International WTF is going on in China?

[Zazen]

I think we have to be honest

In the US, we've had a growing and tremendous wave of anti-intellectualism for some time.

Its distinctly anti-intellectual, anti-science and anti-academia. Almost to a fevered level.


To make it worse our current political party has embolden and promoted anti-intellectualism and anti- education

Trump administration to take steps to defund Education Department​

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-advisers-weigh-plan-dismantle-department-education-wsj-reports-2025-02-03/

And now we're getting rid of the one truly big advantage we had over China and that is immigration. If we keep badmouthing immigrants and scaring them off eventually they'll choose not to come here. China has major demographic problems and despite their progress in the tech field there's a chance that they may never pass us in terms of GDP output. Countries like Japan , South Korea, and China face a lot of the same problems with their declining population. Without immigrants USA would probably be facing the same crisis. I really hope the new administration understands this.

 

[Hdfi]

And now we're getting rid of the one truly big advantage we had over China and that is immigration. If we keep badmouthing immigrants and scaring them off eventually they'll choose not to come here. China has major demographic problems and despite their progress in the tech field there's a chance that they may never pass us in terms of GDP output. Countries like Japan , South Korea, and China face a lot of the same problems with their declining population. Without immigrants USA would probably be facing the same crisis. I really hope the new administration understands this.

The US has worse demographic problems. Not only is your population older on average but you are experiencing ethnic replacement of whites that will result in a majority-minority structure. History shows us that this type of situation is very volatile and dangerous.

 

[Zazen]

The US has worse demographic problems. Not only is your population older on average but you are experiencing ethnic replacement of whites that will result in a majority-minority structure. History shows us that this type of situation is very volatile and dangerous.

I disagree with this. USA is not the same as other nations. Most people that aren't white are still American and identify as such culturally. They speak the same language, celebrate the same holidays, share the same interests, etc. You have more in common with a black American than a white German.

 

[BowserJr]

Last flailing for relevance. Their population is about to fall off a cliff and then they're fucked

 

[nostradumbass]

yeah the western poverty line where you have to pay $1700 a month to live somewhere.

mao inherited a feudalist hyper-capitalist system where might meant right and life was morose for almost everyone in the country. he increased life expectancies by 32 years, increased literacy rates from 20% to 70%+, and increased industrial output by 11%+ year over year for multiple decades with full ownership over means of production for workers. additionally, in the years since, the continual effort of the CCP to put workers first brought the 80% of the population in poverty (after mao's death where previously the number was a good amount better) to a 9% number as of 2011. the number of americans under the poverty line as of 2023 is 11%.

Serve the People: The Eradication of Extreme Poverty in China

This study looks into the process through which China was able to eradicate extreme poverty as a fundamental step in constructing socialism.

thetricontinental.org

National Poverty in America Awareness Month: January 2025

The Current Population Survey Annual Social and Economic Supplement reports the official poverty rate in 2023 was 11.1%, not statistically different from 2022.

www.census.gov

yeah if you believe everything abject retards who wanna steal your money tell you about china, it probably sounds pretty bad.

Yeesh, doesn't sound like you have any idea what you're talking about. China's huge poverty decrease happened after mao died and they had enough sense to start opening up private owenership. It was 70/30 publicly owned, and has inverted to 70/30 privately owned because the publicly owned stagnated while the privately owned continued to grow, which lifted people out of the poverty they were in while Hannibal Lecter was running the country and killing their people. They now have more billionaires than the US.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Yeesh, doesn't sound like you have any idea what you're talking about. China's huge poverty decrease happened after mao died and they had enough sense to start opening up private owenership. It was 70/30 publicly owned, and has inverted to 70/30 privately owned because the publicly owned stagnated while the privately owned continued to grow, which lifted people out of the poverty they were in while Hannibal Lecter was running the country and killing their people. They now have more billionaires than the US.

and what were the numbers before mao's revolution? lol mao's policies made lifespans and literacy rates skyrocket, and vastly improved the level of poverty in china. yes, the decision to switch from state communism to mostly-state-capitalism has proven fruitful in trade, but raising the value of the yuan and the cost of living (the two biggest factors of that graph) doesn't inherently mean what the graph suggests.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

And now we're getting rid of the one truly big advantage we had over China and that is immigration. If we keep badmouthing immigrants and scaring them off eventually they'll choose not to come here. China has major demographic problems and despite their progress in the tech field there's a chance that they may never pass us in terms of GDP output.

their GDP is growing twice as fast as the US's. 2.5% to 5.2%. i suppose "there's a chance" but not with trump starting a trade war with the rest of NA and leaving a massive trade vacuum to be filled.