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With his insane cardio, why isnt Cain ripped?

Higher BMR = Genetics

You didn't even know what BMR was before i said it. You weren't even mentioning metabolism before I said it as well. Like I said in my posts, you are all going to change your points now.

But here's where you get DESTROYED. You claim that poor genetics = you can't get ripped. In other words, a relatively low BMR = you can't get ripped. Which is completely untrue. Hence, you and everyone else standing by the genetics point LOSE and it usually a point that obese people like to use, just saying. If you want to lose weight, PM me. If you want to keep acting rude, stubborn and ignorant, then good luck with your weight loss goals in 2014.
 
I wonder why you think that low body fat % means more cardio?
 
When the fuck did i say it was genetics or metabolism that causes people to be fat or lean? Yes metabolism is genetically influenced, whatever. But you guy's aren't even saying that. You're just throwing the word genetics out there without understanding what you're talking about.

Also, you're saying it's either you got the genetics or you don't, which is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard on sherdog.

Metabolism will INFLUENCE you body composition. I might be able to eat 1000 calories more daily than you doing the same amount of work, but does that mean you or Cain can't still get shredded?

Do you see where you sound so ridiculous? FFS, stop being so stubborn and start listening. I know a shit load more than you and it's evident.

So you agree that it is genetics and that those who does not have the same metabolism have to work around the difference in order to get the same results?

(sorry for not responding to all random noise of insults you throw in between your arguments, but I have zero interest in these ramblings)
 
Endurance doesnt equal muscle, Look at marathon runners, none of them are ripped

They have insanely low bodyfat though. Usually doing cardio burns fat. So he probably eats alot or the wrong kinds of food i guess, i'm no expert. His cardio is amazing though so that should be the reason.
 
You didn't even know what BMR was before i said it. You weren't even mentioning metabolism before I said it as well. Like I said in my posts, you are all going to change your points now.

But here's where you get DESTROYED. You claim that poor genetics = you can't get ripped. In other words, a relatively low BMR = you can't get ripped. Which is completely untrue. Hence, you and everyone else standing by the genetics point LOSE and it usually a point that obese people like to use, just saying. If you want to lose weight, PM me. If you want to keep acting rude, stubborn and ignorant, then good luck with your weight loss goals in 2014.

Why would I mention metabolism when genetics covers it?
 
lol at people saying "genes". You couldn't be any more wrong unless you have thyroid problems.

That huge fedor fan claiming that his mate can eat anything he wants and not get fat bla bla bla...yeah we all know people like that, me and my brothers always would get told that from others. You guys like to throw the word "genes" out there like we magically cannot get fat and we're mesomorphs or ectomorphs. There's no such thing like that.

The only thing you can possibly be referring to (and I'm sure you are all going to switch your point to this) is that some people have FASTER METABOLISMS. All that means is we can eat more. What does that mean for those who don't have fast metabolisms? You gotta eat less and/or do more exercise.

Now thank me.


You didn't say please.
 
Cain has an endomorphic body type meaning that he has an easy time putting on weight but has a hard time losing weight... Cain also probably doesn't do a lot of weight training to build esthetically pleasing muscles however is strength and conditioning is very high because he trains a lot and is a very hard worker... Add that to the fact he is a heavyweight and isn't overly concerned with the scale he is free to eat what he wants which in a Mexican background isn't the healthiest food which contributes to his "soft" physique...

Don't be fooled though, the man is a beast!

Was anyone fooled and thinking he's wimpy?

He's not ripped because he's a HW, if he wanted to be ripped he would just have to adjust his diet and the fat would come off pretty quick with his activity levels. Since he isn't trying to cut to LHW, he's allowed to pretty much eat whatever...and probably has to eat calorically dense foods to maintain his weight. Look up Michael phelps diet as an extreme example of someone who HAS to eat a lot to sustain his training.

Now to dispel another myth someone mentioned earlier, if he was ripped his cardio would not suffer. His cardio MAY suffer if he had huge muscles and was ripped because the big muscles require the oxygen, not the phenomena of being ripped

People seem to always equate being ripped with being big and ripped...it is possible to be one without the other
 
Genes, diet and no reason to cut it really, without drugs he would lose some muscle mass as-well trying to cut that fat.

Genes as where your body put its fat depots. He could get ripped following simple calorie deficit diet but doesn't have to.
 
They have insanely low bodyfat though. Usually doing cardio burns fat. So he probably eats alot or the wrong kinds of food i guess, i'm no expert. His cardio is amazing though so that should be the reason.

i know a few phds that run. the weird thing i noticed was they seemed to have pot bellies. they ain't marathon winners but they qualify for ny marathon which means you gotta run another 10 races or something.
 
who cares about "rated"? bullshit. I've lived in Mexico. I've lived in the US. I saw more fat Mexicans in the US than in Mexico.

Facts are facts. You can ignore them and see what ever you want to see. Your ego will do that for you.
 
Because he's not on a caloric deficit.

Cardiovascular ability has no correlation on bodyfat.

They are not completely separate mechanisms either. As your cardio improves, your heart rate for a particular intensity of exercise will decrease. This will also reduce EPOC.
 
Because he doesn't train much and eats pizzas everyday.

He has good cardio FOR the HW division where the other fighters pace nad cardio are ridiculous.Have you seen Hunt vs Bigfoot??A 500 lbs guy wouldn't gas in such pace...

HW's can't barely walk without breathing heavy,they don't realy train much,because the fight can be finished at any moment with one punch.Why train hard when you can sit on a couch eating pizzas and win with 1 punch against someone that didn't train as well...
 
He's not ripped because he's a HW, if he wanted to be ripped he would just have to adjust his diet and the fat would come off pretty quick with his activity levels. Since he isn't trying to cut to LHW, he's allowed to pretty much eat whatever...and probably has to eat calorically dense foods to maintain his weight.

That's pretty much it here, seriously speaking.

He doesn't want/doesn't give a shit about getting 'ripped', so he doesn't put any effort into it at all.

His priorities are different, I guess, and it seems he is doing quite fine.
 
They have insanely low bodyfat though. Usually doing cardio burns fat. So he probably eats alot or the wrong kinds of food i guess, i'm no expert. His cardio is amazing though so that should be the reason.

That's a myth. Your body burns glucose.
 
Lol everyone's a fucking expert here.

We've got personal trainers and bisexual bathhouse gym junkies having a cow in here.

Relax, bro science bros.

It ain't that serious.
 
So you agree that it is genetics and that those who does not have the same metabolism have to work around the difference in order to get the same results?

(sorry for not responding to all random noise of insults you throw in between your arguments, but I have zero interest in these ramblings)

Agree? No, that was my point against people like you saying that it's either you go the genetics to be ripped or you don't. I told you you'd twist your point to agree with mine, and now you're claiming that I wasn't saying that. LOL, your a pathetic liar.

Why don't you just thank me for educating you instead of trying to desperately win an argument that you clearly showed you were very wrong and uneducated about the topic.
 
So you agree that it is genetics and that those who does not have the same metabolism have to work around the difference in order to get the same results?

(sorry for not responding to all random noise of insults you throw in between your arguments, but I have zero interest in these ramblings)

BMR isn't even the best argument for you. The biggest difference in people regarding how easy they get fat/ripped isn't BMR which might be +- a couple of hundred calories/day, ie nothing. It's appetite, which is hugely based on genetics. Some people can eat 3k cals and feel like its nothing while others almost can't get it down. And that just means it a little harder for the first guy in my example, but still not even close to impossible to get shredded.
 
Because cardio =/= "ripped".

Cardio itself can be detrimental to lean mass if you do it excessively, which would make you look less "ripped".

I dont know what Cains bodyfat% is, but from what I remember the guy has been chunky his whole life so it's probably just a matter of genetics and maybe (highly speculative) his diet. It's a fairly good assumption that if he went on a real fat burning plan and reduced his bodyfat%, he'd probably be able to look ripped just like anyone else, it's just a useless feature in MMA where being "good looking" doesn't win you extra points with the judges.

I think the best example of how cardio has nothing to do with physique is a guy like Fedor, dude was straight up chubby for all/most of his career but had monster cardio.
 
Lol everyone's a fucking expert here.

We've got personal trainers and bisexual bathhouse gym junkies having a cow in here.

Relax, bro science bros.

It ain't that serious.

Lmao at Bisexual bathhouse gym junkies hahaha
 
Agree? No, that was my point against people like you saying that it's either you go the genetics to be ripped or you don't. I told you you'd twist your point to agree with mine, and now you're claiming that I wasn't saying that. LOL, your a pathetic liar.

Why don't you just thank me for educating you instead of trying to desperately win an argument that you clearly showed you were very wrong and uneducated about the topic.

If you are so much more educated about this topic than me, howcome you have been unable to deliver scientific sources to support your claims? You are very hard to take serious when you post the way you do. It is very immature, juvenile and makes me think you lack experience in life.

And no I have not twisted my point. I would love for you to prove that I have twisted
my argument. It would be rather easy, you just have to go back and quote one of my earlier posts and then quote a new one where I contradict myself.
 
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