Woodley WRECKED Maia and made it look easy [gifs]

[fortheo]

Like TW knew he'd fight on UFC214? Was a short training camp for both.

Can't believe that myth is still circulating. Woodley was training for a July fight since before Maia even fought Masvidal.

https://www.mmamania.com/2017/4/17/...r-next-fight-ufc-213-conor-mcgregor-nick-diaz

 

[michi972]

People have a unreasonable expectations on how elite level MMA works.

Demian spammed EIGHTEEN take down attempts, he would legit sloppy dive on Tyron's legs anytime they were near each other.

I don't dispute Maia's right to that game plan, but it takes two to tango. Woodley casually went about beating the ever loving brakes off Maia, the guys face was a complete mess, and he did it with COMPLETE impunity.

It was a one sided ass kicking. If you thought it was boring, blame the guy who spammed non-stop sloppy take downs with no setup, and has spent his career proving to everyone if you don't shuck him off and get out of there, he will hold you down until the bell rings for points.

Woodley out classed Demian and made it look easy. That is a big accomplishment.

Woodley won the belt with a spectacular first round knockout of Robbie Lawler. He then fights three times in one year, the only truly active champion, fighting real #1 contenders.

Lets not cast aspersions on Maia and Woodley. They put on a fine performance, styles make fights.

Wrecked?They looked like equals in striking.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

This fight did I think show again that Maia hasn't really changed, he's not become this wrestling monster some people talked him up as, just he was facing opponents who didn't know how to deal with someone who wants to get the fight to the ground in ANY position meaning they can't counter his takedowns with there own takedowns. WW especially was full of wrestlers who were like this never having faced someone like him but Woodley could avoid the takedowns and control distance(just as Rory could), when he did Maia was revealed as not being that great wrestling wise.

Maia for me as well does I think lack that bit of magic grappling wise, even if he'd gotten Woodley down he's likely have been looking for position mostly where as he'd IMHO have needed the ability to grab a quick sub more like say Aoki, Jacare or Nog in the past.

 

[One MMA Fan]

Was a short training camp for both.

Woodley was in training camp before Maia entered the cage at UFC 211.. Woodley knew it's a rush to get to GSP.. people mention it already.

Woodley just enough to win..

 

[Kleinschuster]

Woodley was in training camp before Maia entered the cage at UFC 211.. Woodley knew it's a rush to get to GSP.. people mention it already.

Woodley just enough to win..

But Maia took 0 dmg in his last fight and was fit as well. So what's the point? Both were in shape and didn't know they would face each other 3 weeks prior to the fight.

 

[Kleinschuster]

Can't believe that myth is still circulating. Woodley was training for a July fight since before Maia even fought Masvidal.

https://www.mmamania.com/2017/4/17/...r-next-fight-ufc-213-conor-mcgregor-nick-diaz

So Maia was in shape and Woodley was as well? Both didn't know they would fight each other 3 weeks prior. Maia didnt take any dmg in his last fight. It's not like he was a Hendricks that ballooned up right after his fight.

 

[One MMA Fan]

But Maia took 0 dmg in his last fight and was fit as well. So what's the point? Both were in shape and didn't know they would face each other 3 weeks prior to the fight.

From 2005 around here and that's your response ?

Shieeettt.

 

[Kleinschuster]

From 2005 around here and that's your response ?

Shieeettt.

What an argument you make there. Interesting.

 

[One MMA Fan]

So Maia was in shape and Woodley was as well? Both didn't know they would fight each other 3 weeks prior. Maia didnt take any dmg in his last fight. It's not like he was a Hendricks that ballooned up right after his fight.

What an argument you make there. Interesting.

Doesn't work like that.

Maia is 40 in a few months, 2-3 if I remember correct. Dude ain't a freak just a normal white guy in his 40's in shape of course cause he is a pro athlete but nothing special.

Maia did take damage, not a lot, not extreme levels by any chance but still a top WW striker was punishing him with some shots, they count, he felt them after be sure, next day, next week.

But what's more damaging is the training camp that came along with that fight.

He had no rest before jumping into another camp, time was of the essence here.

He is of decent size weight wise for the division so another hard weight cut for an older man in a short time window isn't so easy to do.

Then the mental aspect of it, you get no brake it's literately train for a fight then go fight and repeat that for many months that Maia had to do it.
Then add in why was he rushed in the first place ? why what probably is his last tittle shot of his career had to be rushed so much.. NY fight vs GSP that's why that ironically Woodley screwed himself. All this must have a psychological mind fuck aspect to when you are near 40 and you finally get you shot after 7-8 wins in a row and they do you dirty like that.

While on the other had a much younger man, psychical specimen at that, rested up real good and with plans laid out in advance by him, his team, the company he just needed the name to finalize his last weeks of training camp accordingly that's it.

Unlike some I pay attention to everything in terms of info that I can get my hands on and I was well aware of the circumstances of this situation.

How is that for an argument. Interesting now too right.

 

[Kleinschuster]

Doesn't work like that.

Maia is 40 in a few months, 2-3 if I remember correct. Dude ain't a freak just a normal white guy in his 40's in shape of course cause he is a pro athlete but nothing special.

Maia did take damage, not a lot, not extreme levels by any chance but still a top WW striker was punishing him with some shots, they count, he felt them after be sure, next day, next week.

But what's more damaging is the training camp that came along with that fight.

He had no rest before jumping into another camp, time was of the essence here.

He is of decent size weight wise for the division so another hard weight cut for an older man in a short time window isn't so easy to do.

Then the mental aspect of it, you get no brake it's literately train for a fight then go fight and repeat that for many months that Maia had to do it.
Then add in why was he rushed in the first place ? why what probably is his last tittle shot of his career had to be rushed so much.. NY fight vs GSP that's why that ironically Woodley screwed himself. All this must have a psychological mind fuck aspect to when you are near 40 and you finally get you shot after 7-8 wins in a row and they do you dirty like that.

While on the other had a much younger man, psychical specimen at that, rested up real good and with plans laid out in advance by him, his team, the company he just needed the name to finalize his last weeks of training camp accordingly that's it.

Unlike some I pay attention to everything in terms of info that I can get my hands on and I was well aware of the circumstances of this situation.

How is that for an argument. Interesting now too right.

Nice argument. And I agree with you, that TW had an advantage there. Still that doesn't validate that all the blame is solely put on TW when Maia was shooting nonestop and not adjusting. TW went to hospital right after the fight cause he had a dislocated shoulder. So that might have been a factor. On the other hand see what Mike did with a short notice title shot.

 

[One MMA Fan]

Nice argument. And I agree with you, that TW had an advantage there. Still that doesn't validate that all the blame is solely put on TW when Maia was shooting nonestop and not adjusting. TW went to hospital right after the fight cause he had a dislocated shoulder. So that might have been a factor. On the other hand see what Mike did with a short notice title shot.

Woodley managed to screw Maia's eye right in the start and then defended plenty of time.. those second round, third round etc TD were coming with a lot less by that time and still nothing from Woodley.

He played it full defense with the minimum offense possible.

Maia with 1 eye for better or worse he gave it his all, his game was pushed to the limits of his effort he tried 25 takedowns or some shit.

We can't shit on someone doing their best.. we just can't but when we see Woodley's effort then sorry that's a different talk.

Woodley fairly deserves the shit that he is taking now for that more then lazy effort / performance he gave us.

 

[MCS]

It was predictable, a bad match-up for fans.

Tyron can't go forward or Maia's chances to get him down go up.
He can't explode half across the cage like he did with Kampmann, since if he misses, again, chances are he's on his back.

So he moved backwards & sideways, often in a low stance with his hands down to keep balance and land short shots without full power. Maia couldn't do anything to combat that, but he's shown in the past that if you slip up once he gets control and it's incredibly hard to get out.

This was boring as shit because of how they match up. Tyron did well, didn't want to risk it and won a safe UD. BOO, but the alternative is far worse. The next one, be it GSP, Lawler or Masvidal will be better because they all can do multiple things well.

 

[Kleinschuster]

Woodley managed to screw Maia's eye right in the start and then defended plenty of time.. those second round, third round etc TD were coming with a lot less by that time and still nothing from Woodley.

He played it full defense with the minimum offense possible.

Maia with 1 eye for better or worse he gave it his all, his game was pushed to the limits of his effort he tried 25 takedowns or some shit.

We can't shit on someone doing their best.. we just can't but when we see Woodley's effort then sorry that's a different talk.

Woodley fairly deserves the shit that he is taking now for that more then lazy effort / performance he gave us.

I wrote 3 times that TW said he dislocated his shoulder in the first and all you do is bringing up Maia's eye. We'll never know if it would have been different. And I shit on Maia - he tried nothing but keep on shooting from across the cage.

 

[One MMA Fan]

I wrote 3 times that TW said he dislocated his shoulder in the first and all you do is bringing up Maia's eye. We'll never know if it would have been different. And I shit on Maia - he tried nothing but keep on shooting from across the cage.

I can see the eye, I can't the shoulder and I sure as hell don't trust his words on it, in a situation that the MMA world including his boss shits on him for his performance so something like that could be used like a last ditch effort.

Maia at least tried the heck did Woodley do ? cause that wasn't trying hard that's for sure. The Frozen One.

 

[rjmbrd]

Wrecked?They looked like equals in striking.

I literally do not believe, that you believe that statement.

 

[rjmbrd]

It was predictable, a bad match-up for fans.

Tyron can't go forward or Maia's chances to get him down go up.
He can't explode half across the cage like he did with Kampmann, since if he misses, again, chances are he's on his back.

So he moved backwards & sideways, often in a low stance with his hands down to keep balance and land short shots without full power. Maia couldn't do anything to combat that, but he's shown in the past that if you slip up once he gets control and it's incredibly hard to get out.

This was boring as shit because of how they match up. Tyron did well, didn't want to risk it and won a safe UD. BOO, but the alternative is far worse. The next one, be it GSP, Lawler or Masvidal will be better because they all can do multiple things well.

This is a completely sane, balanced view of events.

Styles make fights, and blaming it all on one of the dance partners makes no sense. This is how they matched up in a game of inches. For his part, Woodley clearly and without debate proved he was the better fighter.

I can't stand Woodley as a person, he says some obnoxious things, but that may just be marketing. Either way, people should understand how MMA works at this level.

 

[rjmbrd]

They are in the entertainment industry.

I think Dana said it best:

"the guy could've finished the fight at any time he ... [If] you take no risks, you get no rewards.”

I think it is a fair statement to acknowledge that the current standing order at WME is to focus on entertainment, not sport. That is why the current middleweight champion 'defended' his belt against the retiring, multi-year losing spree, THIRTEENTH ranked opponent. That is why he's likely to 'defend' his belt a second time against a retired welterweight, making his middleweight debut.

The lightweight champion is literally fighting a boxing match with Floyd Mayweather, and there are two #1 contenders with 8 and 9 fight streaks respectively.

It's basically all on the table, and folks will have to adjust accordingly.

For his part though, Woodley wasn't invited to the circus. He was asked to fight the rightful #1 contender, three times in a row since winning the belt.

Woodley acted accordingly.

You want to book him in money fights with exhibition level talent? Then we can complain Woodley isn't doing tricks and YOLO moves.

 

[rjmbrd]

Fitch was top 5 when Maia sent him to wsof, so that's an elite win as well, unless you revision history like you seem to be alluding to with your Condit footnote. Masvidal was and still is top 5. Add those to your list of you want some type of validity. Your spelling out context reads a lot like your opinion.

Fitch was one punch KO'd by Hendricks, and went to a split draw with a completely shot BJ Penn. He then gets tapped out by Josh @$#@$@%@%@ Burkman.

Josh just went an astonishing 1-6 in his UFC run, as a reward for beating Fitch.

You are smarter than this. Be better than this.

Cool, Maia beat all of the above despite them being more well rounded than him.

Sonnen, magny, masvidal, Condit, Fitch.

Sonnen has been tapped by guys you've literally never heard of. Be better than this.

Magny, as I noted, very good win, in fact I said verbatim his wins against Magny and Condit 'stand alone' in his record.

If only Masvidal was more well rounded, right? Then he would have got the SD.

Masvidal has bad fight IQ, and has historically given up close decisions in marquee fights. He made a critical error engaging Maia on the ground when he pulled guard after getting stuff, and the rest is history.

Dom has been wrong plenty of times.

Immaterial. I didn't claim 'Dom is never wrong' I simply stated that you misquoted me. I didn't make the claim that Maia can't beat the top 3 in the division because of his one sided approach, Dom did.

What I wonder is this: why are you so obsessed with pointing out Maia's single minded game as if it's a weaknesses when plenty of fighters who have a more well rounded style--which correct me if I'm wrong, seems to be what you think is superior considering you say Maia loses because he lacks that well rounded quality--haven't had careers nearly as good as Maia's?

I'm not obsessed with it, you just disagree with my point of view.

We don't need to argue though, because Maia came up short again. It has been decided for us.

 

[Kleinschuster]

I can see the eye, I can't the shoulder and I sure as hell don't trust his words on it, in a situation that the MMA world including his boss shits on him for his performance so something like that could be used like a last ditch effort.

Maia at least tried the heck did Woodley do ? cause that wasn't trying hard that's for sure. The Frozen One.

How did Maia try? Where did he try to knock Woodley out?

 

[One MMA Fan]

How did Maia try? Where did he try to knock Woodley out?

He tried many takedowns he tried to swing for the fences but he ain't the best striker and with all the other factors that I explained earlier that's the result.