Why is it OK to be racist against Asians?

[LionExMachina]

and as for what mccain said, i think he should kind of get a pass. not good that he sai it, but understandable considering what he went through

He should be held to a higher standard regardless.

How many of his own men did he kill again?

The man was never very competent at politics, flying planes or being a good husband (person.).

 

[RIPWarrior]

I see Asians as sitting on the side lines laughing and shaking their heads at black and white people going at it.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

That's just the tip of the iceberg..

What does UCLA stand for?

"University of Caucasions Living among Asians."

 

[Zankou]

point proven, most of the responses seem to be jokes. Why can't people discuss this as any other social issue, why is it just a big joke? The hypocrisy

To honestly answer your question, I think it's for the same reason that people don't care much about racism and stereotypes towards Jews: When you generally are in the higher tiers of society, in terms of average income, education, and health, people don't care that much unless it rises to the level of outright violence. Whites who are claiming to be victims of racism fall somewhat into this same category ... it's not that anti-white racism and hate crimes don't exist, it's that people don't care as much in the grand scheme of things, until it gets to the level of outright violence, which statistically is rare.

Prevailing Asian stereotypes are a mix of good and bad ("smart ... but unathletic" etc). That's how almost all stereotypes work. Ideally we'd all be seen as individuals, ideally there would be no hate or crime, sure. But in the grand scheme of things, Asians are not seen by most other groups as having a bad draw in the stereotype sweepstakes or in the general battle for money/education/success.

To take an obvious example, you will hear Asian laments that they are discriminated against in college admissions. This complaint tends to fall on deaf ears when you are already hugely overrepresented at a statistical level relative to population, and the claim is that they should be even MORE overrepresented.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

It's OK because they're successful. They're minorities that have to have higher goals than white people when it comes to quotas as well. Where whites needs a 4.0 GPA to get into college, an Asian needs around a 4.3. Asians also don't bitch and complain too much because they're too busy being productive members of society.

Bingo...

 

[Jack V Savage]

considering about 50% of your posts say this exact same thing jack, i think people got your point by now

I don't think you're very good at math. But anyway, the answer to the question of what is wrong with you is that you're probably just pretending to be a dumb right-wing stereotype, the way you used to pretend to be a dumb left-wing stereotype.

 

[Lodbrok]

did not read all that bull.

 

[ProBoxingInsidr]

He should be held to a higher standard regardless.

How many of his own men did he kill again?

The man was never very competent at politics, flying planes or being a good husband (person.).

not sure how many he killed. did he torture any of them? little difference but since he is a republican, i guess that doesnt matter. and what does his being a shitty politician have to do with it? amazing how so many people can never ever separate politics from anything else

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Hmmm interesting view point. Personally as a white male, Asians are my favourite minority race (not Indians, just east Asians).

Most of the people in my undergrad / postgraduate program were of oriental decent and were all hard working and intelligent people.

I haven't seen too much severe racist directed towards them as I have seen towards black and brown people... so many just where you are from?

Also, maybe because Asians have a much higher ability to gain advanced education and careers over black people that some may feel like it's just in good fun to make fun of orientals?

No idea really.

 

[ProBoxingInsidr]

I don't think you're very good at math. But anyway, the answer to the question of what is wrong with you is that you're probably just pretending to be a dumb right-wing stereotype, the way you used to pretend to be a dumb left-wing stereotype.

true, it is probably higher. and yes, i know how dumb it is to give credit to asians for rising above. i need to start encouraging them to act like victims like guys like you want everyone to be

 

[LionExMachina]

not sure how many he killed. did he torture any of them? little difference but since he is a republican, i guess that doesnt matter. and what does his being a shitty politician have to do with it? amazing how so many people can never ever separate politics from anything else

About 167.

Couldn't care less if he was republican or not so stop with that whining. Mindless adherence to left/right paradigm will be thhe the death of your country

Amazing, eh?

 

[NeoNinjaFC]

omg, really? i said that about asian drivers. it was a friggin joke (but still true). i am sure somehow asian people will be able to overcome my horrible insensitive words.

you know why its "ok" to be racist against asians? its because they are, for the most part, busy accomplishing shit to spend time worrying what other people say. in fact does any color besides blacks really spend too much time worrying about it?

basically i see four groups of people obsessing about being discriminated against. Blacks, fat people, atheists and gays. you can also include illegal aliens in that group. nobody else seems to give a shit. the groups i listed just want to be given special privileges instead of equal footing. asians say fuck you, i will do it myself. and of course that isnt everyone in all those groups so get over it if my generalizing offends you. and the ones who tend to get most offended by comments like these are whiny white liberals who are none of the above and just have a stupid guilt complex for stuff they shouldnt


edit- i just read the rest of your post and discovered you are asian. crap, i hope the whining that is enveloping the rest of the world isnt taking hold on asians as well.

you are taking to the victim role well though. only a true "victim" can turn a comment about driving into a condemnation on your coordination and athletic ability. perhaps if you werent asian you would realize that asians cant drive! jesus


White Men Cant Jump scarred me!!

It's not just you, I'm speaking on a larger issue. Your whole post you spend 2 paragraphs talking about how you judge people as individuals then you make a stereotypical remark about asians. Why? because you know you can.

Nice of you to throw the victim label on me just for speaking out on a social issue that is rarely addressed, labels like that stop productive discussion. Why don't you throw the victim label on all the white posters here for their 2 million posts a day about white victimization. Why the double standard?

Btw, I am personally not that offended by the asians can't drive stereotype, but I don't like it. It reminds me that people have no filter when it comes to asians. Like in my last workplace people would just come up to me and make stupid offensive racial jokes for absolutely no reason.

Show me some statistics that asians can't drive if you believe it to be so true that an entire race is unable to drive a car due to some innate disability? Why are remarks against asians "just a joke" to you. How would you like it if I said "all white people are racist" but you know it's just a joke.

And why are you generalizing the sentiment of Asians against racism. Most Asians I talk to are in fact very vocal about the double standard, most I talk to experienced bullying and discrimination growing up and many are upset at the double standard, or in the case of asians triple standard:

1)minority
2)politically correct to be racist against
3)can't speak out against it

How do you know that Asians aren't affected by it? we are just like anyone else. Some brush it off, some don't, some actively question it and fight it. I probably know a lot more asians than you and I can tell you that we discuss this issue all the time with friends and family. Not every asian is a successfull hard working math nerd, many are living in poverty or struggling to pay their bills, family problems, depression, drug problems. It's a diverse group, don't generalize or marginalize.

 

[ProBoxingInsidr]

Hmmm interesting view point. Personally as a white male, Asians are my favourite minority race (not Indians, just east Asians).

Most of the people in my undergrad / postgraduate program were of oriental decent and were all hard working and intelligent people.

I haven't seen too much severe racist directed towards them as I have seen towards black and brown people... so many just where you are from?

Also, maybe because Asians have a much higher ability to gain advanced education and careers over black people that some may feel like it's just in good fun to make fun of orientals?

No idea really.

that isnt gonna go over well

 

[ProBoxingInsidr]

About 167.

Couldn't care less if he was republican or not so stop with that whining. Mindless adherence to left/right paradigm will be thhe the death of your country

Amazing, eh?

so you think how many people he killed in a war is the equivalent to his being tortured and held as a pow? um ok

 

[LionExMachina]

so you think how many people he killed in a war is the equivalent to his being tortured and held as a pow? um ok

Nope.

 

[Josh]

Asians "are in the higher tiers of society, in terms of average income, education, and health"?

Really, all 4.4+ billion of them? Have you been around Asia much?

Which brings me to my point. If anyone is being racist towards "Asians", ask them who specifically they are stereotyping, and when they can't provide an answer, dismiss them as ignorant and move on.

 

[Zankou]

Obviously (I thought) we were talking about the US, going by the original post.

If we were talking about China or Uzbekistan or something, we'd be talking about a VERY VERY different set of Asian stereotype and issues ....

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

In the other thread about mob violence, one forum member makes a long post about how he judges a person as individuals and doesn't believe in any racial stereotypes with the exception that Asian people can't drive.

Btw, if you think that's not a harmful stereotype it's because you don't know where it comes from. The notion that Asians are these blundering, uncoordinated, unathletic people who can't judge space and distance. I drive just fine, so do my asian friends and family. Asians score highest on visual spatial tests than any other race, yet we are considered unable to even perform the most basic functions like driving a fucking car.

Even in threads that are about anti-racism you still see many people jokingly ripping on Asians, small dicks, weak physically, can't drive, nerds. Why is it OK? Every time a Asian fighter loses a fight in the UFC, you see in the threads people saying it's because they have less testosterone, built like women, etc.

Theres a million people here who bitch about blacks targeting whites because they are seen as weak targets, yet both whites and blacks seem to do this to asians with asians being the most bullied race in America. It seems to me many people are frustrated that they cant speak out against blacks because it's too un-PC so they take it out on Asians and ridicule them. Even though Asians have half the crime rate of whites and Asian on White crime is practically non-existent.

More than half of Asian American teens are bullied in school, 54% the highest out of any race. Also White on Asian crime is the least punished form of racial crime in the U.S.

Read about the Vincent Chin story, an asian man was savagely beaten and killed by 2 white men in Detroit, he was specifically targeted because he was Asian, the 2 white men were angry that Detroits auto industry was fading due to Japanese imports and there was less jobs. When the case went to court the judge cleared both men of all charges even though not because there was no evidence, the men confessed to the crimes and it was clear that they murdered this man. The reason for the aquittal: the judge said that the 2 men were justified in killing this man because they lost their jobs due to foreign competition and they were angry about it and wanted to take it out on an asian person.

The actor Mark Wahlberg randomly attacked an Asian man because of his race, the victim was left savagely beaten and blinded in one eye for life. He received a light sentencing and went on to become a hollywood star. Yet nobody really condemns him for his actions, seems like violence against asians gets you pretty far in this society.

Senator John McCain makes the remark " I hate G00kz" yet is there any backlash? Does the news even cover it? No, he is regarded an american hero that is infallible. Or they say " oh, he was a POW" so he can use that kind of racial slur".

When people talk about the history of racism in the US do they mention the Japanese internment camps? Do they mention the Chinatown race riots that were more violent than the race riots against black communities? Do they mention the Chinese exclusion act? Do mention Asian portrayal and dehumanization in the media? Do they mention the Yellow Peril phenomenon? The LA Koreatown riots and the police with no help from the police? Do they mention the fact that Asians are the most bullied race in America while being the most peaceful and law abiding?

Seems like when an Asian speaks up people are quick to brush it off as another silly chinaman speaking on big boy issues, " leave the race talks to the blacks and whites silly man" or they will marginalize it and say " nobody hates asians". Well if that is true then why are they the most bullied race in America? Often victims of hate crimes and violence? Why are crimes against asians the least punished? Why is it considered politically correct to be racist against them?

I want the cycle of violence, hate and ridicule to stop against asians, this issue needs to be discussed because I am sick of people victimizing my people just because they think its OK to do so.

Asians aren't minorities in the social sense, By and large they simply don't fit the profile, in the sense we think of the term here in America.

 

[Yodsanan]

who is the last Male Asian "hollywood" "media" star that was classifed our could be perceived as "sexy" or "alpha" or "manly?"

 

[Josh]

In North America, "Asian" is just as likely to mean Chinese or Indian or Filipino or Japanese, and is essentially useless for describing stereotypes.