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Will you consider Islam the LW goat if he wins (4th title defense)

Hey, Money is the most ready LW right now and at least is a competent grappler to maybe fend off the great Islam

Hell yeah he’s the LW goat after another dismantling
 
Sure until we get another "LW GOAT" in 3 years, this GOAT BS just goes on in circle.
 
I am going to sound like I am cherry picking and it comes off as a bad faith argument.

No, he is not LW GOAT. DP was past his prime, Volk is a FW and Charles once a FW became a natural LW and champ. So, only Charles counts and counts for a lots.
 
All of those fighters have fought many times at featherweight in the UFC. So they have small enough frames to make 145 lbs. Not only could Islam never have made 145 lbs, but he really struggles to make 155 lbs. Dan Hardy has pointed out that Islam has cheated on the scale in Abu Dhabi. So he must have a bigger frame than fighters who were able to fight at featherweight. It is not particularly impressive to beat smaller fighters.
That's most of Jon Jones' opponents at 205 lol.
 
I look at benson, Who had the same amount of title defenses as Islam and Benson Defended fought twice, Nate diaz, Gilbert Melendez and pettis. That is a much harder line up for a champion.

Its Suredawg... all those guys suck, lol.
 
Moicano by KO
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Seems Arman's smugness has rubbed off on you. :eek:
 
Beating two featherweights and a washed has-been for your title defenses makes you the GOAT.
 
People just be waiting around to try and put a nail in Khabib's legacy every LW title fight hahahahaha

Records (and legacies) are made to be broken (surpassed), brosef. It's nothing against Khabib. They all, more or less, have the same goal.
 
Absolutely not, he is not even better than Khabib so this is silly.

Khabib had easy fights then a couple of rough ones at the end. His greatest fight was probably Conor. And Conor was over rated. BJ beat tougher people.
 
Records (and legacies) are made to be broken (surpassed), brosef. It's nothing against Khabib. They all, more or less, have the same goal.
What is a legacy if it's challenged every 5 mins but made up criteria lol

Records yes this is fine. If that really is the be all end all to the made up criteria
 
What is a legacy if it's challenged every 5 mins but made up criteria lol

Records yes this is fine. If that really is the be all end all to the made up criteria

TBF, TS is just asking, he isn't saying he thinks Islam has surpassed Khabib or that people should feel/think Islam has surpassed Khabib. The dude is just curious about what people think about the current situation and how it reflects on his legacy in the division. If anything, I think it's kinda implied Islam won't surpass Khabib yet if he beats Moicano. Could be wrong about that though.
 
I'm team Brazil. Money Moicano. Honestly idk Islam is probably gonna shoot and keep it standing kinda like the gameplan borz had on burns. I don't see moicano doing anything. He's probably getting slaughtered
 
It's Khabib for me. Khabib has pretty much every single intangible you want in a fighter, along with an insane work ethic and level of skill. It's fine for someone else to have Islam #1, but he's not going to be my #1. Islam will have to settle for #2.
 
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Islam is great, but there would be a lot of asterisks around his title reign if it stopped after Moicano. Only 1 of his defenses was against a top 5 LW (Dustin), and I didn't think he looked particularly impressive in that fight.

In the end, I think Islam will end up with the best LW resume we've seen, but almost everyone will realize he's not the "best" LW we've seen. The best versions of Khabib and BJ were clearly better than Islam, but they didn't have the longevity.

Either way, in a sport this young, GOAT debates are pretty silly. In the next 20 years, the supposed GOAT mantle will be passed around at least 2 or 3 times.

Agreed about Khabib, but not Penn.
 
I am going to sound like I am cherry picking and it comes off as a bad faith argument.

No, he is not LW GOAT. DP was past his prime, Volk is a FW and Charles once a FW became a natural LW and champ. So, only Charles counts and counts for a lots.
Volk is arguably the goat FW. Champions in neighboring weight classes are usually top ten if not top five caliber guys in neighboring ones, much less GOAT level champs.
 
LW goat? How? What has he done?

I actually feel a bit bad for him after what happened with this matchup. It would have been his first real defense against a number one contender. And he needed that badly for his resume. A thing he has no part or control over at the moment and it really sucks.

Poor guy, has the most toxic fanbase ever, and has no chance to change that.
I have never seen so much bs comments on social media or YouTube. People spamming shit and insults to his opponents pictures and videos, weeks and months before the event. A few fools here on sherdog full of shit is mild compared to that. I don’t know what makes one act that way?
 
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