Yair's management messed up, bad.

[Fahrenheit1221]

Disappointing read. I think you're giving BJ Penn too much credit.

 

[Huligani]

 

[WinZip]

Before this fight, only the more hardcore fans of the sport knew Yair Rodriguez's name.

After this fight, everyone knows his name.

Love him, hate him, whatever. You know his name. You know he embarrassed a legend. You know he better get a top fight next.

How in the fuck can you possibly even pretend to make the argument that this was a bad career move?

If you were my manager and you turned down an offer for me to fight BJ Penn, I would fight you instead. Except it wouldn't be an MMA fight, it would be me hitting you with a tire iron.

 

[punkmother]

He should have cut a heel promo and say that he took BJ's soul and that he's the new Prodigy and start using the nickname. These guys are blowing it.

he should have cut bj up and gone full lord of flies on him (like bj did with joe daddy blood licking and all) prior to cutting that promo.

 

[Source]

You need some pussy in your life, breh.

This should be the first response in everything where TS takes any of this too seriously.

 

[tarumady]

Read...Don't read. I don't give a fuck. But, I'm heading the douchebags off at the pass, this time.

If I was in control of Yair's career. I NEVER would have allowed him to take that fight. It was a lose/lose situation. Losing the fight of course, would have been bad. Winning it the way he did, may have been even worse.

Look in the PBP thread, and related subsequent threads.

A young fighter that most ppl seemed to be quite neutral about, before the fight. Is now a hated fighter. His transgression ??? He beat the piss out of the beloved BJ Penn.

The polls, and threads leading up to the fight, pretty much said it all. Penn huggers are over the fucking top, and always have been. Alot of them believed he would actually win that fight. That's not fucking reasonable.

Kind of reminds me of GSP vs Penn, and the re-match.

Leading up to the re-match, there was more focus put on that fight than any other in UFC history, to that point. Remember the Primetime series was created specifically for that fight. " To the death, Georges "... Do you remember all that ? Yet, the text poll during the broadcast showed IIRC. That about 2/3, or 66% of the people that voted, thought Penn was going to beat GSP. Which meant he would have held the LW, and WW titles at the same time.

So, GSP beat the living fuck out of Penn. In doing so, he became what is/was likely the most hated fighter in UFC history...Until Ronda, and Conor slithered out from wherever they came from ( He is/was of course, one of the most loved fighters in UFC history, too ).

The first fight was 2006. The re-match in 2009.

8...Yeah, that's right...EIGHT YEARS later. It is almost impossible to go a single day on these boards without Penn's huggers hating on GSP. And not just hating... But lying their fucking asses off, to do it. They try to downplay his accomplishments. He was the face of the UFC for more years than Ronda, and Conor combined. He beat EVERY fighter he faced. And dominated almost every single one of them. But, he's not the GOAT, and deserves to be hated because...

He didn't finish fights.
He ducked Silva.
He juiced.
He greased.
He fought safe ( The dumb fucks actually mean smart ).
He was boring.
He's Canadian.
He retired while still the champ.
He lost to Hendricks...

Etc, etc, etc.

Penn huggers have lied so many times, that they probably believe their own shit. The casual noobs of the last few years, have read, and heard this bullshit so many times. That they believe the lies, and calumny are ACTUAL FACT.

I've read numerous posts already, about Yair. Many of them heading down that same fucking road. It's not really that GSP, and Yair beat the beloved Penn. But, they embarrassed the living fuck out of him. And since alot of Penn's huggers predicted easy wins for Penn in the re-match, and the fight with Yair...

THEY were made to look stupid. And that is probably the biggest reason for the obsessive hate.

I NEVER would have suggested, or allowed Yair to take that fight, if I had a say in it. Because no matter what he does for the rest of his career. He's a marked, and hated man. He was ranked 10th before the fight. Penn huggers already want him to fight the top 2, or 3 guys... So they can beat the fuck out of him. Yeah...That sounds reasonable.

The hate ( I hope ) for Yair, will likely be tempered by the fact that Penn is well past his prime. He didn't belong in that octagon with Yair. And some of Penn's huggers get that. And I respect them for that. Whereas GSP beat the living fuck out of THE PRODIGY...IN HIS PRIME. But, no matter what...Alot of Penn's delusional fans will hate Yair for the rest of his career.

It's a damn shame. Because it wasn't personal...It's Yair's job. And he did it very well. He doesn't deserve to be hated. At least, not for that. And he will NEVER be nearly as popular, or well liked as he likely could have been, if he hadn't fought Penn.

Damn you have some time on ya hands

 

[haplo]

They fucked up big time. Anyone who beats BJ is cursed. Frankie failed again to get the gold. Rory is at Bellator. Nick got suspended. GSP semi-retired and can't get no fights. I fear greatly for this young phenom.

 

[LikeItIs]

Fuck me, you couldn't be more wrong...

The cloud of ignorance grows thicker every day around here.

 

[Cpl. Cam]

Better to be hated than ignored in this biz.

 

[politozx7r]

Read...Don't read. I don't give a fuck. But, I'm heading the douchebags off at the pass, this time.

If I was in control of Yair's career. I NEVER would have allowed him to take that fight. It was a lose/lose situation. Losing the fight of course, would have been bad. Winning it the way he did, may have been even worse.

Look in the PBP thread, and related subsequent threads.

A young fighter that most ppl seemed to be quite neutral about, before the fight. Is now a hated fighter. His transgression ??? He beat the piss out of the beloved BJ Penn.

The polls, and threads leading up to the fight, pretty much said it all. Penn huggers are over the fucking top, and always have been. Alot of them believed he would actually win that fight. That's not fucking reasonable.

Kind of reminds me of GSP vs Penn, and the re-match.

Leading up to the re-match, there was more focus put on that fight than any other in UFC history, to that point. Remember the Primetime series was created specifically for that fight. " To the death, Georges "... Do you remember all that ? Yet, the text poll during the broadcast showed IIRC. That about 2/3, or 66% of the people that voted, thought Penn was going to beat GSP. Which meant he would have held the LW, and WW titles at the same time.

So, GSP beat the living fuck out of Penn. In doing so, he became what is/was likely the most hated fighter in UFC history...Until Ronda, and Conor slithered out from wherever they came from ( He is/was of course, one of the most loved fighters in UFC history, too ).

The first fight was 2006. The re-match in 2009.

8...Yeah, that's right...EIGHT YEARS later. It is almost impossible to go a single day on these boards without Penn's huggers hating on GSP. And not just hating... But lying their fucking asses off, to do it. They try to downplay his accomplishments. He was the face of the UFC for more years than Ronda, and Conor combined. He beat EVERY fighter he faced. And dominated almost every single one of them. But, he's not the GOAT, and deserves to be hated because...

He didn't finish fights.
He ducked Silva.
He juiced.
He greased.
He fought safe ( The dumb fucks actually mean smart ).
He was boring.
He's Canadian.
He retired while still the champ.
He lost to Hendricks...

Etc, etc, etc.

Penn huggers have lied so many times, that they probably believe their own shit. The casual noobs of the last few years, have read, and heard this bullshit so many times. That they believe the lies, and calumny are ACTUAL FACT.

I've read numerous posts already, about Yair. Many of them heading down that same fucking road. It's not really that GSP, and Yair beat the beloved Penn. But, they embarrassed the living fuck out of him. And since alot of Penn's huggers predicted easy wins for Penn in the re-match, and the fight with Yair...

THEY were made to look stupid. And that is probably the biggest reason for the obsessive hate.

I NEVER would have suggested, or allowed Yair to take that fight, if I had a say in it. Because no matter what he does for the rest of his career. He's a marked, and hated man. He was ranked 10th before the fight. Penn huggers already want him to fight the top 2, or 3 guys... So they can beat the fuck out of him. Yeah...That sounds reasonable.

The hate ( I hope ) for Yair, will likely be tempered by the fact that Penn is well past his prime. He didn't belong in that octagon with Yair. And some of Penn's huggers get that. And I respect them for that. Whereas GSP beat the living fuck out of THE PRODIGY...IN HIS PRIME. But, no matter what...Alot of Penn's delusional fans will hate Yair for the rest of his career.

It's a damn shame. Because it wasn't personal...It's Yair's job. And he did it very well. He doesn't deserve to be hated. At least, not for that. And he will NEVER be nearly as popular, or well liked as he likely could have been, if he hadn't fought Penn.

Great move for him

The fighter that made the mistake was penn...
how does penn think he can just jump back in with a great fighter like that and win ?
The talent has passed bj a long time ago. If he wants to fight he should fight guys ranked 20plus and work his way back up or stay down there and have some fun