Why couldn’t anybody else knockout Anderson Silva so far except Weidman?

[PalmStrike]

Seriously though...

Chris Leben, Forrest and Franklin had ZERO chance and we all knew it.

Cote was doing well till he got hurt.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Weidman is like Johny Hendricks in that they both had a very short peak, but at their peak they were monsters. So when people consider how bad they looked at the end, they forget how good they were while briefly on top.

Weidman didn't defeat Silva because he got lucky. He was winning very moment of both fights. 2013 The Chris > 2013 Silva by a wide margin.

 

[greenseeker]

This is really pretty simple.

Chris was comfortable enough standing up and could do whatever he wanted on the ground. Anderson needed to create an opportunity to get the finish on the feet or he was going to either get subbed or lose a decision, so he did what he normally does, taunt his opponent. Normally this leads them to make a mistake which he can capitalize on, but Chris stayed patient and composed. Anderson doubled down on the taunting trying to get a bad reaction, but instead left himself open and got blasted.

 

[OmegaRugal]

They weren't fluky because Weidman was winning every minute of both fights, and hurt Silva repeatedly prior to both finishes. They were more than just catching Silva. They were dominant performances.

Silva loses nearly every first round vs a strong grappler.

Nothing different.

 

[HHJ]

Weidman was a threat with his striking as well as his grappling, he also made Anderson move into his left hook which is Weidman's best punch. He didn't fight anyone else like Weidman and very few people doubled up on punches from one side against Anderson so he got used to just swaying back and forth to dodge strikes from alternating sides.

If you needed to build a fighter that would beat Anderson,it would be Weidman

 

[Dirge]

Chris was in his pre-USADA state (both bigger and faster) combined with the fact that they were pretty fluky KO's.

If they weren't fluky ... then show Weidman's other KO's that came in similar fashion? What? He never broke anyone else's leg with a check? I wonder why not?

PS Weidman WON both times fair and square just like how Serra won against GSP fair and square.

That doesn't mean they weren't fluky and they are not likely to happen again.

1. Silva was pre-USADA as well and Silva not Weidman pissed hot twice post USADA

2. Fluky? Weidman was beating the crap out of Silva before the ko in the first fight. He dropped him in the second fight as well before the leg break.

Silva fought the same way he does in every fight and Weidman smashed him.

Why do rabid Silva fans always feel the need to diminish what Weidman accomplished?

And who is questioning the Serra fight? Serra caught GSP with a good punch and was smart enough to swarm him. No controversy there. Just like JDS took out Cain in their first fight and Conor finished Aldo.

 

[blaseblah]

Silva loses nearly every first round vs a strong grappler.

Nothing different.

Silva didn't just get outgrappled, he got outstruck, punched repeatedly in the face, dropped, and beaten in every facet of MMA. He wasn't able to land any strikes other than leg kicks, which got his leg broken in the rematch. He was shut down. Nothing in either fight suggests he had anything for Weidman.

 

[TrueBias]

he got caught. Shoudl've kept his hands up.

Thats basically it. He show boated in other fights, but in this show boat, chris landed the most clean. Not a "fluke" but he did give this fight away and is now chinny.

Dumbest fucking move that a Greatest could do.

 

[moogie101]

I don't call it flukely because in both fights Weidman was doing well & the knockout punch was a shot he meant to throw. An overly confident Anderson was being his usual playful, cocky self but Weidman wasn't having any of it & instead of being impressed like everyone else he kept coming forwards & throwing hard shots. And The Chris back then was a different fighter from the one today, which is absolutely nothing to do with USDA testing.

 

[Cylence]

Weidman was quite literally raised to beat him. When Anderson made his debut as a professional, Weidman was 13 years old. By the time Weidman made his professional debut, Anderson was already three years into his dominant championship reign. By the time he reached the UFC, Anderson had completed nearly a five year stretch as champion.

Weidman knew that Anderson was the man to beat in his division, and had certainly been studying him loosely since at least his professional debut in 2009. He had studied all his tricks. His taunting, his feeling out process, his strengths in the clinch, his weaknesses on the ground, his unintended openings, his bait counters.

Anderson, for his part, I guarantee didn't even know who the hell Weidman was until at least 2011. Maybe even 2012, after the Maia fight.

Combine this with the fact that Weidman was always a stylistic nightmare for Anderson with the threat of the takedown, it was a recipe for disaster. Anderson had no magic that night, Weidman didn't believe in his tricks anymore.

TL;DR: Weidman's years of preparation, studying, and grappling threat combined with Anderson's years of dominance exposing nearly all of his tricks lead to his downfall.

 

[GrantB13]

His position was terrible. Basically had no chance to roll with the punch because he was already at the very end of his lean. He just had to absorb the whole strike without really defending it at all.

 

[Melas Chasma]

Because Silva was/is that good on the feet.

 

[czitos188]

The only reason Weidman knocked Silva out was because Silva's stupid games. He wanted another Forrest Griffin esque higlight reel from the fight.

 

[TheComebackKid]

Anderson was at his peak arrogance and didn't have much respect for Weidman. He had also begun to decline physically and clearly past his prime as a fighter. He clowned around too much and got caught. The second fight was a freak accident.

Amderson weathered the first round storm and was on his way to winning both fights before random and fluky things happened.

It hasn't happened again because thats the nature of flukes.

 

[TheComebackKid]

Weidman was quite literally raised to beat him.

Lol

 

[Karelinator]

Weidman was pretty damn good, before he dwindled after numerous surgeries and fighting once a year.

And he was terrible match up for Anderson. TD threat, clinch threat, stand up thread.

Who could KO Anderson after Weidman, really?

Nate Diaz - well, yeah
Bisping - nope
Cormier - sure as hell could, but wrestled 90% of time, and generally played it very safe.
Brunson - doesn't really do anything as well as Weidman
Adesanya - no grappling threat, favorable striking matchup for Anderson, so he could still hang
Cannonier - fight ended very quickly

Weidman was quite literally raised to beat him. When Anderson made his debut as a professional, Weidman was 13 years old. By the time Weidman made his professional debut, Anderson was already three years into his dominant championship reign. By the time he reached the UFC, Anderson had completed nearly a five year stretch as champion.

Weidman knew that Anderson was the man to beat in his division, and had certainly been studying him loosely since at least his professional debut in 2009. He had studied all his tricks. His taunting, his feeling out process, his strengths in the clinch, his weaknesses on the ground, his unintended openings, his bait counters.

Anderson, for his part, I guarantee didn't even know who the hell Weidman was until at least 2011. Maybe even 2012, after the Maia fight.

Combine this with the fact that Weidman was always a stylistic nightmare for Anderson with the threat of the takedown, it was a recipe for disaster. Anderson had no magic that night, Weidman didn't believe in his tricks anymore.

TL;DR: Weidman's years of preparation, studying, and grappling threat combined with Anderson's years of dominance exposing nearly all of his tricks lead to his downfall.

Plus this.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

If you needed to build a fighter that would beat Anderson,it would be Weidman

And a close second would be Jacare IMO.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Silva loses nearly every first round vs a strong grappler.

Nothing different.

It was absolutely different, Anderson got hit hard twice on the ground in the first fight at least one of which caused his head to bounce off the canvas and had to escape 2 submission attempts. In the rematch he got knocked down in the clinch in round one. No other wrestlers did anything close to that to Anderson.

 

[OmegaRugal]

It was absolutely different, Anderson got hit hard twice on the ground in the first fight at least one of which caused his head to bounce off the canvas and had to escape 2 submission attempts. In the rematch he got knocked down in the clinch in round one. No other wrestlers did anything close to that to Anderson.

Well Silva's chin was never the same after that first lost to Weidman but he still recovers well as was shown in that second Weidman fight and in the Bisping fight.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Well Silva's chin was never the same after that first lost to Weidman but he still recovers well as was shown in that second Weidman fight and in the Bisping fight.

He didn't lose just cause of his chin or taunting or whatever single thing you want to blame it on. Weidman was a terrible match up for him and proved it in both fights putting Anderson in danger of being finished in the first round twice in a row.