Why Sambo wrestling destroys American wrestling (Khabib Sons the WW division)

UFCHasNoPride said:
Its no coincidence these wrestlers that are hailed as Gods get consistently destroyed when they come up against Dagestani Caucus muscle.

The biggest problem is the coaches in American wrestling are obsessed with physical prowess and athleticism. Its like a fetish. No wonder the collegiate system is filled with weirdo pedo trainers like in Penn state. Just look at their takedowns, its all out of sheer power and speed, no emphasis on IQ or technique.

Contrast this with Eastern block wrestling, which foregoes physicality for IQ and technique. Judo throws, sweeps and trips, Japanese Jiujitsu type control of the opponents body and overall wider fluid weaponry in terms of takedowns than boring old double leg, shooting down low, german suplexes YAWN.

Then once the guy is taken down, American wrestling is just get the dude on his knees and hump him down and just not let him get up. Lay and pray. YAWN. Sambo, once hes down, look at Khabib, constantly moving, constantly transitioning to better positions, looking to trap and completely immobilise his opponents, Sambo's even got BJJ submissions, guard work, top control, transitioning EVERYTHING.

Usman, Colby, Woodley and Gaithje are DORKS. Khabib smokes all four without even breaking a sweat. Usman and Colby were so unconfident in their own grappling abilities, they both decide not to engage in their STRENGTH and put on that embarrassment of amateur striking. You think Khabib would refuse a grappling challenge with ANYONE? Please. WW is just as easier of a division for Khabib than LW. Khabib dominates Usman who is a discount Khabib and worse than him everywhere including striking. Colby is a joke. Woodley if he can use his TDD and physicality and GSP style the fight, its a maybe.
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UFCHasNoPride said:
The biggest problem is the coaches in American wrestling are obsessed with physical prowess and athleticism. Its like a fetish. No wonder the collegiate system is filled with weirdo pedo trainers like in Penn state.
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UFCHasNoPride said:
Its no coincidence these wrestlers that are hailed as Gods get consistently destroyed when they come up against Dagestani Caucus muscle.

The biggest problem is the coaches in American wrestling are obsessed with physical prowess and athleticism. Its like a fetish. No wonder the collegiate system is filled with weirdo pedo trainers like in Penn state. Just look at their takedowns, its all out of sheer power and speed, no emphasis on IQ or technique.

Contrast this with Eastern block wrestling, which foregoes physicality for IQ and technique. Judo throws, sweeps and trips, Japanese Jiujitsu type control of the opponents body and overall wider fluid weaponry in terms of takedowns than boring old double leg, shooting down low, german suplexes YAWN.

Then once the guy is taken down, American wrestling is just get the dude on his knees and hump him down and just not let him get up. Lay and pray. YAWN. Sambo, once hes down, look at Khabib, constantly moving, constantly transitioning to better positions, looking to trap and completely immobilise his opponents, Sambo's even got BJJ submissions, guard work, top control, transitioning EVERYTHING.

Usman, Colby, Woodley and Gaithje are DORKS. Khabib smokes all four without even breaking a sweat. Usman and Colby were so unconfident in their own grappling abilities, they both decide not to engage in their STRENGTH and put on that embarrassment of amateur striking. You think Khabib would refuse a grappling challenge with ANYONE? Please. WW is just as easier of a division for Khabib than LW. Khabib dominates Usman who is a discount Khabib and worse than him everywhere including striking. Colby is a joke. Woodley if he can use his TDD and physicality and GSP style the fight, its a maybe.
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Russians wrestle too, numbnuts. Heard of Karelin?
 
Combat Sambo is like the ultimate base for getting into mma and essentially all you need.
 
Kertol said:
Combat Sambo is like the ultimate base for getting into mma and essentially all you need.
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Combat sambo is pretty damn similar to MMA. It's like saying MMA is the best base for MMA.
 
kalabula said:
I think khabib would have trouble at WW. At least more so then at LW.
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He had a lot of trouble with Tibau, who is basically a WW that manages to cut to LW. Granted that was like his 2nd UFC fight.
 
Clashman said:
He had a lot of trouble with Tibau, who is basically a WW that manages to cut to LW. Granted that was like his 2nd UFC fight.
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A WW on roids with elite TDD and Khabib still won the fight. Anyone who brings that fight up to hold it against Khabib is just a hater.
 
UFCHasNoPride said:
Its no coincidence these wrestlers that are hailed as Gods get consistently destroyed when they come up against Dagestani Caucus muscle.

The biggest problem is the coaches in American wrestling are obsessed with physical prowess and athleticism. Its like a fetish. No wonder the collegiate system is filled with weirdo pedo trainers like in Penn state. Just look at their takedowns, its all out of sheer power and speed, no emphasis on IQ or technique.

Contrast this with Eastern block wrestling, which foregoes physicality for IQ and technique. Judo throws, sweeps and trips, Japanese Jiujitsu type control of the opponents body and overall wider fluid weaponry in terms of takedowns than boring old double leg, shooting down low, german suplexes YAWN.

Then once the guy is taken down, American wrestling is just get the dude on his knees and hump him down and just not let him get up. Lay and pray. YAWN. Sambo, once hes down, look at Khabib, constantly moving, constantly transitioning to better positions, looking to trap and completely immobilise his opponents, Sambo's even got BJJ submissions, guard work, top control, transitioning EVERYTHING.

Usman, Colby, Woodley and Gaithje are DORKS. Khabib smokes all four without even breaking a sweat. Usman and Colby were so unconfident in their own grappling abilities, they both decide not to engage in their STRENGTH and put on that embarrassment of amateur striking. You think Khabib would refuse a grappling challenge with ANYONE? Please. WW is just as easier of a division for Khabib than LW. Khabib dominates Usman who is a discount Khabib and worse than him everywhere including striking. Colby is a joke. Woodley if he can use his TDD and physicality and GSP style the fight, its a maybe.
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I'm a sambo fanboy cause of Fedor, but dude.... duuuude, Khabib is training at AKA. With DC.... cmon mang....

DC didn't move to Dagestan, Khabib moved to America.

I'm not sure Khabib agrees with you :D

Also, wrestling isn't American and Sambo isn't from Dagestan.

Your arguments are flawed.
 
I wish you posted this in the grappling forum so you could get your ass eaten alive
 
applesbananas said:
Combat sambo is pretty damn similar to MMA. It's like saying MMA is the best base for MMA.
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Except you have the classes and infrastructures required to train sambo from a young age. That makes a difference from doing another martial art as a kid and switching to MMA as a teenager.
 
TheScorpionDude said:
I'm a sambo fanboy cause of Fedor, but dude.... duuuude, Khabib is training at AKA. With DC.... cmon mang....

DC didn't move to Dagestan, Khabib moved to America.

I'm not sure Khabib agrees with you :D

Also, wrestling isn't American and Sambo isn't from Dagestan.

Your arguments are flawed.
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Yeah he did go to AKA and started manhandling MW's and LHW's American wrestlers, as per Josh Thompson, DC, Mendez, Rockhold, etc etc.
 
UFCHasNoPride said:
A WW on roids with elite TDD and Khabib still won the fight. Anyone who brings that fight up to hold it against Khabib is just a hater.
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You can't whine about Khabib looking like shit when fighting WW wrestlers, (and he should have lost that fight), and then say he would dominate WW. Tibau fights at LW for a reason, as does Khabib.
 
Clashman said:
You can't whine about Khabib looking like shit when fighting WW wrestlers, (and he should have lost that fight), and then say he would dominate WW. Tibau fights at LW for a reason, as does Khabib.
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Please, Khabib was green and fighting a crazy weight cutter using god knows what kind of diuretics and substances to make weight and all kinds of PEDs with historical elite TDD. If the Khabib of now fought that same prime Tibau, he would've been easily taken down and mauled like everyone else despite his elite TDD. AND HE STILL WON THE FIGHT! Don't hate.
 
Fighting a crazy weight cutter who would be average to small in the WW division, mind you. He looked like shit against him, and there more and better wrestlers at WW than at LW.
 
I don't think it'll ever be possible to directly compare grappling styles until other grappling styles have equivalent college systems that get the most elite talent
 
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