Social WR Lounge v247: I ain't no sexy boy. I don't dance, son.

[BEER]

I've got stuff to do later and some cleaning to take care of when I am off work

I'll just smoke some meth

Good call. It'll last longer.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Sounds like an effort to scapegoat Cruz and blame Trump on him and hoping everyone forgets the roles of Steve Bannon and through him, the Mercer family. By the way, did you know it was a Mercer that started Parler? I didn't until just the other day.

Lots of interesting stuff about Robert and Rebekah in The Man Who Solved the Market.

 

[Falsedawn]

@Falsedawn

Me and my little nephew were binging Insider Hotspot on Youtube.

I was right about that Satan shit in hip hop. It's not just a comic book persona for those kids.

That Yungeenace dude is an absolute gangster. Literally a child soldier. Shot eight times, lost his brother, doing home invasions, selling ar-15's. Completely unrepentant.

That Who-I-Smoke song, I thought was about weed. It isn't it's about people (hook is catchy asf tho). They literally talk about trying to kill this dude named Foolio, who himself is a unrepentant killer of his own people. As soon as he heard the song he and is gang went over to Aces hood and graffit'd their signs and were giving out money to children telling them to say "kick youngeeen's ass!" on camera. It's the most horrible kind of soap opera.

It really makes you want to do something, but what? Most misinformed well-intentioned people try and go after the music, but that's a misunderstanding of the source of the issues. Like you said, they're rapping about shit they did. And that's where people like me sit. Rap is a reflection, not a projection. If we don't like what we see in the mirror, breaking the mirror isn't going to make the person looking go away.

But that's the hard discussion, for an infinite number of reasons. To the point that I've been bandying around "fight zones" where people can get their ass beat with no gunplay. Basically trying to propose solutions to the issue that don't involve people giving any effort, because they don't give a shit. Easier to lock someone up forever than fix the conditions that led them to hop off the porch in the first place.

 

[Islam Imamate]

@AgonyandIrony @Khabib Khanate @Possum Jenkins @kpt018 @PolishHeadlock2 Stumbled on what is still to this day the worst centrist liberal article I've ever read.

"My junior year of high school, 1974, I lost a lot of friends after I became a born-again, militant vegetarian. I wasn’t satisfied with the decision just to stop eating meat.

As new devotees tend to do, I had to convert the world to my cause. To set an example for others, I marched down the path of new-devotee one-upmanship: If you don’t eat meat, I argued, then you shouldn’t wear leather.

I learned that cheese hardens because of rennet, an enzyme scraped from the stomachs of slaughtered calves. Therefore, I had to go cheeseless.

The list of nonedibles and nonwearables only grew from there. I stopped swatting at mosquitoes feeding on my arm. I watched every step I took to ensure I didn’t step on ants. Hey, they’re animals, too!

This insanity went on for years — the unhappiest, loneliest and unhealthiest of my life. I mention this not to offend today’s “vegans” (a made-up word that didn’t exist back when I took up the cause).

I worry about anyone anywhere who embraces their One True Cause with such militant enthusiasm that they lose sight of the real world around them. Take, for example, the extremist animal-rights activists who blow up laboratories or anti-abortion activists who murder abortion doctors. They didn’t start out that way; their need to prove their devotion to The Cause led them down the extremist’s path.

The Cause can be anything — gun rights, veganism, progressivism, animal rights, religious extremism, birding, plane-spotting, you name it. True adherents can’t help but engage in a form of competition to prove that they are more devout, more holy, more pure than the rest.

The Democratic Party today is launching itself into exactly this kind of vicious cycle. Hordes of progressive extremists are running for president — all trying to out-progressive each other. It’s exhausting to watch, especially when you try to figure out where progressivism stops and socialism starts.

How long till someone seeks election as an avowed communist?

I will now invoke the image of the Taliban in Afghanistan, not because I equate that terrorist group with any of the aforementioned obsessions but rather to demonstrate the crazy extremes that devotional one-upmanship can lead to.

Afghans cautiously welcomed the Taliban’s rise to power in the late 1990s out of desperation for someone to bring peace and order to their war-splintered country. Once in power, Taliban rulers started to restrict unaccompanied women’s movements on the street. Then girls were banned from attending school. Then they banned music and kite-flying. The Fun Police had arrived.

Things eventually got so crazy that Taliban street enforcers began conducting random checks to verify whether men were properly grooming their pubic hair in accordance with their Islamist rules. (The check was accomplished by pushing the barrel of an AK-47 down a man’s pants, then twisting it. The gun sights would wind around any ungroomed hair, inflicting significant pain on men who hadn’t adequately trimmed.)

No matter the cause, once it becomes a test of true devotion, the result is extremist one-upmanship. History is rife with examples of the disasters that follow.

The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia morphed into a fanatical cause of sharing and equal distribution at the point of a gun. Communist revolutionaries in the late 1930s took up arms in Spain against Fascist dictator Francisco Franco. Inspired young communists from around the world, including hundreds of Americans who joined the Lincoln Brigade, flocked to Spain to volunteer for the revolutionary cause.

They were slaughtered on the front lines. And the ones who sent them to the slaughter? Their fellow communists — in many cases because the volunteers dared to complain selfishly about a lack of training, food, blankets or proper armaments.

In Venezuela, socialist leader Nicolas Maduro is doing the equivalent, sending his people to the slow slaughter of starvation in retaliation for their lack of devotion to the disastrous Bolivarian Revolution that he and his predecessor, Hugo Chavez, inflicted on their nation.

American progressives can’t seem to stop talking about Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and her revolutionary agenda to fix America by imposing a wealth tax on the rich and launching a Green New Deal. She now threatens to organize primary challenges to any congressional Democrats who dare to embrace bipartisanship. This is how it starts.

The Tea Party movement experienced the same mission creep until it imploded and its followers flocked to Donald Trump’s camp. We all know how that’s working out.

Sen. Doug Jones, the Alabama Democrat who overcame incredible odds to win the Senate seat previously held by Jeff Sessions, is begging his party to stop feeding its most extremist elements. If Democrats want to win in 2020, they need to focus on the “radical middle,” he says.

Take it from someone who lost way too many friends after going off the deep end: Unless they’re selling moderation, beware anyone trying to sell you on their One True Cause."

https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/co...cle_a49c65e2-0830-5173-a802-eaf006a07bc2.html

It's like the guy is purposefully trying to tick all the boxes for a mindless self-styled moderate. He aaaaaalmost achieves self awareness about his dumbshit ideology in the last sentence.

What a milquetoast take, feels like it could've been written by a college freshmen of middling intelligence. He invokes these various historical episodes but I doubt he really knows much beyond what the averaged college educated person knows and one wonders just how relevant they are to the point he's trying to make.

What, pray tell, was the moderate choice in late Tsarist Russia or Afghanistan in the civil war period? Where was the radical middle in those places? I don't expect that that author would have a good answer.

 

[Andy Capp]

Why would Boehner hope to run interference for Bannon?

Rather, I think it's attempting to downplay the much more important roles of Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and all the Senate "moderates" like Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio.

That's not the point I was making nor what I intended to suggest. I mentioned the Mercers because they're obviously still deeply into this new version of the Republican party while completely out of the news, but my main point is the targeting of Cruz rather than the exact reason they are making a scapegoat of him. I get that he is generally not well liked, but I didn't expect the powers that be to decide they needed to try to pin "Trumpism" on him. Even at that it's just an off the cuff preliminary conclusion based on no more than that one post.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

@AgonyandIrony @Khabib Khanate @Possum Jenkins @kpt018 @PolishHeadlock2 Stumbled on what is still to this day the worst centrist liberal article I've ever read.

"My junior year of high school, 1974, I lost a lot of friends after I became a born-again, militant vegetarian. I wasn’t satisfied with the decision just to stop eating meat.

As new devotees tend to do, I had to convert the world to my cause. To set an example for others, I marched down the path of new-devotee one-upmanship: If you don’t eat meat, I argued, then you shouldn’t wear leather.

I learned that cheese hardens because of rennet, an enzyme scraped from the stomachs of slaughtered calves. Therefore, I had to go cheeseless.

The list of nonedibles and nonwearables only grew from there. I stopped swatting at mosquitoes feeding on my arm. I watched every step I took to ensure I didn’t step on ants. Hey, they’re animals, too!

This insanity went on for years — the unhappiest, loneliest and unhealthiest of my life. I mention this not to offend today’s “vegans” (a made-up word that didn’t exist back when I took up the cause).

I worry about anyone anywhere who embraces their One True Cause with such militant enthusiasm that they lose sight of the real world around them. Take, for example, the extremist animal-rights activists who blow up laboratories or anti-abortion activists who murder abortion doctors. They didn’t start out that way; their need to prove their devotion to The Cause led them down the extremist’s path.

The Cause can be anything — gun rights, veganism, progressivism, animal rights, religious extremism, birding, plane-spotting, you name it. True adherents can’t help but engage in a form of competition to prove that they are more devout, more holy, more pure than the rest.

The Democratic Party today is launching itself into exactly this kind of vicious cycle. Hordes of progressive extremists are running for president — all trying to out-progressive each other. It’s exhausting to watch, especially when you try to figure out where progressivism stops and socialism starts.

How long till someone seeks election as an avowed communist?

I will now invoke the image of the Taliban in Afghanistan, not because I equate that terrorist group with any of the aforementioned obsessions but rather to demonstrate the crazy extremes that devotional one-upmanship can lead to.

Afghans cautiously welcomed the Taliban’s rise to power in the late 1990s out of desperation for someone to bring peace and order to their war-splintered country. Once in power, Taliban rulers started to restrict unaccompanied women’s movements on the street. Then girls were banned from attending school. Then they banned music and kite-flying. The Fun Police had arrived.

Things eventually got so crazy that Taliban street enforcers began conducting random checks to verify whether men were properly grooming their pubic hair in accordance with their Islamist rules. (The check was accomplished by pushing the barrel of an AK-47 down a man’s pants, then twisting it. The gun sights would wind around any ungroomed hair, inflicting significant pain on men who hadn’t adequately trimmed.)

No matter the cause, once it becomes a test of true devotion, the result is extremist one-upmanship. History is rife with examples of the disasters that follow.

The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia morphed into a fanatical cause of sharing and equal distribution at the point of a gun. Communist revolutionaries in the late 1930s took up arms in Spain against Fascist dictator Francisco Franco. Inspired young communists from around the world, including hundreds of Americans who joined the Lincoln Brigade, flocked to Spain to volunteer for the revolutionary cause.

They were slaughtered on the front lines. And the ones who sent them to the slaughter? Their fellow communists — in many cases because the volunteers dared to complain selfishly about a lack of training, food, blankets or proper armaments.

In Venezuela, socialist leader Nicolas Maduro is doing the equivalent, sending his people to the slow slaughter of starvation in retaliation for their lack of devotion to the disastrous Bolivarian Revolution that he and his predecessor, Hugo Chavez, inflicted on their nation.

American progressives can’t seem to stop talking about Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and her revolutionary agenda to fix America by imposing a wealth tax on the rich and launching a Green New Deal. She now threatens to organize primary challenges to any congressional Democrats who dare to embrace bipartisanship. This is how it starts.

The Tea Party movement experienced the same mission creep until it imploded and its followers flocked to Donald Trump’s camp. We all know how that’s working out.

Sen. Doug Jones, the Alabama Democrat who overcame incredible odds to win the Senate seat previously held by Jeff Sessions, is begging his party to stop feeding its most extremist elements. If Democrats want to win in 2020, they need to focus on the “radical middle,” he says.

Take it from someone who lost way too many friends after going off the deep end: Unless they’re selling moderation, beware anyone trying to sell you on their One True Cause."

https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/co...cle_a49c65e2-0830-5173-a802-eaf006a07bc2.html

It's like the guy is purposefully trying to tick all the boxes for a mindless self-styled moderate. He aaaaaalmost achieves self awareness about his dumbshit ideology in the last sentence.

And yet Joe Biden still won the primary and the general lol

The radical infrastructure bill is clealy Communism.....

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

That's an insult to Okada lol. Bobby could never pull off the Okada "Ten Health Bars Final Boss" entrance.

Damn, I want that outfit.

 

[Sycho Sid]

And yet Joe Biden still won the primary and the general lol

The radical infrastructure bill is clealy Communism.....

Pretty sure everything is communism.

 

[tonni]

I've got stuff to do later and some cleaning to take care of when I am off work

Sounds suspicious.

 

[tonni]

 

[Lord Coke]

This is hilarious. So the girl that said a poem at Biden's inauguration is black so the people who were translating it were asked to leave in Europe because they are white. Now its a woke Olympics and in one case

In Germany, “Den Huegel hinauf” was released on the same day as its American edition, but here the criticisms were more about the quality of the verse.

“It is, from a literary point of view, a fiasco,” deplored Austrian daily Der Standard.

The newspaper blamed the stylistic shortcomings on the fact the three-strong team of translators included two people — Hadija Haruna-Oelker, who is black, and Kubra Gumusay, of Turkish origin — “who are less active in the literary and journalistic domain than in feminist and anti-racist militancy.”

This is what happens when you don't hire the best person to do the job. This is funny now but imagine if this trickles down to the military which it already is or doctor or something like that.
European Publishers Agonize Over Profile of Amanda Gorman Translators
https://www.courthousenews.com/euro...0v9ehyhLIqsXn89njOfH0qC8Z5vxAaZ1AOwQm5eg1h1hw

PARIS (AFP) — Poet Amanda Gorman made her name with a call for unity within the United States, but the job of translating her work in Europe has sparked divisive debate.

“To put our future first, we must first put our differences aside,” the 23-year-old recited in her now-iconic performance at Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration in January.

But in Europe, it has been hard to ignore people’s differences when it comes to translating that poem, “The Hill We Climb.”

The furor was kickstarted in the Netherlands when activist-journalist Janice Deul said it was “incomprehensible” that a person with white skin, poet Marieke Lucas Rijneveld, had been chosen for the job.

Rijneveld, “shocked” at the uproar, quit the project, and publishing house Meulenhoff apologized, saying it had “missed an enormous opportunity to give a young black woman a podium.”

However, this went down very badly with Gorman’s Spanish translator, Nuria Barrios, who said Deul’s victory was “catastrophic.”

“It’s the victory of identitarian discourse over creative freedom,” she wrote in the daily El Pais on March 11.

As temperatures rose on Spanish Twitter, Gorman’s Catalan publishers Univers took a second look at their own choice of translator, Victor Obiols, concluded he was not even the right gender, and sacked him.

“They told me that I am not suitable to translate it,” he told AFP. “They did not question my abilities, but they were looking for a different profile, which had to be a woman, young, activist and preferably black.”

‘A fiasco’

In Germany, “Den Huegel hinauf” was released on the same day as its American edition, but here the criticisms were more about the quality of the verse.

“It is, from a literary point of view, a fiasco,” deplored Austrian daily Der Standard.

The newspaper blamed the stylistic shortcomings on the fact the three-strong team of translators included two people — Hadija Haruna-Oelker, who is black, and Kubra Gumusay, of Turkish origin — “who are less active in the literary and journalistic domain than in feminist and anti-racist militancy.”

In Italy, publishers Garzanti secured the services of a young translator, Francesca Spinelli, with the apparent approval of Gorman.

Spinelli dismissed the Dutch controversy that might have engulfed her as well, describing it as “an inflammatory and slightly confused debate in which everyone had their say, often without talking about the same thing,” according to the magazine Il Libraio.

It is perhaps Hungary’s Open Books Publisher that has come up with the most innovative approach, using members of the minority Roma community in order to keep the essential spirit of Gorman’s poem rather than simply importing America’s racial politics. The project has yet to be completed.

There have been fewer problems in France, where publisher Fayard made a charismatic choice in singer Marie-Pierra Kakoma, who goes by the stage-name Lous and the Yakuza, in her first translating role.

Sweden has also opted for a singer, though this time a man: Jason Diakite, stage-name Timbuktu. The son of American parents, his selection has not elicited any notable upset. He says the poem felt “very familiar” to him due to its wealth of rhymes, which he said were a lot like rap.

Outside Europe, few translations are planned for the moment.

In Brazil they have found a black woman for the job: journalist-poet Stephanie Borges.

“It’s a debate of extreme importance,” Talitha Perisse, of publisher Intrinseca, told AFP. “We hope it will continue so as to really bring greater representation in the literary world.”

 

[Jack V Savage]

Today's going to be a good day. I created my first thread in a while. The predicted ineffectual venting of spleens by the usual cadre of right-wing moronigentsia is in full swing with nary a supporting source to be had among them.

I'm taking bets on how many pages it goes before anyone sources supporting evidence besides me.

I think it goes to the difference between professing belief as a symbolic act (I'm a Republican, I'm not a sheeple who believes the official story, I hate China more than you) and belief in the liberal sense.

 

[Gregolian]

It really makes you want to do something, but what? Most misinformed well-intentioned people try and go after the music, but that's a misunderstanding of the source of the issues. Like you said, they're rapping about shit they did. And that's where people like me sit. Rap is a reflection, not a projection. If we don't like what we see in the mirror, breaking the mirror isn't going to make the person looking go away.

But that's the hard discussion, for an infinite number of reasons. To the point that I've been bandying around "fight zones" where people can get their ass beat with no gunplay. Basically trying to propose solutions to the issue that don't involve people giving any effort, because they don't give a shit. Easier to lock someone up forever than fix the conditions that led them to hop off the porch in the first place.

WA state has a mutual combat law. You can call the local PD (which some may not like) to basically act as a ref to make sure one guy doesn't go too far in the fight.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I think it goes to the difference between professing belief as a symbolic act (I'm a Republican, I'm not a sheeple who believes the official story, I hate China more than you) and belief in the liberal sense.

Anecdotely I was at my neices birthday party and a couple of my sisters inlaws are hardcore Trumpers. I don't usually talk politics with them but we do discuss peripheral things and they brought up that they were impressed with Biden on China.

Probably the only thing they like but it was interesting to hear.

He gets this infrastructure deal through and he'll sail into a 2nd term easily and possibly with a couple of Senate pickups.

 

[Trotsky]

What a milquetoast take, feels like it could've been written by a college freshmen of middling intelligence. He invokes these various historical episodes but I doubt he really knows much beyond what the averaged college educated person knows and one wonders just how relevant they are to the point he's trying to make.

What, pray tell, was the moderate choice in late Tsarist Russia or Afghanistan in the civil war period? Where was the radical middle in those places? I don't expect that that author would have a good answer.

Worst, he's the editorial editor (manager?) for the biggest paper in St. Louis.

It's just hilarious how he describes the USSR as well. But the best is "where the socialism begins." He could have easily realized at that point that neither he nor the general public have a firm understanding of what socialism entails other than it being a very shameless political bookend on good policy when you can't argue against it on its merits.

 

[Gregolian]

 

[Islam Imamate]

 

[Jack V Savage]

What a milquetoast take, feels like it could've been written by a college freshmen of middling intelligence. He invokes these various historical episodes but I doubt he really knows much beyond what the averaged college educated person knows and one wonders just how relevant they are to the point he's trying to make.

What, pray tell, was the moderate choice in late Tsarist Russia or Afghanistan in the civil war period? Where was the radical middle in those places? I don't expect that that author would have a good answer.

The writing was not professional quality and the point was basic, but it is true that people get these collective obsessions, and that bad things tend to result from them.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

@AgonyandIrony @Khabib Khanate @Possum Jenkins @kpt018 @PolishHeadlock2 Stumbled on what is still to this day the worst centrist liberal article I've ever read.

"My junior year of high school, 1974, I lost a lot of friends after I became a born-again, militant vegetarian. I wasn’t satisfied with the decision just to stop eating meat.

As new devotees tend to do, I had to convert the world to my cause. To set an example for others, I marched down the path of new-devotee one-upmanship: If you don’t eat meat, I argued, then you shouldn’t wear leather.

I learned that cheese hardens because of rennet, an enzyme scraped from the stomachs of slaughtered calves. Therefore, I had to go cheeseless.

The list of nonedibles and nonwearables only grew from there. I stopped swatting at mosquitoes feeding on my arm. I watched every step I took to ensure I didn’t step on ants. Hey, they’re animals, too!

This insanity went on for years — the unhappiest, loneliest and unhealthiest of my life. I mention this not to offend today’s “vegans” (a made-up word that didn’t exist back when I took up the cause).

I worry about anyone anywhere who embraces their One True Cause with such militant enthusiasm that they lose sight of the real world around them. Take, for example, the extremist animal-rights activists who blow up laboratories or anti-abortion activists who murder abortion doctors. They didn’t start out that way; their need to prove their devotion to The Cause led them down the extremist’s path.

The Cause can be anything — gun rights, veganism, progressivism, animal rights, religious extremism, birding, plane-spotting, you name it. True adherents can’t help but engage in a form of competition to prove that they are more devout, more holy, more pure than the rest.

The Democratic Party today is launching itself into exactly this kind of vicious cycle. Hordes of progressive extremists are running for president — all trying to out-progressive each other. It’s exhausting to watch, especially when you try to figure out where progressivism stops and socialism starts.

How long till someone seeks election as an avowed communist?

I will now invoke the image of the Taliban in Afghanistan, not because I equate that terrorist group with any of the aforementioned obsessions but rather to demonstrate the crazy extremes that devotional one-upmanship can lead to.

Afghans cautiously welcomed the Taliban’s rise to power in the late 1990s out of desperation for someone to bring peace and order to their war-splintered country. Once in power, Taliban rulers started to restrict unaccompanied women’s movements on the street. Then girls were banned from attending school. Then they banned music and kite-flying. The Fun Police had arrived.

Things eventually got so crazy that Taliban street enforcers began conducting random checks to verify whether men were properly grooming their pubic hair in accordance with their Islamist rules. (The check was accomplished by pushing the barrel of an AK-47 down a man’s pants, then twisting it. The gun sights would wind around any ungroomed hair, inflicting significant pain on men who hadn’t adequately trimmed.)

No matter the cause, once it becomes a test of true devotion, the result is extremist one-upmanship. History is rife with examples of the disasters that follow.

The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia morphed into a fanatical cause of sharing and equal distribution at the point of a gun. Communist revolutionaries in the late 1930s took up arms in Spain against Fascist dictator Francisco Franco. Inspired young communists from around the world, including hundreds of Americans who joined the Lincoln Brigade, flocked to Spain to volunteer for the revolutionary cause.

They were slaughtered on the front lines. And the ones who sent them to the slaughter? Their fellow communists — in many cases because the volunteers dared to complain selfishly about a lack of training, food, blankets or proper armaments.

In Venezuela, socialist leader Nicolas Maduro is doing the equivalent, sending his people to the slow slaughter of starvation in retaliation for their lack of devotion to the disastrous Bolivarian Revolution that he and his predecessor, Hugo Chavez, inflicted on their nation.

American progressives can’t seem to stop talking about Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and her revolutionary agenda to fix America by imposing a wealth tax on the rich and launching a Green New Deal. She now threatens to organize primary challenges to any congressional Democrats who dare to embrace bipartisanship. This is how it starts.

The Tea Party movement experienced the same mission creep until it imploded and its followers flocked to Donald Trump’s camp. We all know how that’s working out.

Sen. Doug Jones, the Alabama Democrat who overcame incredible odds to win the Senate seat previously held by Jeff Sessions, is begging his party to stop feeding its most extremist elements. If Democrats want to win in 2020, they need to focus on the “radical middle,” he says.

Take it from someone who lost way too many friends after going off the deep end: Unless they’re selling moderation, beware anyone trying to sell you on their One True Cause."

https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/co...cle_a49c65e2-0830-5173-a802-eaf006a07bc2.html

It's like the guy is purposefully trying to tick all the boxes for a mindless self-styled moderate. He aaaaaalmost achieves self awareness about his dumbshit ideology in the last sentence.

Bullshit ass take of course.

But the part about AOC daring to primary Democrats that aren't cool with the Green New Deal is just a necessary feature the two-party system. When you only have two options, there HAVE to be coalitions and parts that don't fully see eye-to-eye.

For the entire 80s, 90s and early 2000s, the progressive wing of the Democrats had to suck it up and give in to the moderates. Now the tables are slightly (SLIGHTLY) turning. If the moderates don't like it, they should come up with ideas that are more appealing.

 

[Andy Capp]

This is hilarious. So the girl that said a poem at Biden's inauguration is black so the people who were translating it were asked to leave in Europe because they are white. Now its a woke Olympics and in one case

In Germany, “Den Huegel hinauf” was released on the same day as its American edition, but here the criticisms were more about the quality of the verse.

“It is, from a literary point of view, a fiasco,” deplored Austrian daily Der Standard.

The newspaper blamed the stylistic shortcomings on the fact the three-strong team of translators included two people — Hadija Haruna-Oelker, who is black, and Kubra Gumusay, of Turkish origin — “who are less active in the literary and journalistic domain than in feminist and anti-racist militancy.”

This is what happens when you don't hire the best person to do the job. This is funny now but imagine if this trickles down to the military which it already is or doctor or something like that.
European Publishers Agonize Over Profile of Amanda Gorman Translators
https://www.courthousenews.com/euro...0v9ehyhLIqsXn89njOfH0qC8Z5vxAaZ1AOwQm5eg1h1hw

Translation is all about how deeply familiar you are with the two languages and the full context of the writing you're translating, though in the case of poetry you need to have some poetic chops yourself also. It's that latter two elements that I think are likely to be the sources of concern no matter who is doing the translating.

That doesn't necessarily contradict your post--I certainly agree being black or not doesn't on its own qualify or disqualify you--but I confess I am not certain I understand this part: "people who were translating it were asked to leave in Europe because they are white. " Are you saying they were asked to drop out of the project for that reason only--not, for example, because others were found who might be better qualified?

Edit: I answered my own question from the above paragraph, to wit,

The furor was kickstarted in the Netherlands when activist-journalist Janice Deul said it was “incomprehensible” that a person with white skin, poet Marieke Lucas Rijneveld, had been chosen for the job.

Rijneveld, “shocked” at the uproar, quit the project, and publishing house Meulenhoff apologized, saying it had “missed an enormous opportunity to give a young black woman a podium.”

However, this went down very badly with Gorman’s Spanish translator, Nuria Barrios, who said Deul’s victory was “catastrophic.”

“It’s the victory of identitarian discourse over creative freedom,” she wrote in the daily El Pais on March 11.

So one dipshit whined online, some others cheered, and in response, the person chosen decided they didn't sign up for that shit and quit. Sad, but that's hardly the same as being forced out by the "woke" crowd. It just shows me people pay too much attention to internet loud mouths and you like to mislead.

On the other hand, I see nothing wrong with knowledgeable people criticizing the quality of the translation based particularly on the two factors I mention above but I suspect it would be very difficult to find someone who can actually translate such a work of art faithfully enough to escape criticism in any event.