Woman shot to death by her 2yr old in a Walmart.

[Nonsense]

So the safer wasn't on.

The gun was loaded.

And there was a bullet in the chamber.

Toss in the purse. Give to child to distract him during shopping.

I can't even...

 

[bref]

I'll just leave this here..

Spoiler

I don't think anyone, even the anti-gun crowd, expects gun accidents to be a top 5 cause of accidental death... Not too sure what you're getting at here. Or do you like to use the 'LETS BAN WATER BECAUSE PEOPLE DROWN DERP' argument?

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

never would of happened at target

Hehe

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

So the safer wasn't on.

The gun was loaded.

And there was a bullet in the chamber.

Toss in the purse. Give to child to distract him during shopping.

I can't even...

Not sure what type of pistol it was, but if it was a revolver the safety comment isn't really a factor.

Crazy story tho.


Happy New Year!

 

[Hyperglide]

Happened in Idaho. I bet that mom couldn't even count to Potato..

 

[Viva]

So much for that piece protecting her.

 

[JAderholt]

Thats crazy n sad that the kid managed all that. I have a 2 year old n she doesn't even know what a gun is. Has no idea.

I own a 9mm (jimenez arms, cheap pos) an over-under double barrel 12 gauge, a Remington 20 guage pump, and a 30-06 rifle. Shes never seen them. Idk why a 2 year old would know how to shoot a gun.

 

[Scrody]

I'm not one of those "ban all guns" people, but the gun enthusiasts are getting more an more obnoxious, paranoid, and defensive by the day.

That's because the gun control crowd is full of morons that don't know the difference between a rifle and a revolver, yet they want to pass gun laws. Despite American violent crime rates being as low as they've ever been since the 40s/50s.

"NOBAMA GONNA TAKE MAH GUNS! DON'T TREAD ON ME LIBTARDS!". Jesus, just shut the fuck up. Nobody is taking your guns, even though most of you SHOULD have them taken.

You accuse the pro gun crowd being obnoxious, then go and post the most obnoxious thing in this thread.

 

[Scrody]

I don't think anyone, even the anti-gun crowd, expects gun accidents to be a top 5 cause of accidental death... Not too sure what you're getting at here. Or do you like to use the 'LETS BAN WATER BECAUSE PEOPLE DROWN DERP' argument?

 

[Nonsense]

Just truly horrible logic.

 

[Barnacle Goose]

Unfortunate event to happen. But man some of the defense current gun laws in the US is quite frightening in terms of peoples ability to just disregard shit. Not saying this event is indicative of the issues the US face (Doesn't help the image) but man people are unaware.

With regards to research and gun control do people even understand the strangle hold Gun Lobby groups (NRA) have of the ability to censor any form of anti gun research (Legislation to limit funding and actual research directions e.g. why guns are bad). Due to these limitations no academic researchers actually specialise in this area of have funding to undertake this research. Pretty much the entire area is barren unless the gun control lobbies ok this shit. So yeah interesting how advocates for the right to bare arms pretty much ignore a shitload of censorship at the same time.

 

[Scrody]

Just truly horrible logic.

What is?

 

[Scrody]

With regards to research and gun control do people even understand the strangle hold Gun Lobby groups (NRA) have of the ability to censor any form of anti gun research (Legislation to limit funding and actual research directions e.g. why guns are bad). Due to these limitations no academic researchers actually specialise in this area of have funding to undertake this research. Pretty much the entire area is barren unless the gun control lobbies ok this shit. So yeah interesting how advocates for the right to bare arms pretty much ignore a shitload of censorship at the same time.

Is there a sauce to go with this?

More than 2/3 of gun deaths are drug related, gang related or suicide.

And the anti gun lobby in Washington state just spent ten times the amount of money the NRA did on a "common sense" law, I594. I think you may be exaggerating your claims.

 

[Barnacle Goose]

Is there a sauce to go with this?

More than 2/3 of gun deaths are drug related, gang related or suicide.

And the anti gun lobby in Washington state just spent ten times the amount of money the NRA did on a "common sense" law, I594. I think you may be exaggerating your claims.

There are a couple good podcasts and articles on the subject. Will go back a grab them. Also simply because other lobby groups are attempting to counter the NRA (On a single bill) doesn't really relate to my statement e.g. systematic laws have already been put in place from prior lobbying.

Side note: Lobbying governments in its current context both US and Australia (Only contexts I know decently) is retarded and should be illegal.

EDIT: Having trouble finding the podcasts and articles I read a while back but this does a decent job of providing a small overview of the funding freezes placed on gun control research http://www.salon.com/2012/07/25/the_nras_war_on_gun_science/. I should probably also note that I believe some forms of increased regulation and control over firearms is probably a good idea however am far more in favour of simply having research conducted from unbiased parties. Once this occurs everybody on both sides would be far more informed and able to make decisions on the issue as well as potentially change their current opinions on gun control.

I know I have the ability to change my mind or personal beliefs/attitudes when information is presented and it is important people have somewhat of an open mind. Unfortunately this information has been blocked from ever being provided due to the NRA's efforts.

 

[kahiljabroni]

Guns don't kill people, toddlers do

 

[Cid]

Darwin award. Let a 2 year old get possession of your purse when it has a loaded sidearm in it. I don't even...

Oh, and women who carry in their purse strike me as rather unserious about being willing to defend themselves. At that point, it's all about comfort of mind, rather than actually being in a position to draw down in a time of need. Considering that your time from threat assessment to draw should be within two seconds, the idea of having to unzip your purse, find the pistol, and draw it from amongst makeup, phone, etc. is pretty telling of her proficiency.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Now cue the opportunistic antis and foreigners who will ignore the hundreds of thousands of examples in the heaving piles of anecdotal and statistical evidence that proves firearms save more lives than they take.

Save more lives than they take? How do you get statistical evidence about hypothetical situations?

Do the people assesing this situation have some sort of machine to travel into an alternative reality where said guns weren't there and case by case they figure out which ones would have been fatal and which ones wouldn't?

 

[Lethal_Striker]

I am no expert in this field but I would wager a guess that the number of guns going off accidentally killing people is far higher then the number of muggings thwarted because the potential victim of the incident had a gun on them. Honestly if someone does come at you to rob you and you pull a gun on them in defense instead of them just pulling the gun on you and taking your wallet and leaving they're likely to open fire on you in the process. That's if you have time to even pull your weapon to begin with. If someone pulls a gun on you they're not going to give you advanced warning and before you know what's going on you'll have a gun in your face and going for your weapon at that point will only result in you getting shot. The idea that owning a gun protects you any more then not having a gun is only a myth. It's basically a placebo effect to allow you to sleep better at night.

 

[Street Level]

I don't know man. There are plenty of guns in Canada, yet it is rare to hear about something like this.

Chalk it up to carelessness (which is more or less your point to begin with).

How did the 2 year old figure out how to disengage the safety?