Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

[Roids]

Opinion on a bullet stopping a vehicle at that distance is not what the objective reasonable test would be. There are instances of officers not even getting prosecuted let alone being found not guilty for worst than what we saw.

Is there a reasonable expectation the agent felt a threat from the vehicle and then about the ability to move out of the path of the vehicle. As soon as you are in a territory of an officer directly in front of a vehicle that launches at him its a very strong defense. Its clear from the video the there was a threat with the vehicle and being that close while also with the agent standing on what looks like a sheet of ice on the road so that is probably going to be a strong argument for his defense. If you think thats completely wrong and its a 100% slam dunk hes going to be guilty I mean I don't know what to tell you. Again we will find out clearly to see if you are right here and if more video shows up but I cant see how anyone reasonable can be sure on that outcome unless its just strong bias.

How is it a strong defense when the officer deliberately stepped in front of the vehicle? That is the key point you seem to be missing, he chose to put himself in danger, so he can't claim self defense, and if he felt in danger he could have just stepped out of the way which is what any reasonable person would do. The moment the car moved forward he STOOD STILL AND PULLED HIS WEAPON, when he could have easily stepped aside which he did eventually. His actions were inconsistent with self defense.

Do you know anyone who would remain standing in front of a car coming towards them? No they simply move. I am not speaking about the outcome of the case at all because the system is so corrupt, but that says nothing about what should happen. He should be convicted of murder but he probably won't even be charged because he will be protected.

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

Bro, I literally think it was a bad shoot. LMAO

Dude has obviously never visited the what did the cops do wrong today thread lol

 

[snugglecakes]

thats like saying if u shoot at a cop and they matrix dodge jump the bullet... they have no right to return fire.

she tried to keel a federal officer. Just cause she failed doesn't put her in the clear. SHe began accelerating forward "BEFORE" he dodged it.

she was fucking with ice all day with the intention of trying to bait "excessive" force clips

 

[HereticBD]

They are killing US citizens with no bodycams and have the VP telling the nation they have immunty to shoot and kill US Citizens. Our Country is COOKED.

Just stop with that hysterical nonsense. This shooting is far more complex than you're making it out to be. If you have a problem with it, that's fine, but if you want to play stupid games and insinuate that ICE agents are just popping folks on the street for no reason at the behest of the VP, you're not gonna find much common ground with anybody, but radical leftist retards.

 

[UberHere]

He had zero reason to be there. He put himself in harm's way and then killed two people.

Neither did those two people

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

This clip settles all reasonable debate.

That’s not even the incident is it?
I question it because in this video the road is clear of snow.

Edit- never mind, I thought there was more snow on the road in the first one I watched.

Which brings a new question, who the fuck gets stuck in that little snow??

 

[Roids]

You're arguing with someone on your side. This "purity test/pseudo psychiatrist" shit that you're currently running on him, is why you lose people. He's being reasonable. You're being a fucking twat.

Unlike you I don't believe in sides, this is not a team sport, loser. He is laughably wrong. He thinks people with PTSD from a specific event, will run towards it and repeat it. Literally the opposite PTSD reaction. It's one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard.

 

[Natural Order]

You picked 1 general symptom of anger and completely ignored the broader aspects of PTSD reactions which is clearly explained as fear, fright and avoidance of the same traumatic event. Someone having PTSD from being hit by a car would be scared and cautious around cars. The agents actions showed no fear, they were the opposite of risk avoidance and fear.

You're such a dishonest hack. That's what you did.

I explained that PTSD trauma can show itself in dozens of odd ways. Anger is one of the more common, particularly amongst men of this profession. You still haven't read anything. Nobody said anything about fear. Irrational behaviour is the symptom of PTSD....you're trying to pretend like somebody unhealthy has clarity of their trauma and automatically avoids. How does a guy who works around vehicles and people in them avoid a situation that might trigger his PTSD of people not following instruction?

Man you're dumb as dirt and embarrasing yourself.

 

[Natural Order]

Unlike you I don't believe in sides, this is not a team sport, loser. He is laughably wrong. He thinks people with PTSD from a specific event, will run towards it and repeat it. Literally the opposite PTSD reaction. It's one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard.

Nobody said run to it. If it's his job and he hasn't dealt with it properly, he has no other option than to deal with similar situations. Only this time he's pissed about being put into something similar.

It's one of the dumbest things you've ever heard because you know NOTHING about it, as evidenced by your continued absurd takes that everybody can see.

 

[HereticBD]

Unlike you I don't believe in sides

Oh', Bull-fucking-shit. Your whole meltdown here, is because the guy won't 100% agree with you, and you've already tossed labels around as to why that is.

You're on a side, buddy. A very fucking dumb and irrational leftist side.

 

[PeterGriffin]

You're in Nova Scotia too. We could meet up sometime, have a brew and solve the world's problems!

Oh shit, that's right.

Valley, right?

Nope I'm in Sack Vegas! Some woman brought me to these parts....

Fuck me.

I'm in Sprytown, lmfao. Let's hope there's fucking no one from Truro and Glace Bay. It'd be a super disaster.

But there is a Valley guy here too, and now I'll be trying to remember who that guy was. It's not that Halifax fella, I think he's down on the South Shore, he said that dog attack was down his way.

 

[Ares Black]

Neither did those two people

It was their hometown. And they had a right to protest.

Bootlicker.

 

[AmonTobin]

Do yourself a favor... Go type "Can federal agents stop, give lawful orders to, and defend themselves with lethal force against persons they don't know their citizenship status?"

And cut & paste the answer in this thread.

Go ahead and do it.

Maybe you'll figure out why everyone that knows anything about the law considers you retarded for honestly posting that assertion as if it was fact.

What “lawful order” would you follow in her situation? The officer that screamed at her to get out of her car or the officer that screamed at her to get the fuck out of here?

Are you sure you’d know what to do if someone pointed a gun at your face while another guy was reaching into your open window?

I know you think there’s “nothing to see here” and that’s quite chilling in itself, considering this is front page international news.

 

[PeterGriffin]

Sure. No way would TPTB use Craigslist Ad's and/or Paid Crisis Actors to star in a pre-planned "Watch This" moment.

Watch the ties to the mysterio Alfa Bit Players- some of the same J6 Actors and crew WILL show up.

Picture being married and walking on a street anywhere. Then by sheer coincidence, your SO is at the exact time recording the SO on a public road in their family SUV.

The entire incident is captured (Before, During, and After) by the new funddmee widow/er. The video will show she ain't did nothing, that's why it was released.

In the future, if you need to hire a WTF WTF WTF cackling soundbite look no further.

2020 Summer of MSM Mostly Peaceful Protests showed Kyle issued major restraint in a lawless situation. PLENTY of videos are online showing he was in a sea of people and only shot those attacking him.

I literally giggled out loud at the thought of paid crisis actors, made me instantly think of the movie The Hunt. My wife must have watched that movie a dozen times.

 

[Natural Order]

Oh shit, that's right.

Valley, right?

Fuck me.

I'm in Sprytown, lmfao. Let's hope there's fucking no one from Truro and Glace Bay. It'd be a super disaster.

But there is a Valley guy here too, and now I'll be trying to remember who that guy was. It's not that Halifax fella, I think he's down on the South Shore, he said that dog attack was down his way.

I think you're thinking of @r-harper-1. Pretty sure that cat lives in the Valley.

Tragic event in Shelburne. Makes my blood boil.

 

[Hog-train]

This is absolute nonsense. The cops were around that area constantly. I saw them, physically and in person, with my own eyes.

They're there now. They weren't there for months. The protests there started in June of 2025 and the 4 block radius around the ICE facility there was a no cop zone.

"A Portland police commander testified on the first day of trial that police officers have been instructed not to facilitate federal vehicles coming in and out of the ICE facility due to the state’s sanctuary law. Police also were directed not to provide traffic control in the “immediate area” of the ICE building unless there was an immediate life-safety emergency or to support a tactical operation."

"Cantu said he was disappointed by a lack of response and assistance from Portland police, estimating that police did not respond 40 times to requests by Federal Protective Service officers who reached out for help since June at the ICE building."

Federal officials testify Portland police failed to protect ICE building amid protests

But the surge of federal officers to guard the building — dubbed “Operation Skip Jack Portland” — is unsustainable, they said.

www.oregonlive.com

 

[Roids]

You're such a dishonest hack. That's what you did.

I explained that PTSD trauma can show itself in dozens of odd ways. Anger is one of the more common, particularly amongst men of this profession. You still haven't read anything. Nobody said anything about fear. Irrational behaviour is the symptom of PTSD....you're trying to pretend like somebody unhealthy has clarity of their trauma and automatically avoids. How does a guy who works around vehicles and people in them avoid a situation that might trigger his PTSD of people not following instruction?

'irrational behaviour' is not even stated in your link, Nor does it say trauma can show itself in 'odd ways'. Nor does it say anger is the most common symptom. You are just making things up. You don't seem to understand fear, stress and risk avoidance are central to PTSD response, meaning they avoid the trigger. Angry is a general symptom along with poor sleep, but that's got nothing to do with his response to that situation. You think he has PTSD from people not following instructions? lmao

 

[Fedor>Cain]

What “lawful order” would you follow in her situation? The officer that screamed at her to get out of her car or the officer that screamed at her to get the fuck out of here?

Are you sure you’d know what to do if someone pointed a gun at your face while another guy was reaching into your open window?

I know you think there’s “nothing to see here” and that’s quite chilling in itself, considering this is front page international news.

These people are fucking retarded. The world watches this shit like they watched the COVID videos of Chinese citizens getting dragged into trucks and shit.

 

[HockeyBjj]

This clip settles all reasonable debate.

How many times are you and your crew going to shared this doctored video thinking it’s the real thing?

When you have to fake the evidence to make it look justified, that means it’s not justified on its own merits.

 

[bubbleboyjones]

The woman most likely didn't even see the agent who shot her. We will never know because ICE agents don't have bodycams.

There appears to be cell phone video from the agent who shot her(or I should say the video shows he was taking video literally right up until the shooting getting her from the front). That might give more clues.

I do think she saw him but she was trying to avoid him while fleeing based on her turning that aggressive at the end(but her intent of not trying to hit him doesn't negate what threat he would be interrupting in real time in a split second like that while she is panic fleeing). Theres ice all over the road where he and the SUV are at, shes gunning the SUV to the point the wheels are spinning on ice while turning couple feet from him. Just a clusterfuck of where the agent is and there is a large risk when you attempt to panic flee. Last thing you want to do is attempt to be some half ass first amendment bro thinking you are legally protected to slam the gas and take off in that situation. Yeah that might work. You also might get your head blown off whether its ICE or local police.