wow.................. ben...

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I think Ben did that because it was such a habit for him and for a lot of wrestlers. That is they duck down and shoot when someone bull rushes them to get a perceived easy takedown, which is the trap that Jorge was talking about

A better way is just simply moving laterally or the Rousey V Zingango fight would be a good example of dealing with a running flying knee attack. I think a teep or a side kick could definitely work

mhm it could but again u gotta look at ben dudes so stiff lol like worse than jakeshields some guys just cant do certain things not everyone can kick but everyone can throw hands to an extent so ben needs t learn a solid jab to get in and keep someone out for just a momement his wrestlings so damn good that if he could just develop one other skill set hed be champ no doubt if he could mask his takedown and have the ability to stop forward pressure which comes by jabbing or kicking dont see ben developing a kick that good though but a jab is a simple movement but takes practice

also funny how today people acting like a flying knee is this insane ultimate technique that you have to completely get away from just cause it landed on ben lol if they were that amazing by themselves then wrestlers would never have beaten kick boxers especially the shootboxe guys

its catching a few wrestlers because they cant fathom someone would try that on them since most mma grapplers train to chase guys down cause 99% of mma guys try to run avoid a grapplers takedowns at all cost even refusing to play guard today lol thats the meta of mma currently

 

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adensaya and mas exposed wrestling ...

 

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good that if he could just develop one other skill set

Ben's BJJ is top tier too. In the welterweight UFC division only Maia would beat him under IBJJF no-gi rules.

 

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Ben's BJJ is top tier too. In the welterweight UFC division only Maia would beat him under IBJJF no-gi rules.

ehh not technique wise no hed win in ibjjf due to the takedown but id have to say gunner is much more technical than ben in pure bjj ben can just make things work for him due to knowing the basic game

and i was more talking about him acquiring a striking skill hes fine as far as grappling goes even though hes much more wrestling styled

 

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adensaya and mas exposed wrestling ...

lol how did adensaya ? he got takendown a few times and dude isnt really much of a wrestler for mma hes a striker

 

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If the head doesn't cross the center line, or is too far away from center line, the knee simply isn't there.

That's why McGregor, who tried the same thing vs Khabib, did not have it pay off, and got taken down.

Punching your way into a clinch works; changing levels into a head outside or sweep single and using their leg as a rope to pull them into a bodylock or double leg works.

 

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If the head doesn't cross the center line, or is too far away from center line, the knee simply isn't there.

That's why McGregor, who tried the same thing vs Khabib, did not have it pay off, and got taken down.

Punching your way into a clinch works; changing levels into a head outside or sweep single and using their leg as a rope to pull them into a bodylock or double leg works.

mhm i like to snatch the single to pull me into them to a body lock if they arnt very good at tdd then ill finish the single though

as singles are pretty hard t land on good guys i feel singles are actually the best takedown for guys at heavy weight and light heavy weight because bigger guys have wider stronger hips and sprawling works much better its hard for bigger guys to land doubles but they have less balance than guys under 205 so run the pipe is solid and dc has shown it and cain as well

i like gsps takedown method the best he rarely has to finish his shots cause he tries to blast the hips on a double or head outside single and they go down right away before grips can even be established to defend guys have insane tdd today so your gonna have to really fight to get a single even bodylock at times today

gsp didnt even have many finishes but he knew if he could go under punches had good timing he didnt have to be a technical finisher and saves lotssss of energy i think doubles work best as a counter to punches and kicks than singles anyways so it really works out best in learning how to counter wrestle

 

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gsp didnt even have many finishes but he knew if he could go under punches had good timing he didnt have to be a technical finisher and saves lotssss of energy i think doubles work best as a counter to punches and kicks than singles anyways so it really works out best in learning how to counter wrestle

Sometimes it really is that simple; you hit them, he moves to hit you back, you're drilling them with a counter level change.

 

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Sometimes it really is that simple; you hit them, he moves to hit you back, you're drilling them with a counter level change.

mhm id train mostly not trying t chase a guy down t take him down thats easy whats hard and scary is a guy throwing hard at you and you having to be smart and not panic reach out keeping hand sup very well and shooting under u gotta drill the hell out of it with guys in gym because if u do it on the flying a fight your gonna be scared making mistakes

idk why the hell wrestlers dont train to single/double guys who throw leg kicks ills ee great wrestlers at start of fight a kick boxers throwing leg kicks at them ad they just block them or jump back lol to me thats a gift anytime a guys on 1 leg for even a split second is a free takedown but timing is everything timing drills to react

wrestling like striking if eel you gotta do smallr eaction drills t get you fast at going in practicing as soon as guy throws a kick make sure you are in good and deep.......

 

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If the head doesn't cross the center line, or is too far away from center line, the knee simply isn't there.

That's why McGregor, who tried the same thing vs Khabib, did not have it pay off, and got taken down.

Punching your way into a clinch works; changing levels into a head outside or sweep single and using their leg as a rope to pull them into a bodylock or double leg works.

Khabib dad has an interview somewhere where talks about always shooting head outside, for that reason. He calls it step 1, or the first piece, or something similar

 

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Khabib dad has an interview somewhere where talks about always shooting head outside, for that reason. He calls it step 1, or the first piece, or something similar

tbh 90% of guys in last 5 years have been shooting head outside singles jake shields really coined it i think same with leg mount even though khabib got the credit for both lol

the only guy i notice who still does head inside singles is marty usman i use to shoot inside singles too but then you gotta deal with alot more defenses whizzers stuffing head ect hand fighting

i use to fear someone good going to my back or getting off on a good head arm choke but realized if ima good grappler i should be good enough to avoid getting caught

the 2 most used takedowns today that get guys down i notice are run the pipe from outside single and a body lock transition off a single