Will an Indian ever hold a UFC strap?

[Ysgramor]

Indians no, but American Indians?

Get this guy in there:

 

[ReadWrite]

Woodley just self-identified as Indian.
Done.

 

[Rudeboyben84]

I'm glad you've kept an open mind, many people are quick to dismiss genetic factors in this era of political correctness but science does not lie. There are countless medical studies on muscle mass, adipose, diabetes that say the same over and over about the south asian phenotype, its become scientific fact that south asians have a different body type that is marked by high body fat, fat deposits concentrated in the stomach area and low lean muscle mass. They also have the highest rates of diabetes in the world by far

The studies I read on Muscle/Tlevels pretty much showed

Black>White>Asain

With Asian men having the same bone denisity as black women the difference was so big. I would assume South Asians would be behind East Asians Physicality wise but that's just a guess before you get a load of good weight lifters from China etc..

People are overly sensitive about it but you only have to watch the 100m Sprint or WSM to realise certain races are good at certain things. There is a surprising lack of studies on racial differences before the PC brigade sh1t their pants and scream racism when they are brought up.

Was reading about Islanders being able to Pack on Muscle quicker but also store fat like a camel! Maybe due to population size but in Rugby they are monsters on the field, watching Mark Hunt dominate Bob Sapp in that tug of war without breaking a sweat you wonder Island boys aren't dominating things like strongman events or weight lifting....

 

[shiftyguy]

The studies I read on Muscle/Tlevels pretty much showed

Black>White>Asain

With Asian men having the same bone denisity as black women the difference was so big. I would assume South Asians would be behind East Asians Physicality wise but that's just a guess before you get a load of good weight lifters from China etc..

People are overly sensitive about it but you only have to watch the 100m Sprint or WSM to realise certain races are good at certain things. There is a surprising lack of studies on racial differences before the PC brigade sh1t their pants and scream racism when they are brought up.

Was reading about Islanders being able to Pack on Muscle quicker but also store fat like a camel! Maybe due to population size but in Rugby they are monsters on the field, watching Mark Hunt dominate Bob Sapp in that tug of war without breaking a sweat you wonder Island boys aren't dominating things like strongman events or weight lifting....

Not surprised with the samoans and islanders. There are only like 500,000 of them in the entire planet which makes the following statistic even more amazing

"A Samoan male is 56 times more likely to play in the NFL than an American non-Samoan."


https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welco...e.com.au/&referrer=https://www.google.com.au/

 

[Z3N Gambler]

Bindy Johal could have been champ of the world.

Im still around.

 

[Hotora86]

Could he *curry* the flag for Indian MMA fighters?

 

[orca]

Tities aint loyal

 

[thobra]

lol what makes you think that Jaideep can beat Hunt who is a former K1 GP Champ and JDS who is considerd one of the better HW strikers in mma?

Jaideep is not even a verry good kickboxer and has a mediocre record with his biggest win being Kharitanov who was 1-1 in kickboxing at the time.


Jaideep is 2-3 in mma and fought mostly nobodies. the guy doesnt have the skills to be a champion.

for your sake i hope you were just trolling.

Wasn't this posted in 2013 or something?? I don't even remember what I was replying to, but I would expect Singh to be able to beat current Hunt and JDS in a standup fight. Prime Hunt, probably not, but 10 year older Hunt is a different fight.

Jaideep is not a nobody in kickboxing. He was very competitive vs Texeira, and went to a decision with Ghokan. Not among the absolutely best, but with his size/ reach, he could win some pure standup fights in mma..

He has however had a few rough years now..

 

[USA!USA!]

Yeah seemed a bit of a shitty comment to make to be fair. Ireland’s total population is less than that of a say somewhere like Maryland. Considering MMA isn’t huge in Ireland we have punched well above our weight for our population size by having taken 2 UFC titles.

Having so many great boxers over the years for a small country shows for our size we excel at combat sports, so as MMA takes off over here I’m sure we will see more top MMA fighters. So yeah the whole of Ireland can do it anyone can doesn’t sit well with me.

I honestly don't know why you've taken offense to that statement lol - it wasn't a knock on Ireland at all. No need to get defensive. You actually made my point for me - that Ireland, a small country, has done well and produced a champion, so I don't see why a much larger country can't produce a champion as well. Very simple point that you've reached on and turned into some kind of slight against Ireland.

 

[USA!USA!]

Ranked Irish MMA fighters,

Karl Moore 80th Lhw
Chris Fields 118th Lhw
Conor Mcgregor 1st Lw
Joe Duffy 77th Lw
Norman Parke 82nd Lw
Paul Redmond 228th Lw
Joe McColgan 252nd Lw
Peter Queally 366th Lw
Artem Lobov 89th Fw
Brian Moore 427th Fw

I don't think listing off the 426th fw is really helping your case TBH.

After Conor, there isn't anyone else in contention. That's not a slight against Ireland so stop taking it that way - it's just a very small country. Conor has proven that the Irish can fight, but I wouldn't expect them to keep rolling out the champions TBH.

 

[Karelinator]

South asians are Pakistanis, indians and bangladeshis not THAIS. Thais are a totally different people and belong to SOUTH EAST ASIA. Very different genetics. You cannot group a thai , filipino with an indian.

Dunno, is there any conclusive research about this? Like, what populations are most similar to each other?

Pakistani in particular have tonnes of Iranian/Aryan admixture, basically werstern Indo-European, and Semitic/Turkish too.

Very similar to all neighborhood Islamic states.

They're more white/whitish, than Southern/South-Eastern Asians.

So this kinda goes against your theory.


I've never said genetics aren't important anyway, just that infrastructure and money, money is most important.


I kinda suspect that it's not ancestry as such, but a urbanization and population levels.

If you look at places that are considered 'fat and nonathletic', they're generally hugely (over)populated places like India itself.

Where ability to function and navigate trough complex and crowded/hierarchical society was by far most important trait for reproductive success.

While having huge, muscled body consuming a lot of energy on physical feats being actually counter-productive.

 

[Rudeboyben84]

It is absolutely genetics. Indians have by far the shittiest genetics of any ethnicity, as well as having the worst natural body odour

Not a chance, When I worked with a load of Indians he pointed out they sweat curry because its in all their food but white people sweat is like off milk because of all the dairy we eat! Curry sweat> sour Milk sweat!

 

[Rudeboyben84]

I don't think listing off the 426th fw is really helping your case TBH.

After Conor, there isn't anyone else in contention. That's not a slight against Ireland so stop taking it that way - it's just a very small country. Conor has proven that the Irish can fight, but I wouldn't expect them to keep rolling out the champions TBH.

Yeah didn't realise I posted that, It was actually in a draft when I got sidetracked realising I went to school with one of the guys on the list.... fair enough, got defensive out of nowhere.... took it as "well if the Irish can do it anyone can do it" lol. Fighting Irish, just picking a fight from nothing. USA USA Lets go Hendo and all that good stuff

Maybe right, don't expect to have another MMA champ for a long time unless we shift from a boxing nation to an MMA one but there is the whole "rolling about the ground" isn't fighting... bit behind the times with a lot of things over here.... and clearly overly defensive! lol.

 

[welcometohavoc]

The Chinese are WAY ahead of the Indians when it comes to combat sports.
Over twice as many Olympic wrestling medals (11 medals, incl. 2 gold), 12 medals in boxing (Indians have 00), and at least 2 professional boxing world champions (India again 00).

Which makes it even less likely that we'll see an Indian champion.

Hell, the Koreans are 10x ahead of the Japanese, and the Japanese are 10x ahead of the Chinese, and still the only Korean we've ever had top the top 10 was Stun Gun

 

[USA!USA!]

Yeah didn't realise I posted that, It was actually in a draft when I got sidetracked realising I went to school with one of the guys on the list.... fair enough, got defensive out of nowhere.... took it as "well if the Irish can do it anyone can do it" lol. Fighting Irish, just picking a fight from nothing. USA USA Lets go Hendo and all that good stuff

Maybe right, don't expect to have another MMA champ for a long time unless we shift from a boxing nation to an MMA one but there is the whole "rolling about the ground" isn't fighting... bit behind the times with a lot of things over here.... and clearly overly defensive! lol.

I mean, shit dude - I have some Irish in my heritage. Many more countries I'd knock before Ireland.

That's a good point about boxing shift to mma. Same could be said about other sports - most of our country's best athletes don't even do combat sports. I think the sport would look a whole lot different if dudes like LeBron James were in the cage.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Indians are too busy running the reservation casino's that host MMA events.

 

[noizer]

Wasn't this posted in 2013 or something?? I don't even remember what I was replying to, but I would expect Singh to be able to beat current Hunt and JDS in a standup fight. Prime Hunt, probably not, but 10 year older Hunt is a different fight.

Jaideep is not a nobody in kickboxing. He was very competitive vs Texeira, and went to a decision with Ghokan. Not among the absolutely best, but with his size/ reach, he could win some pure standup fights in mma..

He has however had a few rough years now..

no you posted this like 6 months ago and not much has changed in the meantime.

so his biggest accomplishment is a decision loss to Saki? exactly the same reasoning people used to justify his matchup with Fedor. a match Fedor won with ease btw. Jaideep was never and will never be a good mma fighter and was only decent at best in the kickboxing scene.

each his own opinion tho. he does have a positive record ( kickboxing ) against somewhat decent competition and fought but lost to some verry good names ( Teixeira and Londt ). Saki being the only elite opponent he ever faced imo.

 

[315MMAFighter]

I work with a ton of Indians and they don't seem to be into MMA much. That said, India is a massive country with over a billion people. One would think they'd be able to produce a top tier fighter or two.

However all the Indians I work with don't seem to possess an athletic bone in their body. I'm confident that if my office had an open weight tournament I'd at least make it to the finals.

So, will we ever see Dana putting the belt on an Indian fighter?

I would love to see a Indian HW champion in teh UFC

 

[315MMAFighter]

LOL seriously? Where the fuck have you been, living under a rock? It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of WHEN.

YESSSS!! LMAO

 

[thobra]

no you posted this like 6 months ago and not much has changed in the meantime.

so his biggest accomplishment is a decision loss to Saki? exactly the same reasoning people used to justify his matchup with Fedor. a match Fedor won with ease btw. Jaideep was never and will never be a good mma fighter and was only decent at best in the kickboxing scene.

each his own opinion tho. he does have a positive record ( kickboxing ) against somewhat decent competition and fought but lost to some verry good names ( Teixeira and Londt ). Saki being the only elite opponent he ever faced imo.

6 months or 4 years... it doesn’t really matter. The point was that someone like Jaideep could be UFC champ, based on What Hunt/JDS did. Pretty unlikely, but not impossible. Good strikers with limited groundgame can get pretty far with favourable matchups.