Why isn't Japan dominating MMA?

[MuayThai101]

So MMA is bigger in Ireland, who has a population of 4 mil, and Asia has a pop of 4 bill and invented martial arts? MMA is MASSIVEEEEE in Asia compared to the rest of the world but they are not physically gifted enough. You are too emotionally connected to this subject to be objective and realistic.

Yes. The top 10 country in the Olympics is just not physically gifted enough for the almighty B-level athletic sport which is MMA. What will they ever do without that 10K show and win money. lmaoo

gtfo son.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

that's like me saying get back to me when the US wins a soccer world title. are americans to stupid or physically not gifted enough to play soccer? no, they just don't give a shit about the sport just like asian don't give a shit about mma.

Yep. That is it. Asians just do not care about martial arts.

 

[tenniswhiz]

We can do these threads over and over.

Why is every single finalist in the 100 m of African descent?

Why are there more black running backs and basketball players than whites?

Why are there a disproportionately high number of Asians at the most elite colleges?

Why are people from East Africa so much better at distance running than the rest of the world? Yea, some malnourished guy from Kenya without proper training or nutrition runs 5 minute miles one after another, for hours, but other cultures can’t do that too?

Why are there no good ice hockey players coming from the African countries? They can run but they can’t skate and handle the puck?

Based on where humans were, they evolved a certain way...diet, values, training, and passion play a part to some extent too.

 

[2GunTommy]

 

[Yodsanan]

Yep. That is it. Asians just do not care about martial arts.

Are you just trolling? MMA is not the end of all combat sports. Kickboxing, Muay Thai and Boxing remain king in asia.

Americans can't cut it in kickboxing and don't have a champion in any major organisation right now.

 

[ArtOfDrowning]

Interest in MMA there seems to have nose dived. After Pride they had Dream watch was ok and put on some good cards but it went defunct too for whatever reason. Now they have Rizin, so enough said right there.

This, they don't give a shit about MMA. And I know this because I work with Japanese people on daily basis, almost nobody cares about MMA or UFC.

 

[MMAart]

that's like me saying get back to me when the US wins a soccer world title. are americans to stupid or physically not gifted enough to play soccer? no, they just don't give a shit about the sport just like asian don't give a shit about mma.

Your example with the U.S. actually supports the other poster's point: The U.S. is racially mixed with a large diverse gene pool, which is more of an advantage than a country with less genetic potentials.

 

[original doom]

have you ever seen a country where a significant drop in population is because of a good thing? If your country's pop drops off that much there is some inherent cultural/social problems going on.

then so be it.

 

[original doom]

The population decline is only a symptom of the problem. Japanese men are emasculated

they might be but thats not my problem and one that wont be solved by importing half the third world.

 

[ColombianFist]

Different market and culture.japanese mma tends to focus on local market.

 

[DanaWhitesButler]

So I can speak a bit to their wrestling track record. In the 2016 Olympics they won 7 medals - 4 gold, three silver and were second of all countries. Sounds great right? A deeper look and you’ll see that of those four golds, none were won by men. The men only won 2 silvers and neither were won by a man heavier than 130 lbs (59 KG). I think this alone is a pretty good explination for Japan’s lack of accomplishments in MMA (outside of Shooto where the divisions go down to 115). I don’t follow kickboxing but imagine I would find a similar trend if I looked into it.

So, those gold medals don't count because they were won by women? Blatantly sexist

 

[Mondo Freaks]

Too much Pho

 

[DanaWhitesButler]

Asians have the worst genes to be dominant in unarmed combat.
Frail body types, smaller/weaker joints, lowest testosterone of any race.
The only thing they have over other races is a higher IQ, which probably also factors in why they're not setting foot inside a cage.

Got any citations to back up any of that bullshit you are spewing or are you just making stuff up as you go along?

 

[Blayt7hh]

This, they don't give a shit about MMA. And I know this because I work with Japanese people on daily basis, almost nobody cares about MMA or UFC.

It's a shame too though, because most of my favorite MMA memories come from Japan

 

[djason1988]

You're a perfect example of what's wrong with Western society and how overly sensitized people are becoming. In what way was anything I said racist? I never mentioned anything remotely relating to Japanese ethnicity or culture.

In fact you could replace the word Japan with any country and you wouldn't have a clue that I had been talking about Japan, that's how racially/ethnically ambiguous my statement was

Maybe not racist so much as prejudiced or ethnocentric. Bad wording on my part, but the point still stands. You're saying their country is dying off due to "emasculation", which is 100% a perception of your own culture's gender norms (which vary DRASTICALLY by culture). Regardless, I was agreeing with you despite your poor phrasing.

 

[Darth Nevets]

There a number of significant reasons why they are not, but I'll throw one more out there I haven't read yet (I may have overlooked a post earlier) that the death of Pride created a cultural disgrace. The influence of the mafia embittered the populace as a whole, in a way that even the Black Sox scandal can't compare because MMA was such a new sport. In many ways this created a wound that never really healed, and keeps Japanese talent from every investing their time in MMA. That soccer post was right, unless massive cultural shifts occur we'll never even sniff a World Cup.

 

[Lots]

Because most people in Japan are Japanese.

 

[ironfist05]

Lel, u are right bro: there is no difference between a Mastiff and Poodle, nor a Halflinger or an Arab, or a Rhode Island Red or Leg Horn - "All are equal in every way!". Keep living in your alternative universe and think genetics applies to everything except humans. Get back to me when an Asian wins a UFC or premiere AND MODERN MMA title (not Ping Pong or weight lifting).

what are you some kind of eugenisict?

If Asians do well in literally every other combat sport, then it bears to reason that they'd do well in MMA if the continent of Asia actually gave a shit about MMA, which is a sport literally nobody cares abuot in Asia. Also comparing mastiffs and poodles to Asians and other races is pretty piss poor logic.

I mean, would you say continental Africans or Hispanics aren't any good at MMA? They have failed to produce any top talents at the large scale. That's not because they aren't athletic, it's because they don't care about a second rate sport that pays dirt.

 

[FlowchartRog]

LOL at the idiot McNuthugger who said "There will never be an Asian boxing champ". Japan alone has more champs per capita than the big bad USA.

Not only that but I can't believe no one has mentioned Pacquiao. Not just a boxing champ, the only 8 division world champ in boxing history, and one of the very best fighters of all time. And the thing is, he did it with mainly athleticism. He's always had unreal speed, agility, and power.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

I think in general eastern Asians are just at a physical disadvantage. Neoteny isn’t a trait well suited to professional cage fighting

Go fuck your mother.

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