Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

[Roids]

You're a buffoon, as pointed out by others already. You know nothing about PTSD and keep arguing against the direct support of my initial statement.....because ego. Haven't learned much from Bruce, eh?

These are the first 2 points from your own article.

Changes in physical and emotional reactions​

Symptoms of changes in physical and emotional reactions, also called arousal symptoms, may include:

• Being easily startled or frightened.
• Always being on guard for danger.

Explain to me how the officers actions were consistent with that.

 

[Natural Order]

It's not his job to block escaping vehicles by standing in front of them, its literally against policy. You seem to think the PTSD response to being hit by a car is to stand in front of moving vehicles. lmao.

I'm in agreement with you on this. Irrational behaviour from untreated trauma can manifest in all sorts of manners (as explained to you quite clearly by numerous sources). And yet you continue....lmfao.

He wasn't hit by a car. You don't even know the basic facts of what you're trying to argue.

Take a nap you absolute brain-melt.

 

[HereticBD]

there it is. That’s all you had to say

Does it change anything? No.

She hit him, dude. Ain't no "special" video gonna change that.

 

[Natural Order]

These are the first 2 points from your own article.



Explain to me how the officers actions were consistent with that.

Why do they need to be in line with the first two points, when you've been shown there are dozens of ways this can manifest. You've simply reverted to the very thing you were accusing me of. I think you may need to see a psychologist bro lol.

Are you a native English speaker? Nobody can be this dumb.

 

[b34stmode]

So some pixels are making you struggle with the reality of what happened? Maybe if they sharpened it up, it'll show that she was knitting a quilt at the time, or something?

I'm not struggling with anything my guy. I have plenty of footage to see exactly what happened. Your the one that is ignoring the dozen videos showing everything that happened. And using one video that is degraded pixel wise to say she ran him over.

When will the bodycam footage be released??

 

[HereticBD]

I'm not struggling with anything my guy. I have plenty of footage to see exactly what happened.

And what happened? Let us all see your completely accurate breakdown.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

I don't know how it works, can a state demand that footage from a federal agency? That footage needs to be shown.

federal agencies answer to the federal government which supersedes state jurisdiction, essentially. if the feds step in and say "no we won't be doing that" then minnesota is shit out of luck.

 

[Gutter Chris]

This case reminds me of the Ahmed Abrery case a bit. I would love to know how some of these posters felt on that issue. I bet all of them supporting the agent were posting that the father in son were in the right and had the right to do what they did.

Anyone want to take bets on it? Hows the search function work on this site? Is it decent? I might go back through that thread tonight just to see.

I thought the father and son were in the wrong , Rittenhouse was in the right , officer Derek Chauvin was in the wrong and that Ashley babit caused her own death as far as the high profile cases go off the top of my head. You can search if my word isnt good enough . The thread is breaking down by team lines but I usually side with whoever I think was right and have a great track record on being correct because I kind of understand use of of force and am not looking at it from a team perspective and getting emotional.

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

 

[Limbo Pete]

There appears to be cell phone video from the agent who shot her(or I should say the video shows he was taking video literally right up until the shooting getting her from the front). That might give more clues.

I do think she saw him but she was trying to avoid him while fleeing based on her turning that aggressive at the end(but her intent of not trying to hit him doesn't negate what threat he would be interrupting in real time in a split second like that while she is panic fleeing). Theres ice all over the road where he and the SUV are at, shes gunning the SUV to the point the wheels are spinning on ice while turning couple feet from him. Just a clusterfuck of where the agent is and there is a large risk when you attempt to panic flee. Last thing you want to do is attempt to be some half ass first amendment bro thinking you are legally protected to slam the gas and take off in that situation. Yeah that might work. You also might get your head blown off whether its ICE or local police.

"Gunning the SUV"
"slam the gas"
Yeah she tore out of there so fast he was able to fire point blank multiple times while also easily stepping away from the path of the vehicle

 

[Natural Order]

They hired 12000 ICE agents in the last year. I bet the majority are Proud Boy types that now get to play out racist LARPing in real life.

I would like to know the training and credentials of the guy that killed that women. How much you want to bet he was hired in the last year and has shit all experience in law enforcement.

He's a 10 year vet, it isn't because of lack of experience or training. That would be the easier route for the department to explain.

This guy violated everything in their own book.

 

[Roids]

Why do they need to be in line with the first two points, when you've been shown there are dozens of ways this can manifest. You've simply reverted to the very thing you were accusing me of. I think you may need to see a psychologist bro lol.

Are you a native English speaker? Nobody can be this dumb.

Why do they need to be in line with the first two points, when you've been shown there are dozens of ways this can manifest. You've simply reverted to the very thing you were accusing me of. I think you may need to see a psychologist bro lol.

Are you a native English speaker? Nobody can be this dumb.

I listed first two reactions listed in the response section of your article which would be the primary ones so the are quite central. Now instead of deflecting, answer the question i asked and stand by your own article.

 

[Natural Order]

That isn't how it works dude. You can't make a harmless escape when you are being arrested it doesn't matter if it's a felony or a misdemeanor.

And that doesn't look like it's harmless to me it looks like she was in the process of driving into the agent that was moving to the front of the vehicle to cut her off and he shot her for doing just that. He isn't obligated to let her go because she doesn't feel like being arrested and he isn't obligated to not use force because whatever she did isn't a capital offense.

They never once said that she's under arrest as far as I'm aware. They simply said "get out of the fucking car". Anybody have video of them declaring arrest?

 

[Natural Order]

I listed first two reactions listed in the response section of your article which would be the primary ones so the are quite central. Now instead of deflecting, answer the question i asked and stand by your own article.

You're a joke bro. You seeing this @HereticBD? rofl


AI Overview



Yes, people with PTSD can unconsciously seek out or reenact trauma through "repetition compulsion," driven by a subconscious attempt to master or resolve the original event, or because triggers make it feel like it's happening again (retraumatization). This often manifests as repeating dangerous relationships, addictive behaviors, or stressful situations, as the brain links current experiences to past trauma, leading to a desire for resolution or a heightened state of arousal that seeks similar intensity.

Why it happens

• Repetition Compulsion: A Freudian concept where people unconsciously repeat traumatic experiences to try and gain control or closure, though it usually leads to more distress.
• Retraumatization: Triggers (sounds, smells, emotions) can cause flashbacks, making the past trauma feel like the present, leading to intense symptoms.
• Brain & Body Response: Trauma creates strong memory links; current stress can activate these, causing a return to old behaviors as the brain tries to process the past.
• Vulnerability: Past trauma can increase vulnerability to similar abuse or situations later in life, affecting judgment and attachment.
• Altered Standards: The intense sensations from past trauma, addiction, or stress can shift a person's baseline, leading them to seek similar feelings.

How it looks

• Repeating harmful relationship patterns (e.g., abusive partners).
• Engaging in risky behaviors or substance use.
• Feeling constantly on edge and seeking situations that require hypervigilance.

What helps

• Therapy: Psychoanalysis or psychotherapy helps work through and integrate past trauma, stopping reenactments.
• Trauma-Informed Care: Understanding triggers and developing coping strategies is crucial.
• Self-Understanding: Recognizing these patterns and seeking safe ways to process them is key.

This literally proves everything I initially hyopthesized as correct. You're an insufferable lying prick with zero humility to admit error.

 

[Roids]

@Roids

Do you want to keep taking the beating or do you have any humility?





AI Overview



Yes, people with PTSD can unconsciously seek out traumatic situations or relationships
, a phenomenon known as trauma reenactment or repetition compulsion, often driven by a subconscious attempt to gain mastery, resolve the past, or because their distorted sense of safety leads them to familiar, painful patterns, making them vulnerable to similar abuse or high-stress situations. Triggers from the original trauma can also cause intense flashbacks, making the past feel like it's happening now, which is a form of retraumatization.
Why Trauma Reenactment Happens:

• Unconscious Drive: The mind may unconsciously try to "fix" or resolve an unresolved past trauma by re-experiencing it, seeking a different outcome.
• Altered Standards: After experiencing intense addiction or trauma, a person's baseline for "normal" sensations or relationship dynamics can shift, leading them to seek similar, intense feelings.
• Attachment Issues: Trauma can create confusion between pain and love, leading to strong attachments with threatening people, as the brain seeks connection even if it's painful.
• Vulnerability: Past trauma can increase vulnerability to future abuse, making revictimization more likely, especially with underlying issues like depression or dissociation.

How It Manifests:

• Repeating Bad Relationships: Engaging in cycles of unhealthy or abusive relationships.
• Substance Use: Seeking intense highs and lows similar to those experienced during active addiction.
• High-Arousal Situations: Seeking out danger or high-alert states due to a persistent hyperarousal from PTSD.

Retraumatization (Flashbacks):

• Triggers (sounds, smells, emotions) can cause a person with PTSD to have intense flashbacks, feeling as though the traumatic event is happening in the present moment.

What Helps:

• Psychotherapy: Working through the trauma in therapy helps resolve and integrate past experiences, stopping reenactments.
• Understanding Triggers: Identifying and managing triggers is crucial to reduce flashbacks and emotional distress.
• Safe Processing: Techniques like trauma-focused therapies (e.g., EMDR, Rewind Therapy) help process trauma in a controlled, safe way, reducing its power.

Trauma reenactment is a long-term psychological pattern, usually seen in relationships or repeated life choices not an acute explanation for a high-risk tactical decision in a single incident. It involves passive vulnerability over time, not sustained, deliberate physical escalation. You are wrong at every level and desperately trying to be right. That's a psychological case study itself. To summarize. PTSD response is to avoid standing in front of a motor vehicle, yet he did the opposite because he had zero fear or PTSD.

 

[Hog-train]

Yes and if you went up half a block there were people being arrested or removed regularly
Get your head out of the internet's asshole

There was a 4 block radius where there was no cops for months. Stop lying.

And the quality is still degraded. Why would you use that video when we have multiple high definition ones with audio as well that shows the entire altercation?


When do you think they will release the bodycam footage from the agent?

Because it was at a different angle where the second ICE agent isn't partially obstructing the view. It's obvious that was a home security camera based on the distance. You people love lying don't you?

Can't just call a spade a spade.

 

[Natural Order]

Trauma reenactment is a long-term psychological pattern, usually seen in relationships or repeated life choices not an acute explanation for a high-risk tactical decision in a single incident. It involves passive vulnerability over time, not sustained, deliberate physical escalation. You are wrong at every level and desperately trying to be right. That's a psychological case study itself. To summarize. PTSD response is to avoid standing in front of a motor vehicle, yet he did the opposite because he had zero fear or PTSD.

You have no idea what you're talking about whatsoever in this realm. It's quite blatant and I'm embarrassed for you.

You thought I was defending his actions and excusing ICE....and now have no other option than to continue looking like an absolute moron to try and save face.

 

[HereticBD]

There was a 4 block radius where there was no cops for months. Stop lying.

That's all he does, and then when you have him cornered, he just fucks off.

Totally worthless poster. Don't waste your time.

 

[Limbo Pete]

There was a 4 block radius where there was no cops for months. Stop lying.

I literally, personally watched Portland PD arrest people half a block from ICE. They were in that area constantly, in particular the intersection up the street.

 

[Hog-train]

I literally, personally watched Portland PD arrest people half a block from ICE. They were in that area constantly, in particular the intersection up the street.

Yea that's right now - these days. The protests started June of last year. There's literal video proof of no cops night after night for months.

But you dishonestly selectively read and pretend ignorance.