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Why is a failed drug test an NC, not a DQ?

fzoid4454 said:
Obviously, it's not meant to be literal/serious, but it's just a stupid, pointless, tired, been-there wisecrack, isn't especially original or clever, and really has nothing to do with what's being discussed. Which only emphasizes the obsession the Jones non-fans seem to have with him.

The fact that ANYTHING is an excuse to make those "wisecracks" validates the point I made in my response.
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But I like Jones :(
 
I don't even think DQ wins should be a thing, only if the guy who got fouled was clearly winning the fight give him a technical decision or throw out the fight and make it a NC. It only complicates the records.

Same with drug tests, if the guy who pops wins make it a NC, if the clean fighter wins keep the win.
 
CasualBot said:
No Contest... Means No Result.

No idea how that is confusing.
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No contest means changing the status of the result FOR A FIGHT THAT HAPPENED to the equivalent of "no result."

But "no result" <> "never happened." No contest is for fights that occurred, and the outcome of the fight is voided.

If a fight never happens, like if it gets CANCELED, as it would for flu, staph, then there's not a "No Contest" on the record. There's nothing on the record, at all. So, no, those fights don't exist. Which is not the same as being on the record with a "no contest" as the official result.

"No idea how that is confusing."
 
fzoid4454 said:
No contest means changing the status of the result FOR A FIGHT THAT HAPPENED to the equivalent of "no result."

But "no result" <> "never happened." No contest is for fights that occurred, and the outcome of the fight is voided.

If a fight never happens, like if it gets CANCELED, as it would for flu, staph, then there's not a "No Contest" on the record. There's nothing on the record, at all. So, no, those fights don't exist. Which is not the same as being on the record with a "no contest" as the official result.

"No idea how that is confusing."
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It's literally "No... Contest"

No idea how that is confusing to you.

Was never stating the actual rules bud,
Wake the fuck up.

"No contest should be reserved for the flu, staph, etc..."

(To be clear, you're the one confused)
 
CasualBot said:
It's literally "No... Contest"

No idea how that is confusing to you.

Was never stating the actual rules bud,
Wake the fuck up.

"No contest should be reserved for the flu, staph, etc..."

(To be clear, you're the one confused)
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It's literally A FIGHT THAT HAPPENED that is "no contest." There has never been a fight that happened where the result was changed to "no contest" because of a staph infection or flu that a fighter had during the fight.

You said "no contest" SHOULD be for staph infections, flu, etc, but, no, it isn't. Cancellations are for staph infections, flu, etc. "No contests" are actual fight outcomes. I know that you know that isn't how it's done. But it's also not how it SHOULD be done, because, again, they CANCEL fights for the situations you said "no contest" should be reserved for.

So, it's not just about whether the PED fights should be no-contest or not. I don't care whether it's a DQ or a NC. It's about you stating that it ONLY should be applied in cases where it should actually never be applied..... because those fights never happen, at all.

As I said before, your statement, stating otherwise, made no sense.

"Wake the fuck up." - You made a stupid statement that made no sense. Choosing this hill to die on just makes you look like an even more ignorant and stupid asshole.
 
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Mittens said:
What are you saying, then? Please enlighten us.
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I'm commenting on the fact that an obsession with Jones leads to people making stupid and pointless comments.

I think Jones is an asshole, as a person, but the idiotic statements about him and unique, Jones-only standards that his anti-fans want to hold him to are just stupid.

Their stupidity doesn't change whether I like or dislike Jones, nor whether you like or dislike him.
 
Steroids don’t magically give you fighting abilities, helps recovery though but cheating is cheating.
 
fzoid4454 said:
I'm commenting on the fact that an obsession with Jones leads to people making stupid and pointless comments.

I think Jones is an asshole, as a person, but the idiotic statements about him and unique, Jones-only standards that his anti-fans want to hold him to are just stupid.

Their stupidity doesn't change whether I like or dislike Jones, nor whether you like or dislike him.
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I think you are putting way too much thought into harmless silly little joke. I mean I get you are now branching out to examining the memetics of Jones fandom on a grander scale and have quite much left me and my original comment out of it. Fair enough.

I do think you kinda lashed out at me for no reason originally, the "lives in your head" comment really was unnecessarily hostile. But I think I get what you are aiming at, in the grand scheme of things. Motives are hard to gauge from contextless comments - which is why I really wanted to hear yours, and explained mine. Misunderstandings are the root of many woes in the world.

Sometimes a joke is just a silly joke and a cigar is inside Ms. Lewinsky.
 
fzoid4454 said:
It's literally A FIGHT THAT HAPPENED that is "no contest." There has never been a fight that happened where the result was changed to "no contest" because of a staph infection or flu that a fighter had during the fight.

You said "no contest" SHOULD be for staph infections, flu, etc, but, no, it isn't. Cancellations are for staph infections, flu, etc. "No contests" are actual fight outcomes. I know that you know that isn't how it's done. But it's also not how it SHOULD be done, because, again, they CANCEL fights for the situations you said "no contest" should be reserved for.

So, it's not just about whether the PED fights should be no-contest or not. I don't care whether it's a DQ or a NC. It's about you stating that it ONLY should be applied in cases where it should actually never be applied..... because those fights never happen, at all.

As I said before, your statement, stating otherwise, made no sense.

"Wake the fuck up." - You made a stupid statement that made no sense. Choosing this hill to die on just makes you look like an even more ignorant and stupid asshole.
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It's two words.

No (as in ...none)
and
Contest (contend/compete)

You're unhinged.

<suzylol>
 
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