Would you like to see Bud Crawford fight in MMA / UFC?

[Takes Two To Tango]

Heavyweight is a tough division to compare to the lower weights.

Objectively it has half the roster depth, and we see a grossly lower quality of general athleticism. It would be completely impossible to shuffle in fat old farts with single skill sets at 145lbs, it simply could not happen. That happens all the time in the upper weight divisions.

Until the pay changes, suitably young gifted athletes the size of 205/265 are not entering MMA as a first option. We get leftovers.

It's not about weight classes, it's about learning the craft and Ngannou proved that despite the naysayers that said he would lose to Stipe easily in their second bout.

But Crawford is perhaps the best of his generation in boxing. And I'm sure he's not going into MMA and not be prepared. He's going to this MMA fight without a doubt highly prepared.

 

[loisestrad]

Did you watch Ngannou Stipe 1 & 2 and see how Ngannou got way better through proper training? It's not delusional, it's a highly plausible. With the right training Crawford can do wonders.

Ngannou defended 8 takedowns in the first fight and 1 in the second.

 

[Oscar Madison]

Let the Fist Fighters enter against grapplers and all around strikers, and defend the greater body.

MMA will evolve and be better off if more Top Talent from the fighting world enters the Cage.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Proper TDD is hard enough for people who have been training and fighting full time in MMA professionally

What makes you think Bud Crawford is going to pick it up in one training camp? Give me an example of another boxer doing the same and winning a top title in MMA? Can you? If it is so plausible surely it has happened before?

Ngannou is perfect example of someone who didn't know how to wrestle at all really. But he learned through training and he proved it in his second fight with Stipe.

There is obviously no example, because hardly / rarely any top championship boxer goes to MMA. Because they don't think it's worth
it. It doesn't mean they can't do it and succeed. Again Ngannou is perfect example of someone who is clueless with wrestling and he learned fast to prove that he can beat Stipe.

So this is going to be like going to the moon for the first time. It's a risk it's a calculated worth while risk. Crawford has nothing to lose. He's expected to lose, so even if he put a good fight in a loss, that's a win already.

 

[Davey Grant]

We've done this, it would be a disaster for crawford.

 

[USA!USA!]

Ngannou is perfect example of someone who didn't know how to wrestle at all really. But he learned through training and he proved it in his second fight with Stipe.

There is obviously no example, because hardly / rarely any top championship boxer goes to MMA. Because they don't think it's worth
it. It doesn't mean they can't do it and succeed. Again Ngannou is perfect example of someone who is clueless with wrestling and he learned fast to prove that he can beat Stipe.

So this is going to be like going to the moon for the first time. It's a risk it's a calculated worth while risk. Crawford has nothing to lose. He's expected to lose, so even if he put a good fight in a loss, that's a win already.

Ngannou was in the UFC for 6 years before he fought Stipe the 2nd time and 3 years before the first - do you think he didn't training wrestling before that? lol

I am honestly not trying to be mean and I apologize if it sounds rude but I just could not disagree any more on this.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Ngannou defended 8 takedowns in the first fight and 1 in the second.

Ok Ngannou is better than I thought in the first fight. It's been awhile.

But Ngannou would be like Crawford and be learning the craft and getting better. It's not an impossibility that most think it is. I think you guys are just scared some elite boxer can come in and beat a champion MMA fighter in their own game.

I think that concept frightens the MMA hardcore fans.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Ngannou was in the UFC for 6 years before he fought Stipe the 2nd time and 3 years before the first - do you think he didn't training wrestling before that? lol

I am honestly not trying to be mean and I apologize if it sounds rude but I just could not disagree any more on this.

Yes Ngannou was in the UFC for 6 years, but his wrestling was it that effective, he in fact barely used it because he would knock folks out fast.

You don't sound rude at all, were just having a conversation. There is nothing wrong with that. But anyways we can agree to disagree I'm cool with that.

Having a discourse about an interesting subject is worth the effort. So it's all good.

 

[1King]

Bud Crawford is not completely clueless with grappling, he has a strong wrestling background. And he can train for a year and than do this one off fight.

When is the last time he wrestled competitively? The 90’s? Lol

 

[rjmbrd]

It's not about weight classes, it's about learning the craft and Ngannou proved that despite the naysayers that said he would lose to Stipe easily in their second bout.

Right what I'm saying is Stipe was grossly less skilled and athletic compared to elite peers in lower weight divisions.

I honestly don't think this is even a debate for someone such as yourself who is a years-long fan. The roster depth is the worst, so is the average age. You can close a skill gap when that gap is much smaller.

The difference in pure skill between guys like Topuria/Islam and Stipe is a mile wide. Thats just how low the level of competition is up top.

But Crawford is perhaps the best of his generation in boxing. And I'm sure he's not going into MMA and not be prepared. He's going to this MMA fight without a doubt highly prepared.

This is completely fantasy, but fun to talk about anyhow.

 

[MRT]

No.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

When is the last time he wrestled competitively? The 90’s? Lol

I have no idea. But I'm sure he does it here and there. Who knows what he's truly capable of. I wouldn't shut down the possibility. Especially a elite athlete who can box like Crawford. There is always a puncher's chance. If Crawford can keep it standing, he has a very good chance in being victorious.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Right what I'm saying is Stipe was grossly less skilled and athletic compared to elite peers in lower weight divisions.

I honestly don't think this is even a debate for someone such as yourself who is a years-long fan. The roster depth is the worst, so is the average age. You can close a skill gap when that gap is much smaller.

The difference in pure skill between guys like Topuria/Islam and Stipe is a mile wide. Thats just how low the level of competition is up top.





This is completely fantasy, but fun to talk about anyhow.

I just feel anything is possible, I don't know dismiss someone just because they never fought officially in MMA fight before. We're talking about a different athlete here. Terence Crawford is not the average man or even average boxer. He's way better than James Tony ever was.

People say on here guys like Lebron can become a competent MMA fighter with proper training. Why not the so called best boxer of his generation be able to do it?

He's not an average boxer. This guy is an elite boxer. Of course if he gets taken down he'll get smothered and probably gets TKOed or submitted. But if Crawford keeps in standing it will be 50/50 at the worst.

 

[Dim1]

Nah nobody wants to see a guy run around the ring throwing counter shots from distance. On top of that he needs to avoid take downs - more running.

 

[Fahcough]

dunno who he is, so no thanks.

 

[Siver!]

He's trying to recruit MMA fans given he is promoted by a company.

That is literally all there is to this "question".

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

He's almost 40 years old and making tens of millions in boxing, there is zero reason for him to consider trying MMA.

This is the correct answer. On Rogan he said he'd done some grappling, maybe Greco-roman? Either way like you say no point even discussing it

 

[TheBrownRanger]

No fucking chance a current Undisputed champion boxer will ever do MMA.

Boxers like to get a rise out of MMA fans and you fall for it every single time.

 

[hswrestler]

Hmm lets see him have an MMA fight with a pure wrestling/grappling guy as a freakshow event. I'd like to see it. Maybe CM Punk?

But seriously, he's going to get destroyed by every UFC fighter, hell he even said he doesn't want to try mma because he's scared of the kicks.

 

[HHJ]

He's almost 40 years old and making tens of millions in boxing, there is zero reason for him to consider trying MMA.

Right, its not worth thinking about. It's completley unrealistic in all ways.