Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

[b34stmode]

She shouldn't have tried to flee, or whatever she intended to do with her vehicle. He shouldn't have shot at her or killed her. He wasn't in mortal danger and if anyone should be trained and able to make logical split-second judgements, it would be a federal agent with a gun. I don't know enough about legal stuff or the whole context of the situation to say what is legal or illegal about the situation, I just know that she made a rash decision and the ICE agent reciprocated with an even more rash decision. The whole situation could have been avoided, but here we are. Not deploying ICE agents all over the country would be a great start

Pretty much my feelings. I would add on that EVERY federal agent should be required to have a bodycam. Also add on if they had just went by her like she insisted on them doing, none of this would happen. The only thing she said verbally to the agents was "im not mad at you" while he killed her and said "fucking bitch"

But I mean more shit like this is going to happen until something boils over, America is cooked.

 

[Natural Order]

The driver side footage we've had for a hot minute now cleeeearly show she drives past him. As i've said 200 times already in this thread, both of his feet are outside the path of the vehicle. And then consider, he's holding a phone in one hand -which he doesn't drop- a drawn gun which is being actively discharged, and he's standing on ice. A stiff breeze could have pushed him over, let alone a moving (albeit slowly) vehicle.

Agreed.

Not only that, but as she's reversing, his body leans into that vehicle motion so as to try and incur more guaranteed contact when she tries moving forward. Dude violated everything related to his job responsibility, clearly.

He intentionally antagonized the situation to justify shooting somebody. This psychology is well studied and understood.....even within the DHS.

 

[b34stmode]

She wasn't told to back up nor leave. She was told to exit the vehicle.

He had no right to make her exit her vehicle, she was a lawful US Citizen.

 

[moon to me]

Are you sure?

Damn. That bitch and her "wife" really fucked up. The left will never learn that this isn't a game.

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

Federal agents hold no jurisdiction over state traffic laws. They fucked up.

I'm assuming you're the usual idiot who has no grasp of policy or procedure and hasn't even attempted to read DHS or DOJ policy when it comes to these situations.

No attempt at deescalation, simply aggressive tactics.

They are FEDs, on scene.

They don't need to deescalate people interfering with their OPs. They aren't enforcing traffic laws, they are enforcing their perimeter.
That's why you see the other assholes getting sprayed--- same response to over aggressive public interjection.


These 2 thought they were smart and funny, interjecting themselves into FED Ops... they probably thought they knew policy, also.

 

[Limbo Pete]

He had no right to make her exit her vehicle, she was a lawful US Citizen.

These guys think ICE should be able to go wherever they want, whenever they want, and detain anyone. It's not about immigration, it's about a power fantasy.

 

[kflo]

Yes I know and I even said he was wrong. That doesn’t give her carte blanche

it proves he didn't feel he was in real danger and he put himself in a more dangerous position himself.

it's all about what HE was allowed to do. he can't intentionally put himself into harms way and then claim self defense.

she's not completely innocent, but she's dead. she paid. will he?

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

He had no right to make her exit her vehicle, she was a lawful US Citizen.

They were interfering in a Federal Op, and in the middle of said Op perimeter

 

[b34stmode]

They are FEDs, on scene.

They don't need to deescalate people interfering with their OPs. They aren't enforcing traffic laws, they are enforcing their perimeter.
That's why you see the other assholes getting sprayed--- same response to over aggressive public interjection.


These 2 thought they were smart and funny, interjecting themselves into FED Ops... they probably thought they knew policy, also.

Their boss said they had completed all official duties and were heading back to HQ, they had no active investigation, they had literally ZERO reason to even be talking to her. They aren't and can't enforce traffic violations.

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

it proves he didn't feel he was in real danger and he put himself in a more dangerous position himself.

it's all about what HE was allowed to do. he can't intentionally put himself into harms way and then claim self defense.

she's not completely innocent, but she's dead. she paid. will he?

No, He won't. He defended himself.

 

[kflo]

They are FEDs, on scene.

They don't need to deescalate people interfering with their OPs. They aren't enforcing traffic laws, they are enforcing their perimeter.
That's why you see the other assholes getting sprayed--- same response to over aggressive public interjection.


These 2 thought they were smart and funny, interjecting themselves into FED Ops... they probably thought they knew policy, also.

what ops were they in the middle of performing at that moment?

 

[b34stmode]

They were interfering in a Federal Op, and in the middle of said Op perimeter

No, Kristi their boss is on video saying they had no official investigation because they had just completed one. you are lying or wrong, or both.

 

[Natural Order]

They can arrest you if you're interfering with their duties, said AI on google.

How is she interfering with anything? There's a completely open lane (one-way, two lanes I might add lol) that they could have gone around.

If she had pinned them in directly and they felt literally trapped or at risk of ambush.....no words outta my mouth. But that clearly wasn't the case. So if they had ample space to go around, and aren't in jurisdiction to issue traffic tickets or arrests on American citizens, why did they exit the vehicle in the first place?

This guy is a bad apple bro. It's okay to fire trash on your team to the sideline (or jail in this case).

 

[Azure]

She takes some responsibility of course. Now does the ICE agent take any as well? Why didn't he follow his protocol? Why was he recording the encounter on his CELL PHONE, 2 seconds before shooting her? Why did he get in front of the vehicle, at any point in time, during the entire encounter? What if his cellphone footage shows she never looked at him and never knew he was there?

Read what I wrote

 

[Andy Capp]

You dummies are the first hacks to use the phrase "fuck around and find out".....and have the audacity to bring up Babbitt in some sort of relative comparison. She is LITERALLY the prime definitive example of your daily rationale, yet you attempt to martyr her like a fool.

If you aren't able to understand the very basic differences between the two scenarios, I'm afraid you'll be seated at the children's table next holiday season Whippy.

Jesus Christ man, wtf is wrong with your head? Radiation poisoning?

DTS--Deuterium Thirst Syndrome

 

[Natural Order]

They are FEDs, on scene.

They don't need to deescalate people interfering with their OPs. They aren't enforcing traffic laws, they are enforcing their perimeter.
That's why you see the other assholes getting sprayed--- same response to over aggressive public interjection.


These 2 thought they were smart and funny, interjecting themselves into FED Ops... they probably thought they knew policy, also.

They weren't, there was an entirely 2nd lane open on the one-way street. They weren't blocked anywhere, in any capacity.

Your comparison to actual people in their vicinity as they're arresting people is entirely different and I'm not surprised you believe them to be the same thing.

 

[kflo]

No, He won't. He defended himself.

lol. he didn't defend himself.

him killing her did nothing to "defend himself". he easily moved out of the way of the vehicle he put himself in front of (which you acknowledged) to defend himself. he used lethal force to stop her from getting away.

 

[Rational Poster]

They are FEDs, on scene.

They don't need to deescalate people interfering with their OPs. They aren't enforcing traffic laws, they are enforcing their perimeter.
That's why you see the other assholes getting sprayed--- same response to over aggressive public interjection.


These 2 thought they were smart and funny, interjecting themselves into FED Ops... they probably thought they knew policy, also.

There was no scene, there was no ongoing operation, they were returning to their HQ and a vehicle got stuck in snow. Renee stopped to wait for them to continue moving so she could follow them like she had been doing. She let multiple cars pass while she was stopped waiting for their convoy to continue.

They attacked her for being annoying.

 

[LMP]

Fair, but the other side does it just as equally. No investigation yet, but the governor, mayor, state AG and county attorney had already all called him a murderer the evening of the shooting. Like they are going to be objective in any investigation and actually trying to figure out what happened?

Both sides do it. That is why i find it interesting, because this is the clear strategy for the Trump admin, to just put out this video and make it readily available and let people decide. I mean you all wanted the body cam footage immediately. They released it.

And you may disagree with their take on the shooting, but it is still their strategy. I find it quite bold. Just from the political aspect given it will be a heated midterm election

Yea I acknowledge that its a both side thing, and find it awful for the public.

 

[Ares Black]

Damn. That bitch and her "wife" really fucked up. The left will never learn that this isn't a game.

Then why the fuck are you playing games?

A US citizen was murdered by a federal agent. Stop deepthroating boots and wake the fuck up.