who was posting that tripe is an idiot. Losses are eventual in MMA, sometimes you're the hammer sometimes the nail. The ire that most of Eddie's critics feel towards him was not that he lost, but the way he fought leading up to his defeat. I'm still a fan, but I think even Eddie would admit he fought stupidly that night.
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He fought the only way he could have fought against Conor. Eddie just isn't the guy a lot of people made him out to be in their minds.
 
Shabutie said:
I didn't care who he was tbh.

I'm not even a mctapper fan, but that performance was awful and he should probably retire.

He offered nothing in that mctapper fight.
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I bet you cried watching your saviour Eddie Sanchez getting crushed by McGregor.
 
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The Natural Born Runner said:
Never once have I claimed that they are "all newbies" - but to deny that the vast majority of them are newbies, is just idiotic.

Conor McGregor sells out arenas where ticket prices swell to double the price, he sells millions of PPVs, the guy clearly has attracted an audience that was not here previously. Conor has only been in the limelight for approximately 3 years, so yeah, if you've only been watching the sport for 3 years, then yeah, you're a fucking newbie.

You can bang on with whatever idea or angle you want - but the fact is anyone in their right mind would not pick a one-dimensional striker over one of the best MMA fighters to ever live (Jose Aldo) and nobody in their right mind would pick Conor McGregor over someone like Dustin Poirier at the time either, the resumes were absolutely night and day - one was fighting world class fighters and the other was beating people like Marcus Brimage.

You have to understand that Conor's ascension is a shock, none of this was truly expected. The guy is a one dimensional, counter-striker, who already has had some knee reconstruction. You have to understand that predicting that fighter A will beat fighter B, when you've never even seen fighter B is just ludicrous.
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So much fail in one post idk where to start.

Resumes and MMA math dont tell much of the story bro. How do u not get that?

There are people who could watch Conors, fights before Dustin, watch dustins fights before conor, and make a prediction based on the skillset of both fighters, not their "past wins".

Conors come up obviously wasnt as much of a shock to everyone as it was to you, some people realized what he was capable of and were spot on, how you hatin on that? Lol.

Is it really that hard to believe that some people really did trust and believe he would beat Dustin , Aldo and Alvarez based on their analysis of the fighters? Why cant you accept that? Why do they have to be "not in their right mind" when they were RIGHT?
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" i was wrong but the people that were right are still dumb because they shouldnt have predicted the right outcome " thats basically how you sound, lol.

Embarrassing
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Bellator went above and beyond trying to keep Eddie from signing with UFC, shows how valuable he is as a fighter. Always wondered how he'd fare against a prime/motivated BJ.
 
Sad to see people defend NBR. He cant handle the emotional feeling of being wrong on a mma forum and basically insults everyone. Im neutral on Conor. I've praised him and bashed him. If you are a wrestle/brawler there is a high chance you are getting koed by Connie. Also Alvarez has good wrestling but people were hyping him up like he was some 10 time olympic gold medalist who would only flinch at Conor and he would go down.
 
GrewUpSlapBoxin said:
So much fail in one post idk where to start.

Resumes and MMA math dont tell much of the story bro. How do u not get that?

There are people who could watch Conors, fights before Dustin, watch dustins fights before conor, and make a prediction based on the skillset of both fighters, not their "past wins".

Conors come up obviously wasnt as much of a shock to everyone as it was to you, some people realized what he was capable of and were spot on, how you hatin on that? Lol.

Is it really that hard to believe that some people really did trust and believe he would beat Dustin , Aldo and Alvarez based on their analysis of the fighters? Why cant you accept that? Why do they have to be "not in their right mind" when they were RIGHT?
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" i was wrong but the people that were right are still dumb because they shouldnt have predicted the right outcome " thats basically how you sound, lol.

Embarrassing
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You just don't understand the premise at all.

There are 2 layers to this post. 1.) I'm predicting Alvarez will win 2.) I cannot understand how people are so cock-sure that Conor wins with ease, when they don't even know Eddie.

I've totally admitted and ate crow for months about getting the prediction wrong, cool, no problem there.

On the other hand, I cannot understand how so many people banter this thread when the main premise still stands true. It's like those who hate Fedor, and always called him a can crusher - imagine those guys predicting Werdum would beat him, without even knowing who Fabricio is. Then Fabricio gets the choke and the W, and then all those bozo's come out and start shouting "see I told you! He's all hype".

You cannot predict fights when you don't know the second party within the fight. If you luck out and Conor wins, then great, you look like a genius now. Reality is, 90% of his fans are just blind, homosexual fanboys.

Analyse the fights and stop sucking dick is my message to those.
 
The Natural Born Runner said:
You can bang on with whatever idea or angle you want - but the fact is anyone in their right mind would not pick a one-dimensional striker over one of the best MMA fighters to ever live (Jose Aldo) and nobody in their right mind would pick Conor McGregor over someone like Dustin Poirier at the time either, the resumes were absolutely night and day - one was fighting world class fighters and the other was beating people like Marcus Brimage.

You have to understand that Conor's ascension is a shock, none of this was truly expected. The guy is a one dimensional, counter-striker, who already has had some knee reconstruction. You have to understand that predicting that fighter A will beat fighter B, when you've never even seen fighter B is just ludicrous.
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By 'no one' you mean, you?

Perhaps because people like you who have never trained and/or have an incredibly weak eye when it comes to reading technique and differentiating/recognizing skill rely on looking at 'resumes' or MMAth to make your predictions.

Everyone knew as soon as Conor bursted onto the scene that he was an incredibly dynamic, different striker who came at you with angles that many of the flat footed, basic featherweights would have an extremely hard time with.

You continue to downplay what Conor has done and how good he is by continuing to call him 'one dimensional' even though the most recent incarnation of him as shown to have elite takedown defense and the best striking in MMA. He also is a long-time BJJ brown belt who is not very far behind if at all from getting his black belt.

Again, you will use naked analysis by saying things like 'Eddie isn't an elite wrestler!' or perhaps showing a gif or bringing up Diaz submitting him, although for your sake I really hope you don't resort to that as you would be hammering my point home.

You continue to rag on some Conor fans on here by calling them 'casuals' or 'newbies' and you're using that to summarize McGregor's rise/talents as a whole despite failing to realize that many experts and those who have an eye for technique were extremely high on Conor dating back to when he won his second Cage Warriors belt.

Perhaps it's YOU who needs to take a look in the mirror and accept the fact that you have been wrong on your assessment of Conor McGregor and it is YOU who is painfully ignorant to not just the technique he posseses but to MMA technique as a whole.
 
The Natural Born Runner said:
You just don't understand the premise at all.

There are 2 layers to this post. 1.) I'm predicting Alvarez will win 2.) I cannot understand how people are so cock-sure that Conor wins with ease, when they don't even know Eddie.

I've totally admitted and ate crow for months about getting the prediction wrong, cool, no problem there.

On the other hand, I cannot understand how so many people banter this thread when the main premise still stands true. It's like those who hate Fedor, and always called him a can crusher - imagine those guys predicting Werdum would beat him, without even knowing who Fabricio is. Then Fabricio gets the choke and the W, and then all those bozo's come out and start shouting "see I told you! He's all hype".

You cannot predict fights when you don't know the second party within the fight. If you luck out and Conor wins, then great, you look like a genius now. Reality is, 90% of his fans are just blind, homosexual fanboys.

Analyse the fights and stop sucking dick is my message to those.
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You can if you knew both. If you truly looked at performances and skillsets both Eddie and Conor had prior to the fight, you had to know Conor dominating Alvarez on the feet was very likely if Eddie couldn't secure the takedown or got rocked early. Are people who saw the outcome of, "Conor will destroy Eddie on the feet." before the fight absurd? Perhaps some. If you knew both fighters well, anyone could see this as a likely result.
 
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Jin Akutsu said:
You can if you knew both. If you truly looked at performances and skillsets both Eddie and Conor had prior to the fight, you had know Conor dominating Alvarez on the feet was very likely if Eddie couldn't secure the takedown or got rocked early. Are people who saw the outcome of, "Conor will destroy Eddie on the feet." before the fight absurd? Perhaps some. If you knew both fighters well, anyone could see this as a likely result.
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Yeah, exactly my point.

If you know both fighters, then of course, knock yourself out, make a prediction!

But, if you only know Conor, then I don't want to hear any ludicrous "Conor KO within 1 round" predictions. You're an idiot, you don't know the second party and therefore cannot make a prediction.

Simples.
 
The Natural Born Runner said:
Yeah, exactly my point.

If you know both fighters, then of course, knock yourself out, make a prediction!

But, if you only know Conor, then I don't want to hear any ludicrous "Conor KO within 1 round" predictions. You're an idiot, you don't know the second party and therefore cannot make a prediction.

Simples.
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Right on.

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GrewUpSlapBoxin said:
So much fail in one post idk where to start.

Resumes and MMA math dont tell much of the story bro. How do u not get that?

There are people who could watch Conors, fights before Dustin, watch dustins fights before conor, and make a prediction based on the skillset of both fighters, not their "past wins".

Conors come up obviously wasnt as much of a shock to everyone as it was to you, some people realized what he was capable of and were spot on, how you hatin on that? Lol.

Is it really that hard to believe that some people really did trust and believe he would beat Dustin , Aldo and Alvarez based on their analysis of the fighters? Why cant you accept that? Why do they have to be "not in their right mind" when they were RIGHT?
{<huh}

" i was wrong but the people that were right are still dumb because they shouldnt have predicted the right outcome " thats basically how you sound, lol.

Embarrassing
<{shaqs}>
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I was a huge fan of Alvarez and was ecstatic when he beat RDA.

Even then I knew Conor would beat him. Doesn't mean that Alvarez isn't good. He's just tailor made for McGregor. Alvarez eats too many punches and I knew he couldn't take so many of McGregor's.

Not taking anything away from Conor either.

Blind haters are just plain annoying. They either say Conor was lucky or that whoever he beat wasn't that good. Anything to discredit the guy.

I can stand blind fanatics because at least they are supporting someone.

Alvarez is a good win.
 
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