Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

[KnightTemplar]

Tim Waltz is readying the national guard against ICE.

 

[Natural Order]

This is a horrible angle

Front angle


She hit the cops

Found out

It's true, I'm not sure what these people are watching. She most certainly accelerated into an agent and physically hit him.

However, if you care to read DHS protocol, that officer did everything INCORRECTLY given the situation. He created his own situation and took advantage of it to shoot.

This is PRECISELY the scenario that the policy was written for.

Two absolute STOOGES. Just another day in the USA.

 

[LMP]

Here’s the original


Doesn’t change the fact

It changes a lot, one loses frames the original loses the narrative you were trying to frame. The dude walks from the back of her vehicle on the passenger side to the front, while she is dealing with the other agent at her driver side door. What you are trying to do is pant this as proof off her intending to hit him to justify the case. What is clear is his actions put him in the direct line of conflict with the vehicle and he did so in the dumbest way possible.

 

[Prefect]

This is a horrible angle

Front angle


She hit the cops

Found out

Yeah, the pedal basically dropped after she was shot in the head.

 

[Natural Order]

Why post a video that has been sped up?

You guys need to stop defending the idea that she didn't accelerate and hit an officer. It's bullshit. She did.

However, the root of this situation lies at the feet of ICE and improper conduct. Both of these things can be true, and unfortunate.

 

[Rational Poster]

It's true, I'm not sure what these people are watching. She most certainly accelerated into an agent and physically hit him.

However, if you care to read DHS protocol, that officer did everything INCORRECTLY given the situation. He created his own situation and took advantage of it to shoot.

This is PRECISELY the scenario that the policy was written for.

Two absolute STOOGES. Just another day in the USA.

Based on what was going on I don't even think she was aware that guy was there, she was clearly distracted by the other officers yelling and reaching into her car.

At the start of the video he was behind her vehicle talking to her partner, she never actually saw him.

 

[LMP]

You guys need to stop defending the idea that she didn't accelerate and hit an officer. It's bullshit. She did.

However, the root of this situation lies at the feet of ICE and improper conduct. Both of these things can be true, and unfortunate.

Oh you are right, we should gladly accept that the agent should have blown her brains out.

 

[Prefect]

It changes a lot, one loses frames the original loses the narrative you were trying to frame. The dude walks from the back of her vehicle on the passenger side to the front, while she is dealing with the other agent at her driver side door. What you are trying to do is pant this as proof off her intending to hit him to justify the case. What is clear is his actions put him in the direct line of conflict with the vehicle and he did so in the dumbest way possible.

Cops intentionally do this to give reason to escalate things and tack on serious charges. No normal human being in any other situation is going to move to stand in front of a vehicle that they are hoping will stop.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Haven't actually seen a thread yet, which is bizarre.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/video-shows-moment-ice-agent-fatally-shot-woman-in-minneapolis

It's unreal that the government would defend it without a second thought, too, no investigation, no time taken to assess all the details, just going with a generic claim that scarcely appears feasible from the video:



The Department of Homeland Security described the incident as an "act of domestic terrorism" and said the ICE agent "saved his own life and that of his fellow officers."
Surreal.

Turn off the lights, America is absolutely done.
Do not dare protest.
Do not disrupt.
Do not stand up.

How do you even use the verb „executed“ in that context? Excessive force maybe, trigger-happy possibly, but „execution“?

Words have meaning you know ?

 

[44nutman]

The agent who shot the woman did everything the OPPOSITE of what their own internal documents advise and allow as protocol.

Internal investigations by DHS indicated that most vehicle shootings were as a result of dumb agents stepping in front of fleeing vehicles, so as to provide a situation for them to fire their weapons.

Pathetic state of affairs.

According to some MAGA doggers on here, you should be shot for blowing a whistle. A whistle supposedly impedes investigations. Pretty soon protests will be outlawed. Somewhere Thomas Paine is spinning in his grave. I bet he never envisioned a police state.

 

[Natural Order]

Oh you are right, we should gladly accept that the agent should have blown her brains out.

Is that what I said, dummy?

You're inability to look at the situation properly is showing.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I think they were following them around jeering so people would be aware they were around. Not sure if that constitutes hindering or just legal protesting.

Legally, you can do that as long as you don't physically get in the way of arrests or investigations. So if you're physically in they way and they ask you to move, you gotta. But you dont have to completely leave the area iirc. Just stay a reasonable distance away.

Its like notifying people of speed traps or telling people theres cops 2 blocks down. You're under no legal obligation to silently watch police or federal agents work. You can swear at them and do whatever you want as long as you dont get physical or make a clear threat

 

[Hellowhosthat]

You guys need to stop defending the idea that she didn't accelerate and hit an officer. It's bullshit. She did.

However, the root of this situation lies at the feet of ICE and improper conduct. Both of these things can be true, and unfortunate.

She definitely accelerated but I don't think her intention was to hit the officer and getting glanced by a car speeding away is not the same as being mowed down directly. Her intention was to flee. Even if he'd put himself in the situation and someone wants to excuse the first shot I don't think how someone can do the mental gymnastics to justify the subsequent shots made through the side window.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I was against the murder of Kirk and I posted as such in the thread. Not everyone is glued to the left or right wing and feels they have to stick with their talking points whether they agree or not.

Who do you mean by "You guys", people who disagree with shooting people at point blank range.

He's a political radical. In his view the left/libs are to be scorned.

 

[Rational Poster]

You guys need to stop defending the idea that she didn't accelerate and hit an officer. It's bullshit. She did.

However, the root of this situation lies at the feet of ICE and improper conduct. Both of these things can be true, and unfortunate.

Also I would disagree with this, he made first contact with her truck with his arms and was pushed off when she tried pulling away, her wheels were clearly turned away from both officers.

 

[sickc0d3r]

If anything the police need more funding so people will actually want to do the job and they can weed out the trigger happy knuckleheads and cowards

100%. Helping police with specialists to relieve some of their everyday duties isn't even a bad idea, but calling it "defund the police" was monumentally stupid. We should be funding and training police, and getting them out in communities as friends of the law abiding public.

 

[Natural Order]

Based on what was going on I don't even think she was aware that guy was there, she was clearly distracted by the other officers yelling and reaching into her car.

At the start of the video he was behind her vehicle talking to her partner, she never actually saw him.

She didn't. I agree. She was fleeing in fear and it was all within a matter of 2 seconds.

The ICE agent avoided internal policy by putting himself directly in line with a potentially moving vehicle. There was no need for any weapons drawn or for them to surround a vehicle in that manner.

The whole situation is very sad.

 

[Scott Stapp]

You guys need to stop defending the idea that she didn't accelerate and hit an officer. It's bullshit. She did.

However, the root of this situation lies at the feet of ICE and improper conduct. Both of these things can be true, and unfortunate.

If she intended to hit him, why torque the wheel in the exact opposite direction he was standing?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

He's a political radical. In his view the left/libs are to be scorned.

I don't even consider myself particularly left wing tbh. I am on environmental issues and social medicine etc but I'm anti-immigration and pro-life (apart from rape or really bad genetic defects).

 

[Anewt]

Well, the cop very obviously did not have to kill that woman. I think people would just like to see the tiniest level of respect for human life from people we entrust with our lives and our rights in public areas. Even when the life might belong to a stupid or annoying person. And some people got a little angry that the president and the director of ice rushed to tell us outright lies about what happened, before they even actually knew what happened themselves, because they care more about politics than determining whether or not a citizen was unnecessarily shot.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

Oh thats all understandable. Its a tragic outcome.

Yes your goverment and media lies .... a lot.