With his insane cardio, why isnt Cain ripped?

[BisexualMMA]

That is a straw man argument. You are grossly exaggerating the stance the people have taken when they say it is genetics. Everyone can get in shape and be healthy. Do you think Cain is fat? I sure as hell don't. We are talking about the difference between being in shape like cain is, and being shredded like Cheick Kongo is.

The good thing about arguing is that if you are intelligent and have strong arguments to back up your position, then you do not need any insults to help you out. The insults actually kind of makes your arguments seem weaker as you do not let them stand on their own.

A good number of people here are making straw-man arguments for genetics being the reason, not because they intend to tear the straw man apart, but because that is their actual argument.

Seriously, I've been reading through pages of this drivel. As if Cain Velasquez is NOT GENETICALLY CAPABLE of becoming ripped? Give me a break.

I'm pretty sure you are too, but you'd likely have to make alterations to your workout and/or more sacrifices in your diet. 'Hard workouts' can mean anything and so can 'eating healthy.' You can 'eat healthy' but not have a diet that's terribly conducive to going from 'pretty lean and fit guy' to an eight pack.

Anyway, good for you that you're staying in shape in general.

Cain Velasquez is a heavyweight fighter who is nowhere near the 265 limit. He has no professional reason whatsoever to get completely shredded. Thus he doesn't eat like a bodybuilder in the cutting phase.

 

[Darkeonz]

lol at people saying "genes". You couldn't be any more wrong unless you have thyroid problems.

That huge fedor fan claiming that his mate can eat anything he wants and not get fat bla bla bla...yeah we all know people like that, me and my brothers always would get told that from others. You guys like to throw the word "genes" out there like we magically cannot get fat and we're mesomorphs or ectomorphs. There's no such thing like that.

The only thing you can possibly be referring to (and I'm sure you are all going to switch your point to this) is that some people have FASTER METABOLISMS. All that means is we can eat more. What does that mean for those who don't have fast metabolisms? You gotta eat less and/or do more exercise.

Now thank me.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/07/19/news-genes-idd-in-obesity-how-much-of-weight-is-genetic/

Scientific research supports the claim that there is geneticis involved. I am very sorry but your personal opinion and preposition is completely irrelevant to the topic

 

[SmilesNCries**]

I understand this, the point was despite having "bad" genes or not, if you don't eat an excess of calories, you don't get (or stay) fat. Its simply not possible.

Exactly. Lol'd at "fatty foods" making you fat. I think this is why when Dolce fries food for his clients that people get shocked and claim he must be some genius or something because he's feeding fried foods to his clients and they are getting lean.

Newsflash: "fatty foods" and frying your food no matter how pathetic your metabolism is will not cause fat gain. Excess calories will.

Thank me again folks.

 

[OliverAtom]

Probably genes. He's an anomaly, one of the biggest Mexicans you will ever see. An average mexican is smaller than an asian.

 

[n1xx0n]

Cain trains for mma. Not the beach

 

[Darkeonz]

A good number of people here are making straw-man arguments for genetics being the reason, not because they intend to tear the straw man apart, but because that is their actual argument.

Seriously, I've been reading through pages of this drivel. As if Cain Velasquez is NOT GENETICALLY CAPABLE of becoming ripped? Give me a break.

I'm pretty sure you are too, but you'd likely have to make alterations to your workout and/or more sacrifices in your diet. 'Hard workouts' can mean anything and so can 'eating healthy.' You can 'eat healthy' but not have a diet that's terribly conducive to going from 'pretty lean and fit guy' to an eight pack.

Anyway, good for you that you're staying in shape in general.

Cain Velasquez is a heavyweight fighter who is nowhere near the 265 limit. He has no professional reason whatsoever to get completely shredded. Thus he doesn't eat like a bodybuilder in the cutting phase.

I am not claiming that it is solely genetics. You are right about the fact that he has no reason to get shredded. But other fighters would be able to have the same diet as Cain and still be shredded. Hell I met Cheick Kongo once and he ordered a meatball sandwich with cheese lol. The fact that one can eat it and be shredded, and the other cannot, is genetics.

So all you are really arguing right now is that he could get more shredded if he stuck to a different diet. Well perhaps, but that does not mean he can get shredded like some of these other athletes

 

[SmilesNCries**]

http://healthland.time.com/2013/07/19/news-genes-idd-in-obesity-how-much-of-weight-is-genetic/

Scientific research supports the claim that there is geneticis involved. I am very sorry but your personal opinion and preposition is completely irrelevant to the topic

ROFL! I'm literally laughing so hard right now. Wow, did my previous posts not educate you whatsoever? EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT FUCKING METABOLISM! Read it again. Read it. Read it. Now see if you can say it without looking at it. There you go...

This isn't my opinion. This is research done by nutritionists who know wtf they're talking about, not doctors who still think sugar will automatically make you gain weight.

You're not educating me buddy, it's the other way around. Your desperate attempts at trying to look like you know something is only amusing me so you're not accomplishing anything by not listening to me. I'm only helping.

 

[Alexandergreat3]

I understand this, the point was despite having "bad" genes or not, if you don't eat an excess of calories, you don't get (or stay) fat. Its simply not possible.

So the more accurate way to put this would be:

If someone has the genetics that make them get fat easier, then they need to work harder and eat cleaner.

 

[ManiacTroll]

People that dismiss genetics seem to be the ones that havent expirienced the negative impacts of it firsthand.

If you have an easy time getting a six-pack with with a regular training regime and a decent diet, you can never understand that for somebody else that same program wont work, you just assume laziness.

Cain might be capable, but why would he put in all that extra effort in training and diet if it's not even necessary for his performance?

 

[Karelinator]

He doesn't even lif bor.

 

[bhp02]

Simple question, would prefer serious answers, but I'm sure I'll get some bad ones.

Cain doesnt cut any weight before fights, he has solid strength and really good cardio, so why isnt he more ripped?

I'm sure since hes a fighter, he's on a pretty strict diet.

I mean no homo, outside of the Hunt, Nelson, DC, he probably has the worst physique of the quality HWs

he does not need to diet...he does not cut weight..

 

[Darkeonz]

ROFL! I'm literally laughing so hard right now. Wow, did my previous posts not educate you whatsoever? EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT FUCKING METABOLISM! Read it again. Read it. Read it. Now see if you can say it without looking at it. There you go...

So you are saying it is genetics? Because surely you know that metabolism is mainly due to genetics? (yes I know there are other factors as well that can make it vary)

You want to have the word metabolism instead of genetics (metabolism)?

This isn't my opinion. This is research done by nutritionists who know wtf they're talking about, not doctors who still think sugar will automatically make you gain weight.

You're not educating me buddy, it's the other way around. Your desperate attempts at trying to look like you know something is only amusing me so you're not accomplishing anything by not listening to me. I'm only helping.

Please link me to the research done, so I can have a look at it. Like I said in one of my other posts, the fact that you have to act out and insult, just makes your position look weaker.

 

[SmilesNCries**]

People that dismiss genetics seem to be the ones that havent expirienced the negative impacts of it firsthand.

If you have an easy time getting a six-pack with with a regular training regime and a decent diet, you can never understand that for somebody else that same program wont work, you just assume laziness.

Cain might be capable, but why would he put in all that extra effort in training and diet if it's not even necessary for his performance?

ffs...we might have it easier to maintain being leaner, but all it is is that we have a higher BMR. People complaining about genes are just too lazy to figure out their BMR and track their food to ensure they are eating less than their TDEE.

 

[bhp02]

if Cain ate less calories than he burns..he'd be ripped...

 

[MongoFett]

So the more accurate way to put this would be:

If someone has the genetics that make them get fat easier, then they need to work harder and eat cleaner.

The most accurate way to put it would be:

Burn more calories than you take in and you will lose weight, despite your genetic disposition.

 

[SmilesNCries**]

So you are saying it is genetics? Because surely you know that metabolism is mainly due to genetics? (yes I know there are other factors as well that can make it vary)

You want to have the word metabolism instead of genetics (metabolism)?

When the fuck did i say it was genetics or metabolism that causes people to be fat or lean? Yes metabolism is genetically influenced, whatever. But you guy's aren't even saying that. You're just throwing the word genetics out there without understanding what you're talking about.

Also, you're saying it's either you got the genetics or you don't, which is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard on sherdog.

Metabolism will INFLUENCE you body composition. I might be able to eat 1000 calories more daily than you doing the same amount of work, but does that mean you or Cain can't still get shredded?

Do you see where you sound so ridiculous? FFS, stop being so stubborn and start listening. I know a shit load more than you and it's evident.

 

[Darkeonz]

ffs...we might have it easier to maintain being leaner, but all it is is that we have a higher BMR. People complaining about genes are just too lazy to figure out their BMR and track their food to ensure they are eating less than their TDEE.

Higher BMR = Genetics

 

[bhp02]

but the ufc is not a physique contest...he does not need to cut weight for fight...and he is a light heavyweight so he is fast...

no need to bring body fat to 7%

 

[The5thgod]

Horrible genetics

 

[SmilesNCries**]

And this is to those people believing in body types, lmfao. Go to 0:30