Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

[Bwagster]

You are literally sharing braindead partisan propaganda in a thread about a US citizen killed by a federal agent.

Take a look in the mirror.

What propaganda are you talking about? It’s called sarcasm you dork.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

https://borderoversight.org/files/2021-01-00_cbp_use_of_force.pdf

Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

Officers are only granted their authority because of the rules that exist. When they violate those rules, they are not acting lawfully.

Oh so it was the officer who broke the law by walking in front of the vehicle?

So... He deserved it?

Wow.... Your side is grasping at straws to put the blame on the officer for being hit by the vehicle.... Not mentioning she was fleeing the scene which was the actual crime.

Haven't heard that anywhere but here, for good reason.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Blocking ice agents you fool

Lol , the truck ahead of them went around her no problem, she wasn't blocking anything.

Do you have anything else ?

 

[b34stmode]

Oh so it was the officer who broke the law by walking in front of the vehicle?

So... He deserved it?

Wow.... Your side is grasping at straws to put the blame on the officer for being hit by the vehicle.... Not mentioning she was fleeing the scene which was the actual crime.

Haven't heard that anywhere but here, for good reason.

wtf am I even reading? He broke DHS protocol, yes. That is a fact.

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

I think he's a fascist because he can't handle people asserting their 1st amendment rights to heckle him.

You're basically admitting that the issue was that they were heckling the ICE agents, who did not like their authority being questioned. So they abused said authority to illegally order her out of the car, without articulating lawful arrest or detention, they drew their weapons in violation of their regulations, they attempted to body block her vehicle in violation of their regulations, and then they killed her.

I don't know how you can view their actions as anything but fascist retaliation for her questioning their authority.

Bro, cops do illegal shit on the daily, it doesn’t mean they’re fascist, corrupt yes, poorly trained absolutely.

Correct, her heckling poorly trained, incompetent agents is the issue that got her killed. I’m definitely not saying she deserved it, but that is what led to her death. Yes, the agent needs to be held accountable.

 

[Ares Black]

What propaganda are you talking about? It’s called sarcasm you dork.

You just can't recognize propaganda. That is a deliberate effort to dehumanize and delegitimize political opposition.

It has no basis in reality. It is purely weaponized emotion. And it's propaganda.

 

[kflo]

Oh so it was the officer who broke the law by walking in front of the vehicle?

So... He deserved it?

Wow.... Your side is grasping at straws to put the blame on the officer for being hit by the vehicle.... Not mentioning she was fleeing the scene which was the actual crime.

Haven't heard that anywhere but here, for good reason.

Deserved what? To go home to his family for dinner unharmed?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

also to show how far gone our current Administration and Vice President are, look at this. Out of the tens of thousands of legitimate tweets on Twitter, he somehow picks this one to respond to(because it’s bad which makes him hopefully look good) and he still comes across as a complete moron. And then you realize, why did he pick this tweet to respond to if he’s responding?? America is doomed.

He is STILL trying to argue the agent was in front of the car when he shot, when that simply isn’t true.




Our VP doesn’t understand this picture is possible

It's fucking scary that our current administration lies so blatantly. He took 3 shots right? One was through the windshield but right next to the a pillar. The next two were through the driver's side window right?

 

[Alpha_T83]

Oh so it was the officer who broke the law by walking in front of the vehicle?

So... He deserved it?

Wow.... Your side is grasping at straws to put the blame on the officer for being hit by the vehicle.... Not mentioning she was fleeing the scene which was the actual crime.

Haven't heard that anywhere but here, for good reason.

The onus is on Federal officers to follow their rules and avoid these situations.

You are acting like the onus should be on this woman to be calmer than the ICE agents and have a better grasp of the law than them. That's simply not the case. It's quite the opposite. The onus is on the ICE agents to follow the law and follow the rules.

And if you "haven't heard this anywhere but here" then you're just following people on social media that support your viewpoint. Not my problem if you prefer an echo chamber.

 

[Poon Goon]

Yet it was so unmemorable you can't post what that 'mistake.'

Here it is.

And Presidents you like of the last 80 years also did the same.
Selective outrage depending if you like the President.

So it's a mute point you're pretending has major significance.

Funny how you leftists focus on tiny 'mistakes' or pretend to not know the meaning of common terms like 'mute point' to distract from the obviously truth that by the facts of the case no charges will be filed because it's an obvious case of self-defense.

No one expects you to admit it.

I obviously knew the meaning because I pointed out that you got it wrong. It's clear you're not a very bright guy, your post history proves it. However, you brag about being intelligent so it's funny to point out glaring examples of you being dumb. Here's a few more.

And Presidents you like of the last 80 years also did the same.
Selective outrage depending if you like the President.

So it's a mute point you're pretending has major significance.

Yes.... and 'each side' bitches about that whenever the current President is of the 'other side.'

So, its a mute point.

Its a mute point anyway, as I already explained zealots don't want or care for a means of nuclear waste disposal.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Bro, cops do illegal shit on the daily, it doesn’t mean they’re fascist, corrupt yes, poorly trained absolutely.

Correct, her heckling poorly trained, incompetent agents is the issue that got her killed. I’m definitely not saying she deserved it, but that is what led to her death. Yes, the agent needs to be held accountable.

This is the same as people arguing victims of crime are responsible because they put themselves in a dangerous situation.

On some basic level it might be technically true, but it is largely irrelevant because no one deserves to be assaulted.

Could she have complied? Could she have allowed her rights to be violated? Sure. But should she be expected to, and if she doesn't then it's her fault if cops shoot her? No.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

https://borderoversight.org/files/2021-01-00_cbp_use_of_force.pdf

Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

Officers are only granted their authority because of the rules that exist. When they violate those rules, they are not acting lawfully.

By the way, 'should not' isn't a direct command. Its not strictly forbidden, and the fact he did so doesn't imply he's at fault for the vehicle striking his body.

 

[Alpha_T83]

By the way, 'should not' isn't a direct command. Its not strictly forbidden, and the fact he did so doesn't imply he's at fault for the vehicle striking his body.

Bro, you're grasping at semantic straws.

The rules very clearly tell officers that they should not place themselves in the path of a vehicle, and specifically references the need to avoid this exact situation which could result in a deadly use of force.

If you can't see that he was clearly in violation of DHS rules, then you are too far gone.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Here it is.

That's not a mistake whatsoever.
You're simply lying about being unforgiving of the supposed transgressions of Presidents you like.

Excuses. Rationalizations.
Everybody has them.

 

[b34stmode]

It's fucking scary that our current administration lies so blatantly. He took 3 shots right? One was through the windshield but right next to the a pillar. The next two were through the driver's side window right?

All 3 shots the agent was NOT in front of the vehicle. First shot went thru the front windshield other two drivers window. But he never took shots from directly in front of the car.

 

[Roids]

Oh so it was the officer who broke the law by walking in front of the vehicle?

So... He deserved it?

Deserved what? He walked away without injury.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Bro, you're grasping at semantic straws.

The rules very clearly tell officers that they should not place themselves in the path of a vehicle, and specifically references the need to avoid this exact situation which could result in a deadly use of force.

If you can't see that he was clearly in violation of DHS rules, then you are too far gone.

Wow.... You should contact CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and every other news organization you found the prosecution's perfect argument why the officer should be charged, tried, and sentenced.

So convincing.
Very convincing.
Awesomely awesome.

Wow.

 

[b34stmode]

By the way, 'should not' isn't a direct command. Its not strictly forbidden, and the fact he did so doesn't imply he's at fault for the vehicle striking his body.

His actions were directly against his training. What the fuck are you on about? “Isn’t a direct command” none of it is a command, its protocol. Are you trolling now?

 

[Poon Goon]

That's not a mistake whatsoever.
You're simply lying about being unforgiving of the supposed transgressions of Presidents you like.

Excuses. Rationalizations.
Everybody has them.

Kinda feel bad now. Thought you understood that "mute point" was the mistake, but it clearly went over your very intelligent head. Carry on, pal.

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

This is the same as people arguing victims of crime are responsible because they put themselves in a dangerous situation.

On some basic level it might be technically true, but it is largely irrelevant because no one deserves to be assaulted.

Could she have complied? Could she have allowed her rights to be violated? Sure. But should she be expected to, and if she doesn't then it's her fault if cops shoot her? No.

We agree it shouldn’t have happened and he needs punished.
We agree violating rights is a heinous act.
But we live in reality and though it may be fucked up, but when an agent/officer has you at gunpoint, you comply or risk losing your life. I’m not excusing it, but that’s the reality of it.
Nobody should be expected to be cool with having their rights violated. But it happens. For numerous reasons. Not all the reasons are nefarious either, incompetence and poor training are mostly to blame. Doesn’t make any less intrusive. Though there are definitely blatant violations as well.
You speak on this like someone who has never been held at gunpoint. For your own safety, I hope you leave that energy on sherdog if you ever are in that situation