Will an Indian ever hold a UFC strap?

[Coolidge]

Indians produce some of the greatest minds on the planet (Ramanujan anyone?) and are intensely focused on Academic rather than athletic pursuits. When you're intelligent you can find easier and more certain ways to make money.

The average Indian IQ isn't all that high. Ramanujan was an exception.

 

[storeybuckle]

F*^k off with the wrasslin sh*t

 

[TheRassler]

F*^k off with the wrasslin sh*t

I say the same thing during MMA fights.

 

[k4lm4h]

It has already been done twice actually. Cody is the current flyweight champ in the UFC and Dan Henderson was the pride/UFC middle weight champ

That's not indian

 

[abrasion]

Only if chief jay strongbow enters the ufc......

 

[Farhad Ahmad]

Wow. A truly amazing, inspiring and accurate recount of events. Thank you so much for enlightening us with this legendary display of class from the great Jhara Pehlwan, brother Farhad

Always a pleasure talking to the man with pills!

 

[memling]

There's no financial incentive for good coaches to have gyms in India.

 

[tenniswhiz]

You may laugh but Indian wrestlers are legit. If they switched to MMA they would beat the shit out of people. These guys are very strong.

These two guys were good.



Since high level training facilities/partners are scarce, they spent years mostly training with each other.
They're roughly the same size as each other and competed in neighboring weight divisions.
Kumar won 2 Olympic medals, Dutt won 1.

If they can do that, then other guys over there can too. And some of them could could train MMA afterwards.

 

[Danespina]

Sonjay Dutt

 

[A_bomb47]

Probably more money in IT than in MMA...

This.
MMA's biggest star Conor probably doesn't make as much money as Satya Nadella (Microsoft) or Sundar Pichai (Google).

 

[TheScorpionDude]

Will they ever make a descent movie is what i'm interested in

 

[Semiskimmed]

Super fight league?

There's every chance an Indian could get to the UFC and be champ, it'll just take time to evolve there and then fighters heading for the states etc.

 

[JT RIPPER]

India had super fight league for a while, at least that seemed to be a showcase for the Indian fighters before it fell apart.

I'm Indian and lived in cali almost all my life, I can def speak from experience in mine and many friends houses...none of us were encouraged to get into sports or even be athletic in any way...let alone being allowed to fight for sport.

 

[ejazahmednit]

can we have an indian ufc champ? Sure
will we have an indian UFC champ, nope

Reasons: 1. culturally inclined towards academia
2. Corruption in sports

Widespread poverty does breed hungry athletes but the problem is we dont spend enough or honestly enough in sports
however we do well in olympics wrestling and boxing
Sushil kumar could transition to MMA but he has spoken about having no interest as far as i remember

 

[shiftyguy]

Yes but only if they take roids and other performance enhancements to even the playing field



Mean lean muscle mass (kg)


black males = 65.6kg

White males = 62 kg

Hispanic males = 59.9 kg

Asian males = 59.6 kg

Indian males = 53.3 kg

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...3180/table/T1/



At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively"

Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/articl...596390



Asian Indians tend to have more abdominal adipose tissue, less lean body mass (LBM) and higher magnitude of insulin resistance (IR) despite falling in the normal range of body mass index (BMI) [1]. The high value of waist hip ratio in Asian Indians may be due to less lean mass of the hips and greater fat at the levels of waist [2]. Another study showed that Asian Indian men have low muscle mass and 30% more total body fat (BF) than other ethnic groups [3]. Low lean mass is also evident in Asian Indian neonates as compared to white Caucasian neonates [4].

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0040977



The lung capacity of Indians is 30 per cent lower than North Americans or Europeans or Chinese, making them highly vulnerable to diabetes, heart attacks or strokes, says a top scientist.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-n...ese-study.html



"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups"

Body size, body composition and fat distribution: comparative analysis of European, Maori, Pacific Island and Asian Indian adults.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19203416





"Asian Indians have different body phenotypefrom Europeans (36). The major differences are in high
body fat, high truncal, subcutaneous and intra-abdominal fat, and low muscle mass."

Ethnicity and type 2 diabetes in Asian Indian migrants in Auckland, New Zealand (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/public...Asian_Indian_migrants_in_Auckland_New_Zealand [accessed Dec 18 2017].

 

[Themonsoon]

Doubt it

The best fighters are Latinos, African Americans, and Eastern euro

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Dont they have a rich wrestling tradition? Or am I wrong?

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Yes but only if they take roids and other performance enhancements to even the playing field



Mean lean muscle mass (kg)


black males = 65.6kg

White males = 62 kg

Hispanic males = 59.9 kg

Asian males = 59.6 kg

Indian males = 53.3 kg

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...3180/table/T1/



At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively"

Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/articl...596390



Asian Indians tend to have more abdominal adipose tissue, less lean body mass (LBM) and higher magnitude of insulin resistance (IR) despite falling in the normal range of body mass index (BMI) [1]. The high value of waist hip ratio in Asian Indians may be due to less lean mass of the hips and greater fat at the levels of waist [2]. Another study showed that Asian Indian men have low muscle mass and 30% more total body fat (BF) than other ethnic groups [3]. Low lean mass is also evident in Asian Indian neonates as compared to white Caucasian neonates [4].

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0040977



The lung capacity of Indians is 30 per cent lower than North Americans or Europeans or Chinese, making them highly vulnerable to diabetes, heart attacks or strokes, says a top scientist.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-n...ese-study.html



"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups"

Body size, body composition and fat distribution: comparative analysis of European, Maori, Pacific Island and Asian Indian adults.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19203416





"Asian Indians have different body phenotypefrom Europeans (36). The major differences are in high
body fat, high truncal, subcutaneous and intra-abdominal fat, and low muscle mass."

Ethnicity and type 2 diabetes in Asian Indian migrants in Auckland, New Zealand (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/public...Asian_Indian_migrants_in_Auckland_New_Zealand [accessed Dec 18 2017].

Well there ya go

And holy shit to the 30% lower lung capacity!

Never will they crown a champ

 

[shiftyguy]

Well there ya go

And holy shit to the 30% lower lung capacity!

Never will they crown a champ

I know right!!!!


So if you read this following study, even with adjustment for diet, height and lifestyle, indians still have less lean muscle mass and more body fat than other ethnic groups. So those arguing environmental and diet as the reasons for the differences can discount those factors. Furthermore this study was conducted in western canada, so all ethnic groups here are exposed to first world conditions

"At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively"

Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/articl...596390

 

[j123]

People are people, rather than the racial makeup, I feel its more combat sport culture that takes it. IIRC a teammate of mine fought a wrestler-boxer who did very well who happened to be Indian decent. In a place like India, MMA talent is low so there's not much, but if they're in the west, they have just as much a chance as any other here.