Why doesn't Chris Weidman get credit for beating Anderson Silva?

Why doesn't Chris Weidman get credit for beating Anderson Silva?

  • Anderson was completley past it, a defenseless old man

    Votes: 64 30.3%

  • Chris went in there and did what no one else could yet do

    Votes: 147 69.7%
  • Total voters
    211
HHJ said:
Cos we all seen that shit.


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Anderson let him win . He lost his mind in there
 
Mostly because he completely fell off shortly afterwards. He was on a path to being considered the GOAT middleweight with consecutive wins over Anderson x 2, Machida, and then Belfort. Then he went on a 3-fight losing streak and 7 out of 10 and became just a footnote.

If he retired after Belfort, his legend would be bigger than Khabib's.
 
Well Chris was just finished again. That is 8 losses in his last 10 fights over nine years. If anyone thinks Weidman didn't beat up an old man one only needs to look at Chris' career from 2015 on.
 
NoStoneUnturned said:
Well Chris was just finished again. That is 8 losses in his last 10 fights over nine years. If anyone thinks Weidman didn't beat up an old man one only needs to look at Chris' career from 2015 on.
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One has nothing to do with each other.
 
Because it was two fluke wins.

Weidman is the most overrated middleweight in the history of MMA all because of two fluke wins against Anderson Silva.
 
I remember someone made a top 5 peaks thread earlier in the week and there is a good case for Weidman being low on that list for his MW run as champ beating Munoz, Maia, Andy 2x, Vitor, Lyoto. He was a beast for a short period of time and I'm sure most mma fans appreciate that about Chris.
 
The f*ck are you talking about?
 
Weidman is more washed than Silva now
 
Andy was past is prime for few years by then, maybe if weidman had more defenses and still beating young guys at 36 or 37 we could compare them, but we can't and never will
 
Joshua8531 said:
It was Silva's time. The first 4 Silva won because he was a champion. Outclassed Hendo, survived again Cheal (Greatest comeback ever) at the same time were rumours Silva had bruised ribs but didn't pull out. Made CS quit in the rematch.

Every fighter can be beaten, Silva 10 title defences speaks for itself.

Was Weidman's time. Anything could have happened in the second fight. Leg gave out has happened before will happen again.
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I'm not hating on Silva at all, but those 4 fights could have easily gone the other way, and Silva hugely benefitted from really bad fight IQ from those 3 fighters. Travis Lutter is a 10-6 fight (today). If he actually had decent cardio, he probably would have beaten Silva.

Hendo had success on the ground, but decided to get into a slugfest with Silva knowing that Silva was the more technical striker.

Chael we all know has terrible submission defense, yet he had success for 4 and a half minutes. He was also on his way to beating him again in the rematch until he did the spinning backfist.

Every fighter can be beaten, but Silva benefitted a lot from a division with not a lot of wrestlers at the time. This was way before he had aged out too. Could say the same case with Conor at 145 lbs and 155 lbs until Khabib came and destroyed him. Looking back, there's a good chance GSP would have probably beaten him using the Chael/Weidman gameplans.
 
Foghorn Leghorn said:
Thanks for writing this because it sums up what I think too.

Anderson had some of the craziest striking moments ever in the UFC, so people overlook this stuff. For me, he's the most flawed of the GOAT contenders because he had this very clear weakness (that, to his credit, he managed to overcome until Weidman came along).
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Yea, to Anderson's credit he knew his wrestling was a weakness, so he relied on really good jiu jitsu to make up for it. He also benefitted from a lot of strikers and jiu jitsu guys during his run. He didn't encounter the elite wrestleboxers until near the end, so people will always use his age as an excuse. But if he faced Weidman earlier in his run, there's a good chance he would have still lost because the blueprint to beat him had been there by lesser fighters.
 
Because he beat one of the most beloved fighters at the height of his popularity. When you are in love it's hard to accept things that go against the object of your love.
 
because hes overrated and we all know deep down it was a fluke and anderson was past his prime.
he only could beat over the hill fighters as we just saw tonight when hes faced with fighters his same age
he gets bullied
 
First fight Chris intentionally checked looking to snap Andy's leg and did it in a fight he was losing the second time he faught the 40 year old and was able to clip him and by then Silva already had his leg snap past his prime and was having mental breakdown issues over his leg ..
 
What? His entire career is based on him beting Silva.
 
TheGreenMachine said:
Yea, to Anderson's credit he knew his wrestling was a weakness, so he relied on really good jiu jitsu to make up for it. He also benefitted from a lot of strikers and jiu jitsu guys during his run. He didn't encounter the elite wrestleboxers until near the end, so people will always use his age as an excuse. But if he faced Weidman earlier in his run, there's a good chance he would have still lost because the blueprint to beat him had been there by lesser fighters.
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I rewatched Marquardt/Anderson and I'm convinced Weidman beats the 32-year-old version of Silva that beat Nate. Looking back on this fight, there is a weird stand up by Big John that didn't really seem merited. I don't remember anyone ever really talking about that, I suppose because Anderson did well in the striking before/after the ground fight.

But I think that's why I wanted to see the rematch at the time, because Nate seemed to get hit with one good strike on the feet, and one on the ground and then quit despite having a lengthy period of ground control.

I think it's fair to question Anderson's juicyness when it comes to his age, because if he was on something when he was older, it probably would have helped extend his prime as we have seen with other fighters/athletes.
 
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