Why is "running away" a cowardly fighting tactic ?

It's because the UFC cage allows the fighters to easily run circles of your opponent instead of using more traditional evasive maneuvers which are more applicable to rings
 
JustOnce said:
Well you know when a 'winner' wants a rematch, and a 'loser' doesn't want one, it really is telling, especially when that 'winner' did a great impression of kalib starnes, who actually had a broken hand or something that could more valid reason than the one of 'i wanted to win'
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I wouldn't want a rematch either if I had no answer for an opponent who uses lateral movement, especially when the public thinks I'm (Diaz) such a ''great boxer''.
 
SongXIII said:
I wouldn't want a rematch either if I had no answer for an opponent who uses lateral movement, especially when the public thinks I'm (Diaz) such a ''great boxer''.
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There was too few movement sideways as a whole to be called using a lateral movement, but it's just me. Never cared for Condit, meh
 
But in all fairness, I think I might have thought Diaz lost that fight, 345 condit, but not sure, I just wasn't paying much attention because that fight was boring, and I knew that no one was getting finished in that fight because Diaz has no knockout power and granite chin.
 
JustOnce said:
Shotokan karate is the shit :)
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It really is. And what's cool is amazing how many top level fighters have a base in Karate. Alone, Karate is not a very good in a street fight. But when aspects of Karate are introduced to an MMA base, it's pretty beneficial - for timing, distance tactics.

"My Karate background is all about timing." - Urijah Hall (after his win over Moose)
 
JustOnce said:
Well you know when a 'winner' wants a rematch, and a 'loser' doesn't want one, it really is telling, especially when that 'winner' did a great impression of kalib starnes, who actually had a broken hand or something that could more valid reason than the one of 'i wanted to win'
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This is the dumbest shit ive seen in a while.

Carlos wants rematch Diaz doesnt = Carlos looks bad

Diaz wants a rematch Condit doesnt = Condit looks bad

You must be one of those 1,2,5 guys.
 
JustOnce said:
Well you know when a 'winner' wants a rematch, and a 'loser' doesn't want one, it really is telling, especially when that 'winner' did a great impression of kalib starnes, who actually had a broken hand or something that could more valid reason than the one of 'i wanted to win'
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Diaz doesn't want a rematch because he thinks he won, because neither he nor anyone he cares about has ever legitimately lost a fight as far as he's concerned. Including those times they got knocked out or submitted.

For me it's the difference between backpedaling and completely refusing to engage (Starnes, who probably should have been disqualified), and managing distance and resetting the fight (Gustafsson and Condit that one time).
 
Coffee79 said:
Gus and Condit in his fight against Diaz have both been criticized for "running away." It's a fight, right ? And if the idea is to inflict damage and not absorb any yourself, how exactly is running away from danger a bad thing ?
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Here lies the problem with Condit vs Diaz, he wasn't trying to inflict damage he was trying to pick his way to a decision win. Gus vs Cormier isn't the same at all as he was putting himself in harms way a lot and looking to throw fight ending shots often, he just needed to reset at a favourable range quite often.
 
Because its a fist fight?
 
Running is fine if you use it to get in a better position to attack. Running is not very fun to watch if it's your entire strategy.
 
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no turning your back exposing areas that are illegal to strike is very dangerous.

what if Dc threw a strike and hit Gus at the base of his skull.

would it be an illegal strike?

frankly Gus should have been warned about it, its falls under Timidness imho

and its shows the fight mentality and fight IQ Gus has, which will never allow him to hold a belt.


he just doesnt have it upstairs to ever be the best in the world.
 
Coffee79 said:
It's a fight, right ? And if the idea is to inflict damage and not absorb any yourself, how exactly is running away from danger a bad thing?
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It's also a scored competition. In the eyes of the judges, running (or even elusiveness) isn't a good thing (you cited Machida, and look how many times he's paid for his style). When you're riding the potential for a split decision, it can become the difference between winning and losing the fight.

But there is also a principle and context to it. For fighting to be exciting, there has to be action, and actively retreating isn't viewed as action. I, personally, don't have a problem with resetting or getting out of a bad way, but constantly doing so rides a line that's (rightfully) created to avoid such tactics, when possible. It sucks that the discussion behind it is often overly simplified, but perception is reality in this case.

That said, I think Gus has enough skill and range on him, that he can fix a few things. But that's another discussion.
 
Has "timidness" ever been enforced in a fight?

Kalib got away with a decision loss, he should have been DQ earlier.
 
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