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Why is legitimate Existential Crisis confused with depression ?

The whole point of morality in a religious vacuum is that you will be rewarded for it in the afterlife. It fundamentally robs you of the opportunity to be moral for the sake of being moral.


Why ignore my example? Sometimes people are just good for goodness' sake. Even religious people.

Think about this: Evangelical Christians believe that the moment they accept Christ they are saved. No future sins could rob them of this salvation. So what motivation is there to keep doing good? They nevertheless keep doing good.


They do get better. My father passed away. My mother didn't roll over and die, and neither did i.

But what I'm saying is, things are fine already. You just have to start appreciating the cool shit you've gone through in your life more, and know that you can control whether more cool shit happens in the future.


Fair enough. I just think life can be VERY hard on this earth. So hard sometimes that it's not worth living anymore.
 
Science, history, and politics my friend. The reasoning for everything that is, was, or will be, can be explained by science, history, and politics.

Educating yourself on these issues, is at least pursuing the answers you seek. Standing still is what is driving you crazy.

Care to elaborate.
 
Well that does sound like depression(haha jk), or at least the inability to accept what is and the want for a greater ideal. With that said, the answers you are searching for might not exist, or they simply be that we exist to exist and then we dont. Would that change how you live your life? Would you decide that the benefit of existing and experiencing everything we get to, is just not enough reason to be? If so I would look inward instead of out, I think alot of those feelings could be very valid but maybe the questions you are asking is wrong. I dont know though, its just a passing thought.


It is definitely depression. The question is: Is it justifiable depression. Sometimes there's a reason for depression. To NOT be depressed is the disorder.

As for the benefit of existence itself, that's a good question that I think about every day. A big part of the reason I haven't committed suicide is my parents. I know it would crush them and I don't want to do that. But I often wonder, if they were gone tomorrow would I still find a reason to be here?
 
And to just ask the quesion, if said God said our science theories are right, the big bang is right (or whatever creation theory you wanna go with), we exist because we evolved out of the set rules of biology, physics, and all that, and that he simply was the spark to create this and nothing more, we are just like any other animal on earth or anywhere. Would that satisfy you, would it cure that search and would you be ok with moving forward?

Well in his book "The Language of God," Francis Collins, world-renowned scientist and head of the Human Genome Project (you can easily look him up), posits that evolution was used as God's mechanism to getting us to where we are today. Essentially he thinks that evolution is all part of God's plan and doesn't diminish the importance of human life or our relationship to him.
 
Why ignore my example? Sometimes people are just good for goodness' sake. Even religious people.

Sure. It was a simple critique of "objective morality" compared to secular morality.

Think about this: Evangelical Christians believe that the moment they accept Christ they are saved. No future sins could rob them of this salvation. So what motivation is there to keep doing good? They nevertheless keep doing good.

I would argue that they do a lot of immoral shit.

Fair enough. I just think life can be VERY hard on this earth. So hard sometimes that it's not worth living anymore.

Come on man. It's not that hard. Loved ones dying is the hardest it gets, and killing yourself is just handing your misery off to everyone that loves you.
 
Sure. It was a simple critique of "objective morality" compared to secular morality.



I would argue that they do a lot of immoral shit.



Come on man. It's not that hard. Loved ones dying is the hardest it gets, and killing yourself is just handing your misery off to everyone that loves you.
Not that hard for you maybe. Everyone's life is different. The mentally ill, homeless, those in poverty, those in war torn areas, etc. aren't lovin it.
 
Not that hard for you maybe. Everyone's life is different. The mentally ill, homeless, those in poverty, those in war torn areas, etc. aren't lovin it.

Is my assumption that those are not sherdog members safe enough?
 
Is my assumption that those are not sherdog members safe enough?
Not really, no. A ton of people on here have severe mental and physical problems. Tons of people with severe depression and anxiety alone on here, and everywhere really.

I have OCD, BPD, clinical depression, social anxiety, etc.
 
"Happiness is byproduct of achievement". That's another paraphrase of Nietzsche's "Life is a will to power". Modern day decadents would have you believe that happiness is absence of pain and woes, a euphoric numbness of nerves, and that you should strive to make your life as comfortable as possible. The truth is that happiness derives from overcoming obstacles, growing in power. This will to power is manifested in various ways, it differs from individual to individual. While some may seek external power in the form of wealth, social status, political supremacy, others will seek internal power in the form of self-mastery, perfection of skills, asceticism etc. Will to power is easily traced in both Napoleon and Jesus. The former sought to physically conquer the world and arrange it to fit his will while the latter sought to conquer the world spiritually with his teachings by refusing to submit to his torturers, causing people to think that his teachings must have some deeper meaning when he's ready to die for them.

Sadness, depression(bar clinic one, that's another thing completely), angst, rage appear when our will to power begins to fade. That's the point where our will to power commands us to seek death in the form of abrupt or prolonged suicide, being that taking our own lives still implies control and power and thus satisfies our will to power.

We do not seek happiness, we seek power. When we find it, happiness accompanies it and we make the mistake in thinking that this feeling is what makes it worthwhile but in reality, it is the struggle that made it worthwhile. While we're fighting for something, we feel pressure and want to give up, but when we accomplish that for which we were fighting, we come to the realization that it's nothing special and that it was the struggle that made it beautiful.

You problem of lack of purpose is all present. It is the humanity's main enemy. Anyone with half a brain and intellectual honesty will tell you that life has no universal intrinsic purpose, because it doesn't. Still, that doesn't mean that self-assigned purpose doesn't exist. And before you confuse what I am talking about with "Pick a random thing and try to feel passionate about it", I will say that in order to feel genuinely fulfilled, your self-assigned purpose must stem from your deepest, most intimate passion - your primary mode of existence. The very core of your being, that which drives you to go ever forward. I know what it's comprised of in my own case, bu what it is for you, I cannot tell you because I don't know. Only you can find that answer.

My advice to you is to reminisce and look for patterns throughout your life. What is that one thing that always made you feel happy, no matter the age you were and external circumstances that befell you? That is the manifestation of your will to power. Find the answer to that and you'll know what to pursue.

If it doesn't match that criteria, you will not persevere.


This is an interesting post that should not go unnoticed. I will say a few things. . .

Not everyone is the same. I think your post applies to a certain subset of the population, but not everyone. Mostly because:

1. There are people who do not genuinely seek power, they instead seek happiness in relationships
2. Not everyone has passion

In regard to this second point, I have a friend, a self-described lazy fuck who cares about nothing. He has no passion in life. And nothing that he has ever pursued has ever resulted in more than mild interest. We could of course argue that he just hasn't found his TRUE passion, but I think some people just don't have it in them.

The point here is that when attempting to formulate psychological truths, we have to include the entire range of human psychology.
 
Not really, no. A ton of people on here have severe mental and physical problems. Tons of people with severe depression and anxiety alone on here, and everywhere really.

I have OCD, BPD, clinical depression, social anxiety, etc.

And what, i dont have my own list of problems? You deal with it instead of letting it get the best of you.
 
Smoke some dmt or go to peru and do ayahuasca
See for yourself what its all about
 
Sure. It was a simple critique of "objective morality" compared to secular morality.


Most charities are connected in some way religious organizations. Seems like we'd have more secular charities.



I would argue that they do a lot of immoral shit


Well they're human, so yeah.

But this is to suppose that the non-religious, paradoxically, are somehow saints who are moral to the core.


Come on man. It's not that hard. Loved ones dying is the hardest it gets, and killing yourself is just handing your misery off to everyone that loves you.


Is that really as hard as it gets? I can think of worse.
 
And what, i dont have my own list of problems? You deal with it instead of letting it get the best of you.


I think the problem here is that you just haven't faced a problem yet that "could get the best of you." That doesn't mean that such a problem isn't out there.

An apt analogy is an MMA fighter who wins a few fights and thinks he's invincible. Then he gets KOd.
 
This is an interesting post that should not go unnoticed. I will say a few things. . .

Not everyone is the same. I think your post applies to a certain subset of the population, but not everyone. Mostly because:

1. There are people who do not genuinely seek power, they instead seek happiness in relationships
2. Not everyone has passion

In regard to this second point, I have a friend, a self-described lazy fuck who cares about nothing. He has no passion in life. And nothing that he has ever pursued has ever resulted in more than mild interest. We could of course argue that he just hasn't found his TRUE passion, but I think some people just doesn't have it in them.

The point here is that when attempting to formulate psychological truths, we have to include the entire range of human psychology.

We are all driven by will to power. The only difference is in what direction it takes us and how it manifests itself. Don't fool yourself by thinking that there are exceptions to this rule. Your friend's disinterest in everything is nothing more than a feeble attempt to negate his own will to power, that was born out of him not being successful in anything, that was itself born out of his will being weak due to him not training it. Had he been more successful in his pursues, he would have changed his tune.
 
We are all driven by will to power. The only difference is in what direction it takes us and how it manifests itself. Don't fool yourself by thinking that there are exceptions to this rule. Your friend's disinterest in everything is nothing more than a feeble attempt to negate his own will to power, that was born out of him not being successful in anything, that was itself born out of his will being weak due to him not training it. Had he been more successful in his pursues, he would have changed his tune.


Be careful of being certain of anything. This isn't a world that lends itself to certainty of any kind.
 
Sounds to me you all need cats in your life.
Cats makes you happy, gives your life quality, harmony and peace.

I can be hired for only 25.99 /h.
 
And what, i dont have my own list of problems? You deal with it instead of letting it get the best of you.

Herpa derp. Do your problems include severe mental illness? If not you don't know at all what it's like or what you're talking about. "Regular" people always seem to have this idea that severe mental illness is something you just power through with positive attitude or mental fortitude. That isn't how it works. Your entire personality is just chemical responses caused by neurotransmitters. If your brain is fubar and not regulating these chemical responses correctly you are fucked for life.


Doesn't mean you can't live a successful life, but the depression is never going to go away fully no matter what you do. People always look at fucked up people and say "if I was in their shoes". Guess what though, if you were in their shoes you'd have to deal with being fucking crazy so it wouldn't be so simple. Waking up feeling like shit every day sometimes for years at a time. Your thoughts following you into your dreams so there's never a break. Knowing what you;re thinking or feeling isn't logical, but being unable to stop. If you don't have depression don't judge people that do. Just enjoy your normal functioning brain that you did absolutely nothing to earn, it was just handed to you. So don't act superior.
 
Be careful of being certain of anything. This isn't a world that lends itself to certainty of any kind.

Skepticism has it's uses. This is not of them.

Show me a human being, and given enough time to study him, I will show you how everything he does is a manifestation of will to power. I will also show you how one's will to power, when it starts to weaken, manifests itself as a will to death as one last attempt to assert itself.
 
I think the problem here is that you just haven't faced a problem yet that "could get the best of you." That doesn't mean that such a problem isn't out there.

An apt analogy is an MMA fighter who wins a few fights and thinks he's invincible. Then he gets KOd.

Ok then kill yourself. That's what you're resigned to it seems. You don't want encouragement. You want to stay down, like a defeatist pussy.

I can't help you with that.

(Please don't kill yourself, btw).
 
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