With his insane cardio, why isnt Cain ripped?

[Senzo Tanaka]

No PED's, normal people who just train look like him more or less.

This. Most normal people who train and don't have help pretty much look like Cain. I have better muscle definition than Cain but I look nowhere near someone like Vitor.

Cain has a bit of fat on him but that's normal. People are too conditioned to seeing guys dehydrated and/or pumped the next night and thinking that's what they look like 365 days a year. Cain has a real athletes body.

 

[immy92]

he and the others making taco bell jokes are just being racist. (mexicans arent a race, I know. Its a nationality)

I dont mind it, just not original or funny is all

a sonnen fan talking about racist

 

[SmilesNCries**]

Tell me one thing, when you are typing are you having a seizure? I see a lot of "What was that? Can't hear you? Oh yeah, did you twist your point again?" nonsense. Calm down boy for fuck sake. We are on a msg board haha.

Now if you are completely relaxed and calm, we can continiue with this debate. First of all I have absolutely zero interest in anecdotal evidence as it is utterly useless. What is your definition of body type? Are you saying that shaquille o'neal and a pygmy have the same type of body?





I have no idea who the guy is so how do you determine that I would call him an endomorph?

What are you talking about? I keep destroying you and all you have to do is critique my rhetoric? Bro, stick to your mouse study that suggests somatotypes exist. I don't need an article to prove it either. It's kind of like saying the sun isn't a planet and someone saying "well prove it". It is beyond unnecessary

 

[Barry Lyndon]

Similar situation with Fedor.

He had pretty sick cardio and was a work-out-a-holic. Never saw him "ripped", but man did Fedya look like a beast in his prime.

 

[Darkeonz]

What are you talking about? I keep destroying you and all you have to do is critique my rhetoric? Bro, stick to your mouse study that suggests somatotypes exist. I don't need an article to prove it either. It's kind of like saying the sun isn't a planet and someone saying "well prove it". It is beyond unnecessary

Well nobody here is denying that the sun isn't a planet. So clearly it is not as obvious as you want it to be. I might as well say that denying that people have different body types is like denying that the sun exist. See how I did what you just did? Completely useless debate strategy.

Btw. I find your signature hysterically ironic :-D

"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."

 

[campbecc]

he doesn't do crunches and sit-ups? other than his abdominals, he's pretty chiseled.

I guarantee he does a hell of a lot of ab work otherwise he'd get destroyed by body shots.

 

[lildog]

Dem Mexican genes. Seriously, I've never seen a fit Mexican who had the same skeletal sctructure as a guy like Cain. Their body types are either short and skinny or short and fat, lol. An exception being Cain or Chris Areola who are above average height, but are STILL fat.

They must have the worst genes for fatty tissue, next too Samoans.

Pettis is 50% Mexican. Neither fat nor short.

 

[MusterX]

Pettis is 50% Mexican. Neither fat nor short.

Pettis is 5'9".

 

[Winbot]

Part genetics, part diet. Some people are just much more prone genetically to putting fat on, its not necessarily a bad thing. 10-12% body fat is plenty healthy on an adult male. That's not to say Cain couldn't drop to 6-8% if he wanted to, only that it would probably be extremely difficult for him to do that because it would require a diet that involved almost no fats and an extremely controlled amount of carbs. It might get to a point where the diet he would need to be on to achieve those results would actually negatively impact his athletic performance.

tl:dr Cain is predominantly an Endomorph, he will never meet societies standards of what an athlete is supposed to look like and, it doesn't fucking mater.

 

[Calivornia]

I guarantee he does a hell of a lot of ab work otherwise he'd get destroyed by body shots.

that's a good point. it's odd, everytime we see him fight, he appears to me to be less and less muscular. obviously having big muscles isn't terribly important to his style. but I wonder at what point will someone be able to push him around?

 

[kebab]

Well nobody here is denying that the sun isn't a planet. So clearly it is not as obvious as you want it to be. I might as well say that denying that people have different body types is like denying that the sun exist. See how I did what you just did? Completely useless debate strategy.

Btw. I find your signature hysterically ironic :-D

"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."

He's right though, there are no body types as in endo/meso/ecto.

 

[echohead]

All that ripped look comes from is diet not even really exercise to a point. I have dieted down before and it isn't like I suddenly got stronger than I was, if I was a HW I would just stay at a comfortable weight and work on strength and technique.

 

[JiuJizzle]

Phil Baroni probably had one of the most chiseled frames in UFC history.

Also has one of the worse gas tanks in UFC history.

 

[Tony65]

I think genetics and the type of training he is doing. Plus, I don't think he is taking steroids. You don't need to be ripped to be strong and have endurance.

 

[purpleheart]

Bodyfatt has absolutely nothing to do with having a solid gastank besides the extra (or less for that mather) weight you carry.

Muscle fibers, atp, red bloodcell count etc etc. Countless factors involved.

Take a look at Fedor for example;25% bodyfatt, cardio for days.

Roadwork for boxing assistance is a lot easier for me when i have higher bodyfatt. The more shizzled i get the less of a gastank i have in the ring.

 

[Cygnus-X]

tl:dr Cain is predominantly an Endomorph, he will never meet societies standards of what an athlete is supposed to look like and, it doesn't fucking mater.

There's no such thing as an endomorph.

Somatotypology is a pseudoscience that has been dismissed by real science long ago.

 

[Darkeonz]

He's right though, there are no body types as in endo/meso/ecto.

If you take 10 genetically gifted people and 10 genetically "unlucky" people and feed them exactly the same and make them work out the exact same amount, then there will be a huge difference in how their bodies look. Now that is genetics! It is as simple as that. The fact that Cain could eat different and work out more, does not mean it is not genetics that is the reason he looks as he does.

Endo/meso/ecto are categories describing a general picture of people. Most people are somewhere inbetween on the scale and giving them the endo/meso/ecto lable, is just that... a lable.

 

[Cygnus-X]

Endo/meso/ecto are categories describing a general picture of people. Most people are somewhere inbetween on the scale and giving them the endo/meso/ecto lable, is just that... a lable.

Somatotypology has no basis in real science. It was a form of psychological (yes, psychological) form of profiling that was put in the garbage bin a loooooooooooooong time ago.

 

[Darkeonz]

There's no such thing as an endomorph.

Somatotypology is a pseudoscience that has been dismissed by real science long ago.

they're a vague description of a relative body type, and they are still used by real science when describing bodytypes. A lot of Darwins theory of evolution was wrong as well, but that does not mean that evolution is not real. We simply keep learning more about it.

 

[Cygnus-X]

they're a vague description of a relative body type, and they are still used by real science when describing bodytypes..

No, they're not, just like racial profiling isn't.