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He worked with them for the first Frankie fight. They just left one month early. Conditioning wise it wouldn't have made a difference. I think he was with them in 2013 and 2017 with Gary. Marv had a neurological disease. He couldn't train anyone then. I think he died recently.
Marv did die recently. Penn did stop training with him a month before the first Frankie fight. You're correct. He was not in his recollection.
Still, Penn was robbed in that first Frankie fight with Marv. Without him, he got outworked and looked listless. He fed Frankie that jab in their first fight all night and defended twelve of thirteen takedowns. I don't want to go down this road, lol.