Would you ever raise another man's child?

[Mike]

Says the dude who got married at 35 which is the start of a dude's peak SMV.

Good luck brah! SRS
The 'barely' legal' point is again, shaming tactics. Raised by a single mom?

You could be gorging young, thin, hot attractive women. Instead, you brought the state into your LTR whereby, if she like many other women decides to divorce, your life is trashed and you are broke financially.

The same dude talking shit on 'barely legal' would be the same cuck calling these girls sluts when they get rejected and spent the night durrr'n around.

You're going off the assumption that everyone sees dating as a competition to find out who can bang the most randoms. Some people value having an actual emotional connection with someone and a supportive partner in their life. You shouldn't assume that everyone that thinks differently than you do is inferior.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

You're saying only a biological father can be a valid father, and spinning it as if that's a scientific fact. It isn't and never has been. The root of human existence wasn't the nuclear family, so that argument doesn't even make sense on that level. The origin of human culture was tribal. Men and women banged whoever they wanted, and the kids were raised by the entire community. The concepts of monogamy and the family unit didn't come along until much later, and they're social constructs not natural.


You think you're arguing using biology, but you are not. Your argument IS sociological.

It is not either or. You can't be one and not the other. I simply value the biological aspect more than the sociological. Biological is factual, then sociological is how we interpret it in the construction of a larger group.

We are simply arguing semantics here. You feel biological doesn't matter. I'm arguing that the only TRUE father is the biological. The one that created the life.

You prefer to value the nurturing gender role aspect of fatherhood. That's completely fine.

We could be arguing at this for days

To me, when it comes down to it.... Father = The one who created it with his own DNA. Simply factual/scientific. I don't deny the ethical and social aspect of the fatherhood concept... I just simply hold the biological aspect as the common denominator/defining aspect.

 

[Mike]

Links above include vid which holds more links + sources speaks for itself.

Father is banished from own home. Woman fucks up with his resources + kids.

A grandfather, uncle, anybody is good to be around. What usually happens is a series of dudes smashing single mom come about and the kids get diddled.

Children are at higher risk in single mom households. Science pertaining to infidelity + divorce among single moms and promiscuous women speak for itself.




Yes, it was tribal in many ways, we still are but, when you input single mom welfare state, divorce laws that pander to women, affirmative action that hand off jobs like fire fighting and cops to women that cannot hack it to begin with just go to show the big circle jerk.

Since feminism and the abomination of the nuclear family, the divorces as high as 90% initiated by college educated women speak for itself.



The science speaks for itself. High promiscuity IE female discontentment + lack of stability INCREASES risk of divorce.

If a woman leaves a man stealing his children and resources, what sort of cuck will jump on that grenade?

No dude with fucking options would ever dare do such a thing.

Those stats don't show that every single mother is in that situation because she's a gold digging skank. That's your personal bias you're applying to it. And of course being raised without two parents is detrimental. That again doesn't mean every single mom is in that position through their own fault.


The thing is you hate women, and you're applying that point of view to everything you see. Ironic that we're having this conversation, since according to half of sherdog I hate women. I wouldn't argue that some women aren't bitchy demanding skanks, or even that society doesn't encourage that behavior indirectly. People are still more complex than labeling entire vast groups and saying "all of those people think like this and behave like this"

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

You can care for someone's offspring.. But personally I wouldn't consider you the father. Rather a guardian, or perhaps "dad" (Maybe maybe not). Lots of people just use step-father.

On the flip side you have "Biological father".... Could easily be called "Scientific Father" or "Factual Father"

Step-father could easily be "Meta-physical Father"

SEMEN-ANTICS!

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

ALL of this is still going of the assumption that every single mother is a skank. You operate on the belief that ALL women are sluts, which makes your conclusions flawed. You're also misrepresenting my argument. I'm not saying every man should rush out to find a single mother with a bunch of kids, and raise them and give her all his money.

A significant portion of women are sluts. I don't care what cute picture PC culture wants to paint you or any other WK.

Calling it out for what it is, saying, I wont marry or LTR most women is just that.

Raising some man's children with a woman who would never have given you the time a day before declining SMV is retarded.

Making a commitment to someone is completely optional. If someone wants to remain single and bang randoms their whole life, more power to them. I'm a big believer in personal freedom. However if you meet someone you're compatible with, and they happen to have a kid, it's a bit arbitrary to say that's always a horrible choice. You could always, I don't know, get to know that person before making a commitment. If they have 4 kids by 4 dads then sure, probably some serious issues there. It's not as if you can't find out this information before making a decision.

You sound like you are hacking.

Society reeks of adversity to competition, victimhood, and pandering to female entitlement.

The promo for single moms is not matched by single fathers. Society paints the picture of how evil man is. Women preach about their money they get from their ex. Its a parade and I wont be party to it.

No man with intelligence and OPTIONS IE CHOICE will choose working their life around baby sitters and paying her bills.

SIngle moms are not independent. They rely heavily on government resources. IE TAX PAYER INCOME.

If everyone didn't rush into fucking someone 5 minutes after meeting them, there's quite a lot of red flags you might notice a lot sooner.

Which is fine. People are not all that compatible but, women have an abundance of contraceptive options. In many a cases, they lie, and get knocked up because of the parade of free money + sympathy society will pedal her way.

In ALL cases I ever witnessed, woman leaves with man's resources + children (i say leaves loosely since she takes his house 99% of the time) and then Jumps back on carousel 2.0. ALWAYS.

Its a choice. If women are marching off the cliff, GOOD RIDDANCE.

CAPTAIN SAVE A HOE IS NOT COMING. Be my guest though brah.

It wont end well.

 

[Mike]

It is not either or. You can't be one and not the other. I simply value the biological aspect more than the sociological. Biological is factual, then sociological is how we interpret it in the construction of a larger group.

We are simply arguing semantics here. You feel biological doesn't matter. I'm arguing that the only TRUE father is the biological. The one that created the life.

You prefer to value the nurturing gender role aspect of fatherhood. That's completely fine.

We could be arguing at this for days

To me, when it comes down to it.... Father = The one who created it with his own DNA. Simply factual/scientific. I don't deny the ethical and social aspect of the fatherhood concept... I just simply hold the biological aspect as the common denominator/defining aspect.

how can it be the defining aspect, when the person that actually raises the child shapes and determines the kind of person they will be? That's just a fact. An actual real fact. Someone is the biological parent but then dies or vanishes, and the person that raises the child their entire life isn't the real parent? Adoptive parents aren't "real" parents? That just doesn't make much sense.

 

[djacobox372]

I'm not a cuck so I wouldn't marry/raise the child of a single mom unless she was a widow who would also bear my children

I would raise a relative if their parents died or became unable

You sound insecure.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

how can it be the defining aspect, when the person that actually raises the child shapes and determines the kind of person they will be? That's just a fact. An actual real fact. Someone is the biological parent but then dies or vanishes, and the person that raises the child their entire life isn't the real parent? Adoptive parents aren't "real" parents? That just doesn't make much sense.

We can go on and on with this.

This is a classic debate of Nature vs. Nurture. As much as you are correct about the nurturing influence of an abled and in the flesh parent.... Genetics inherent from Biological Father shape us IMMENSELY. I think you are being dishonest here. Genetics I'd argue influence us even more than our upbringing/who we were influenced by.

Height, looks, race, skin color, disfigurement, disability... The list goes on and on.

Genetics are imperative.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

Imagine if Genetics didn't matter.

LOLZ!

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Those stats don't show that every single mother is in that situation because she's a gold digging skank. That's your personal bias you're applying to it. And of course being raised without two parents is detrimental. That again doesn't mean every single mom is in that position through their own fault.

The msg is loud and clear; it simply reads:

DONT DATE SINGLE MOMS

There are how many billions of women out there. Only cucks and broke men, men with no options, no sex life or women resort to these fallback options.

You sir can do better then this. I have faith in you.

The thing is you hate women, and you're applying that point of view to everything you see. Ironic that we're having this conversation, since according to half of sherdog I hate women. I wouldn't argue that some women aren't bitchy demanding skanks, or even that society doesn't encourage that behavior indirectly. People are still more complex than labeling entire vast groups and saying "all of those people think like this and behave like this"

I am disgusted by the single mother and sloots skiing down cawk mountain followed by putting on the good girl act &&& trying to rope in some dumb schmuck.

I am disgusted by dudes with low testosterone out raising some man's baby and footing her bills when her best days are over.

Deeming I hate women or using shaming language and means of manipulation does not change the facts.

The facts in divorce and female promiscuity illustrate that a significant portion are bang bus material not staking my resources on.

Again, I have done this before but we can do it again.

Male late 20s - entrepreneur - home owner + no live in gf/wife.

I run a tight ship. Bad mood? GTFO.

Not in the mood? GTFO.

There are BILLIONS of women on this fucking planet. Why not entertain the idea of being single, of exploring, and having fun without following the beaten path society laid out for you?

 

[Mike]

A significant portion of women are sluts. I don't care what cute picture PC culture wants to paint you or any other WK.

Calling it out for what it is, saying, I wont marry or LTR most women is just that.

Raising some man's children with a woman who would never have given you the time a day before declining SMV is retarded.




You sound like you are hacking.

Society reeks of adversity to competition, victimhood, and pandering to female entitlement.

The promo for single moms is not matched by single fathers. Society paints the picture of how evil man is. Women preach about their money they get from their ex. Its a parade and I wont be party to it.

No man with intelligence and OPTIONS IE CHOICE will choose working their life around baby sitters and paying her bills.

SIngle moms are not independent. They rely heavily on government resources. IE TAX PAYER INCOME.



Which is fine. People are not all that compatible but, women have an abundance of contraceptive options. In many a cases, they lie, and get knocked up because of the parade of free money + sympathy society will pedal her way.

In ALL cases I ever witnessed, woman leaves with man's resources + children (i say leaves loosely since she takes his house 99% of the time) and then Jumps back on carousel 2.0. ALWAYS.

Its a choice. If women are marching off the cliff, GOOD RIDDANCE.

CAPTAIN SAVE A HOE IS NOT COMING. Be my guest though brah.

It wont end well.

Sure some women are awful. Probably a lot of women. That doesn't equal all women. My friend is dating a single mom and she's a stupid bitch. I wouldn't date a similar woman. Not every single mom is in that position because she's a skank or a gold digger though.

Like I said before you could always actually get to know someone before committing to them. If someone's a skank, gold digger, sociopath, selfish, etc. these negative traits often show up early if you pay attention.


I've seen guys get screwed over by vindictive exes, but I've also seen people just split up because it didn't work. Life is complicated and people are complex. Everyone can't be boiled down to a mustache twirling villain in real life.

 

[Mike]

Imagine if Genetics didn't matter.

LOLZ!

Don't matter =/= aren't the only characteristic that determines personality and behavior

The msg is loud and clear; it simply reads:

DONT DATE SINGLE MOMS

There are how many billions of women out there. Only cucks and broke men, men with no options, no sex life or women resort to these fallback options.

You sir can do better then this. I have faith in you.



I am disgusted by the single mother and sloots skiing down cawk mountain followed by putting on the good girl act &&& trying to rope in some dumb schmuck.

I am disgusted by dudes with low testosterone out raising some man's baby and footing her bills when her best days are over.

Deeming I hate women or using shaming language and means of manipulation does not change the facts.

The facts in divorce and female promiscuity illustrate that a significant portion are bang bus material not staking my resources on.

Again, I have done this before but we can do it again.

Male late 20s - entrepreneur - home owner + no live in gf/wife.

I run a tight ship. Bad mood? GTFO.

Not in the mood? GTFO.

There are BILLIONS of women on this fucking planet. Why not entertain the idea of being single, of exploring, and having fun without following the beaten path society laid out for you?

I'm not trying to shame you or anyone else. Like I said I believe everyone should lead the life they want. But you seem quick to judge everyone that doesn't share your pov to be inferior, weak and stupid. And to generally dislike almost all women. So you find information to back up that worldview.

Nobody is saying guys have a captain save a ho responsibility to marry a single mom. But if someone finds a good relationship with a girl that happens to have kids, it seems arbitrary to say that's always wrong or somehow makes them an inferior person. Some people LIKE family life and raising children. Some people like banging various randoms and keeping their life free of responsibility. I don't see either one as right or wrong. People should do whatever makes them happy as long as it doesn't harm others.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

Good debate Michael. I'm off to my private steam room.

 

[John Wang]

Same here Buns!

I wouldnt want to train that kid to be like this:

And then have them turn around and use that skill to support their biological dad.

Exactly bunny!!!

 

[Hans Gercmiov]

I don't even want to raise my own kids.

 

[LEGS MAHONEY]

only if i get to smack da fuck out of him when he acts up like im his real daddy

 

[Jack Reacheround]

I would never raise another man's child. If I got with a chick who had children already, I would eat the children, then make her bear children of my own like gorillas do.

 

[My name is]

Tried it a couple times it's not for me

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

I would never raise another man's child. If I got with a chick who had children already, I would eat the children, then make her bear children of my own like gorillas do.

why would you choose to make bear children? if anything I've learned that sherdoggers like game pit Bulls, groundhogs and honey badgers.

if I was gonna make my wife children, I'd choose one of those over bears.

also I had no idea that male guerrillas make their mates have bears for children.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

the things you learn here!!!