Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

[Rational Poster]

Are you trying to claim she didn't hit him with the car?

No part of his body that he doesn't place in the car himself was touched.

 

[Other]

Damn, that music is proof that it's all about hate.

Jesus y'all are some cold ass people.

 

[Mr Holmes]

So why do you think ashli was climbing through the window? What do you think her goal was? Do you think she had an intent?

She was just protesting.

 

[HockeyBjj]

This is sped up to intentionally make it look worse than it was

Stop falling for fake news

 

[Alpha_T83]

A unhinged woman fleeing from arrest in a residential area is a clear and present danger to anyone. As per this, regardless of if the agent himself thought he was in danger, which also makes it irrelevant if he “put himself in her way” or not is also irrelevant. If he felt her speeding off is a danger to anyone, including pedestrians, other drivers, etc, he is within his right and duty

If she continued and ran a stop sign, crashing into a car and killing that person.

Simple as

a. Fleeing Subjects: Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject. However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject where the LEO has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the LEO or others and such force is necessary to prevent escape.

Where did you get that quote?

1-16.000 - Department of Justice Policy On Use Of Force

www.justice.gov

"1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect."

 

[Scott Stapp]

https://www.justice.gov/archives/ag/file/1220256-0/dl?inline

This says 2022. They'll blame the previous administration.

 

[Ares Black]

Cocklicker

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Bootlicker.

 

[SurferH2O]

Wow... they have so many angles. That one definitely proves that she hit him. What most people don't know is that another vehicle hit him with a vehicle and hospitalized him months ago.

She needed to shut it all down, but she chose another path.

 

[Natural Order]

Where did I say they had a right to stop her from traffic violations?

How do you flee arrest from people who can't arrest you, dummy?

 

[Ares Black]

What a complete fucking loser

 

[Hog-train]

No part of his body that he doesn't place in the car himself was touched.

This amount of biased gaslighting just makes people angry. We have eyeballs dude. You're full of shit.

Here is the video SLOWED DOWN. Second video from top.

The car hits him in the torso and lower body.

This is sped up to intentionally make it look worse than it was

Stop falling for fake news

Video above shows it slowed down. The agent was indeed hit by the car.

 

[Ares Black]

A unhinged woman fleeing from arrest in a residential area is a clear and present danger to anyone. As per this, regardless of if the agent himself thought he was in danger, which also makes it irrelevant if he “put himself in her way” or not is also irrelevant. If he felt her speeding off is a danger to anyone, including pedestrians, other drivers, etc, he is within his right and duty

If she continued and ran a stop sign, crashing into a car and killing that person.

Simple as

a. Fleeing Subjects: Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject. However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject where the LEO has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the LEO or others and such force is necessary to prevent escape.

Lol you are such a shameless bootlicker. How pathetic.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Also, I still haven't seen any commentary from you about the DHS order to LEOs to avoid putting themselves into situations where they have no alternative to using deadly force, like putting themselves in front of someone's car. (Unless you responded about that to someone else and I missed it)

If he felt she was a threat to others, that completely negates this last part of your post. Because it isn’t about himself at all, it is about other potential victims.

And like if she wasn’t shot, you really think she is going to maintain speed limited stop, obey all traffic signs and signals, etc, as she flees arrest? Of course not. Especially in a residential area where pedestrians are common, cross sections without traffic lights, etc, she could be seen as a clear and present danger. He only had a split second to act

I do wish more video was available prior to the incident to see how aggressive she was through out their operations and such. To better assess their cause to want to detain her. If threats of detaining her if she didn’t move were given, etc

 

[Scott Stapp]

What a complete fucking loser

Career in the toilet and needs the $40/week from Twitter ads.

 

[nhbbear]

This seems very similar to this case - https://www.dispatch.com/story/news...-takiya-kiya-young-columbus-ohio/70680484007/

The cops were completely exonerated.

Sorry to again respond to this one, but I did a deeper dive on this because I had some questions that needed answered.

Yes, there is a lawsuit pending of course and we all knew there would be when the family had an attorney a few days after the incident. The lawsuit names the township, the police chief-who was in no way involved here, the police officer,-both of whom should have had qualified immunity from a personal lawsuit against their personal finances, and Kroger (because they have very deep pockets) and the employee that told the cops and pointed her out. The lawsuit claims that the Kroger employee was not a loss prevention officer and was thus not permitted to call or notify police of a shoplifting. It also claims that by pursuing the suspect and notifying armed police officers, the employee “escalated the situation that the employee should have known would lead to death.”

That lawyer has already blatantly lied. He said the officers had absolutely no right to approach her because there was no evidence that she had committed a crime and he stated to the media that young DID NOT COMMIT ANY CRIMES AND PUT THE ALCOHOL BACK AND DIS NOT LEAVE THE STORE WITH IT: This has been proven false in two ways-first, we have the video where she conceals the alcohol. I actually don’t know for sure about Ohio, but most states consider it shoplifting if you conceal items even if you haven’t left the store yet; but the video shows her walking out of the store and at no point did she stop and put the alcohol back or did she stop and put the alcohol down before leaving like the shitbag vulture of a lawyer claimed.

Second point-she intended to steal from the word go. First, she took off her license plate before going into the Kroger lot so she and her car couldn’t be identified via camera or an employee. She also parks in a handicapped parking spot because it was close so she could easily flee:. And she went into the store with a group of females all of wh stole alcohol as well.

The grand jury indicted officer connor grubb despite having the videos-the body cameras of both officers plus a video from the Kroger store that shows grubb being lifted off his feet when she drives into him.

Because of the indictment-despite his being innocent until proven guilty-2 things happened. 1. The township put the officer on unpaid leave when he was initially put on paid leave while it was being investigated. They also cited budgetary issues as well. 2. Because he was now on unpaid leave, he lost his qualified immunity-more on that in a moment.

An Ohio court denied officer grubb be protected under Marsy’s law. I was just talking about marsys law in another thread like two days ago or something-can’t quite recall; but anyway, the law basically guarantees victims rights like the right to a speedy trial so defense can’t wear down victims and witnesses, the right to remain silent as a victim in regard to peripheral crimes, and it protects the victims identity-especially children and rape victims, but a hot topic has been whether police officers identities can be protected and can officers be considered victims while on the job and thus protected by marsys law. The police dept refused to identify the officers because grubb was hit by the car and the other officers arm was inside the car when she started to drive. Well, in all its wisdom, this court ruled that grubb was not a victim of any crimes despite her hitting him with the car and lifting him off of his feet, so the dept had to release their names-it wouldn’t have lasted long anyway since he was indicted-but found not guilty of all charges.

Had grubb been convicted of any of the charges against him, he would have faced a MINIMUM of 15 years in prison. Fucking ridiculous. It’s been 2.5 years almost and grubb is still not back to work and only recently (November after the acquittal) was put back on paid leave. Dude has been in limbo with no income for over two years-fucking ridiculous.

Anyway, that is all.

 

[Ares Black]

If he felt she was a threat to others, that completely negates this last part of your post. Because it isn’t about himself at all, it is about other potential victims.

And like if she wasn’t shot, you really think she is going to maintain speed limited stop, obey all traffic signs and signals, etc, as she flees arrest? Of course not. Especially in a residential area where pedestrians are common, cross sections without traffic lights, etc, she could be seen as a clear and present danger. He only had a split second to act

I do wish more video was available prior to the incident to see how aggressive she was through out their operations and such. To better assess their cause to want to detain her. If threats of detaining her if she didn’t move were given, etc

A woman was murdered and you are desperately trying to justify it

 

[Satanical Eve]

Do you people know anything about shooting? No one holds a gun out and points it perpendicular to themselves to fire. Thats one of the 10 dumbest things that I've read on this board.

The video doesn't lie and he shot her from the driver side of the SUV when he was out of harms way. Stop lying

 

[Deaths Head]

Great choice, but I venture to suggest this would be equally appropriate

Maybe if it was on a highway but shoot to thrill fits the actual narrative.

Marylyn Manson Highway To Hell still the best though .

 

[cottagecheesefan]

How do you flee arrest from people who can't arrest you, dummy?

Why cant they arrest her for obstructing their operations and then fleeing arrest?

 

[Natural Order]

Wow... they have so many angles. That one definitely proves that she hit him. What most people don't know is that another activist hit him with a vehicle and hospitalized him months ago.

She needed to shut it all down, but she chose another path.

He was dragged (not hit) by a vehicle (immigration stop, not protestor) and likely was no longer in mental capacity to deal with motorists whatsoever (understandably, that would be highly traumatic). It's why his gun was drawn prior to any semblance of a need for a gun. No rational capability. Not to mention ZERO jurisdiction on a traffic issue.

I agree her own stupidity contributed in part....but it by no means was the root cause.

Wake the fuck up Whippy and stop being suck a bootlicker for clear police aggression and incompetence.