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Why are Republicans against Net Neutrality?

We have shit line service in America and if we allow these monopolies to continue the price will go up while service goes way down.

This is what I'm worried about . . . up until last October I was forced to use wireless broadband for my home internet connection. Thankfully, AT&T figured out that they were able to offer my home Uverse and things have been great ever since.

There are tons of other rural parts of the US that could benefit from expanded services, but that's not what these big companies want.

My parents are even more rural than I am and they've got fiber running within 1/2 a mile of their house.
 
In RETURN, they must abide by certain rules. One of which is to lay out broadband access to more rural areas. The ISP's agreed to do this and still have NOT held up their end of the bargain.

If those ISP's wanted to do what they want with their infrastructure, they should have paid for it all themselves 100%. But that's not what happened. They took huge subsidies and tax breaks and in return agreed to abide by certain rules (one of which was net neutrality)

But now they are trying to have their cake and eat it too.


Exactly.
 
The cable companies, if they got their way, will treat it just like cable.

"Oh we offer the basic internet with Youtube for $59.99 a month."

"We have basic internet with Youtube and Netflix for $69.99 a month."

Etc...

This is the kind of shit some of the conservatards are defending.

The implication is the complete corporate control of modes of communication where an ISP could basically just prevent large segments of the population from accessing certain information.

I think that's an incredibly dangerous possibility and I think most people really don't understand that. NN isn't about Big Govt. intervention, it's about Big Govt. trying to prevent corporations from selectively manipulating the stream of information in the internet to their or their political crony's benefit.
 
doesn't matter what party, Internet need to be left alone.
 
The implication is the complete corporate control of modes of communication where an ISP could basically just prevent large segments of the population from accessing certain information.

I think that's an incredibly dangerous possibility and I think most people really don't understand that. NN isn't about Big Govt. intervention, it's about Big Govt. trying to prevent corporations from selectively manipulating the stream of information in the internet to their or their political crony's benefit.

Exactly.

And there is another element to the story that is not being played out in the media.

If the ISP's were granted these powers, they would not only have regional internet MONOPOLIES against their consumers (us people) but also MONOPSIES (against the content providers).

"In economics, a monopsony is a market form in which only one buyer interfaces with would-be sellers of a particular product."

Basically, the internet providers like Comcast (which owns NBC) will be the only buyer of content (A&E channel, Spike TV, etc)

Independent channels and digital content companies like Netflix will only have ONE buyer of their content in every region. Thus, scumbag companies like Comcast can completely dictate the terms of their distribution deals and favor their OWN NBC offerings. And if this Comcast-Time Warner merger goes through, it will only get worse.

i.e. - Comcast owns NBC. "Oh Netflix is super slow!!- why don't you instead our try new NBC-run Netflix alternative! It's much faster!!"

That is why there is so much pushback against the ISP's from Google, Netflix, Facebook and other tech companies.
 
Soros, Ford shovel $196 million to 'net neutrality' groups, staff to White House


Liberal philanthropist George Soros and the Ford Foundation have lavished groups supporting the administration’s “net neutrality” agenda, donating $196 million and landing proponents on the White House staff, according to a new report.

And now, as the Federal Communications Commission nears approving a type of government control over the Internet, the groups are poised to declare victory in the years-long fight, according to the report from MRC Business, an arm of the conservative media watchdog, the Media Research Center....



“The Ford Foundation, which claims to be the second-largest private foundation in the U.S., and Open Society Foundations, founded by far-left billionaire George Soros, have given more than $196 million to pro-net neutrality groups between 2000 and 2013,” said the report, authored by Media Research Center’s Joseph Rossell, and provided to Secrets.



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...y-groups-staff-to-white-house/article/2560702[/QUOTE]

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I'm From The Government And I'm Here To Help
 
The US I supposedly rated somewhere in the 30s with broadband and line access speed.

That's absolutely pathetic.

And this is a perfect example where the government and smaller companies should be working together to get lines up much faster.

If we leave it to te monopolies well get worse and worse service for higher and higher prices.

Comcast and all the others are grubby money hungry scam artists and ther victims are the public.
 
The same reason republicans are against the following, because they are ignorant and downright stupid:

Equal pay for women
Accepting climate change
Gun control
Against women's right to choose
Immigration issues
Legalizing marijuana
Invading countries to bolster the military industrial complex
Keep punishing Cuba
Blindly supporting Israel at all costs
Against gay rights
Wage ongoing war against unions
Keeping prostitution illegal (but once filmed its ok)

Do I need to go on?
 
TS, if you listened to Limbaugh's segments against Net Neutrality and STILL have no clue as to why Republicans are against it... you suck at listening.
 
The same reason republicans are against the following, because they are ignorant and downright stupid:

Equal pay for women
Accepting climate change
Gun control
Against women's right to choose
Immigration issues
Legalizing marijuana
Invading countries to bolster the military industrial complex
Keep punishing Cuba
Blindly supporting Israel at all costs
Against gay rights
Wage ongoing war against unions
Keeping prostitution illegal (but once filmed its ok)

Do I need to go on?
lol @ those being only Republican issues.
 
The same reason republicans are against the following, because they are ignorant and downright stupid:

Equal pay for women - I'm a registered republican and I have no problem with equal pay
Accepting climate change - All I know is it's freaking cold out
Gun control - Use two hands
Against women's right to choose - She can choose all she wants, but I'm free to disagree
Immigration issues - No amnesty, but make the process more efficient
Legalizing marijuana - Treat it like tobacco
Invading countries to bolster the military industrial complex - Invading the right countries for the right reason is never wrong
Keep punishing Cuba - For what exactly?
Blindly supporting Israel at all costs - There is a happy medium on this issue, we need to find it
Against gay rights - I'm not against treating everyone fairly, but I'm also free to disagree with the things you do
Wage ongoing war against unions - To what end?
Keeping prostitution illegal (but once filmed its ok) - Pr0n = prostitution?

Do I need to go on? - Yes, please explain how those issues are limited to republicans

Responses in yellow . . .
 
Originally Posted by CauseImbetta View Post
The same reason republicans are against the following, because they are ignorant and downright stupid:

Equal pay for womenIf they perform the same job of course they should get the same pay and it is the law. The gender wage gap is bull shit.
Accepting climate changeOf course the climate changes there was the whole ice age and mini ice thing. The only question is mans effect verses natural effect and sun induced cycle.
Gun controlAs stated that's two hands. And what we need is more criminal control.
Against women's right to chooseUp to what point is the only question.
Immigration issuesYes we need to control our border first and I have no problem with legal immigration. As to those here once we control the flood then we can talk about who stays and who goes back.
Legalizing marijuanaI've got no problem with this for personal use.
Invading countries to bolster the military industrial complexSome times we needed to do this most of the time we need to stay out of it.
Keep punishing CubaWe should have been working to normalize with Cuba a while back.
Blindly supporting Israel at all costsWe have a middle ground on this.
Against gay rights
Wage ongoing war against unionsThey have their place but some have forgotten who they rep,
Keeping prostitution illegal (but once filmed its ok)I don't have any problem with this but how to protect the woman is another matter.

Do I need to go on?

See red.
 
Does the internet really need government regulation and even more government monitoring?

Does the stock market and banking need regulation? What could possibly go wrong....

Derp.
 
follow the money

Nailed it it just three words.

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because it gives power to the government under the assumption that they will only do good things with that power

but its not even transparent, they passed a bill without saying whats in it, and just promise us that its for our own good

i feel like i say it a lot, but it operates under the assumption that the government will protect citizens from evil money hungry corporations. its open knowledge that politicians make decisions based on wealthy campaign contributors rather than the average voter. giving the government more power over private business just allows them to help private business stomp on people. just like how obamacare protected us from health insurance companies by forcing us to be their customers no matter what
 
Too many of these threads, great article


Proponents of Net Neutrality say the telecoms have too much power. I agree. Everyone seems to agree that monopolies are bad and competition is good, and just like you, I would like to see more competition. But if monopolies are bad, why should we trust the U.S. government, the largest, most powerful monopoly in the world? We’re talking about the same organization that spent an amount equal to Facebook’s first six years of operating costs to build a health care website that doesn’t work, the same organization that can’t keep the country’s bridges from falling down, and the same organization that spends 320 times what private industry spends to send a rocket into space. Think of an industry that has major problems. Public schools? Health care? How about higher education, student loans, housing, banking, physical infrastructure, immigration, the space program, the military, the police, or the post office? What do all these industries and/or organizations have in common? They are all heavily regulated or controlled by the government. On the other hand we see that where deregulation has occurred, innovation has bloomed, such as with telephony services. Do you think we’d all be walking around with smartphones today if the government still ran the phone system?







Free speech cannot exist without privacy, and the U.S. government has been shown to be unworthy of guarding the privacy of its citizens. Only the latest revelation of many, Glenn Greenwald’s new book No Place To Hide reveals that the U.S. government tampers with Internet routers during the manufacturing process to aid it’s spying programs. Is this the organization we trust to take even more control of the Internet? Should we believe that under Net Neutrality the government will trust the telecoms to police themselves? The government will need to verify, at a technical level, whether the telecoms are treating data as they should. Don’t be surprised if that means the government says it needs to be able to install its own hardware and software at critical points to monitor Internet traffic. Once installed, can we trust this government, or any government, to use that access in a benign manner?





Many of us see the U.S. government as a benevolent and all-knowing parent with the best interests of you and me, its children, at heart. I see the U.S. government as a dangerous tyrant, influenced by large corporate interests, seeking to control everyone and everything. Perhaps these diverging perspectives on the nature of the U.S. government are what account for a majority of the debate between proponents and opponents of Net Neutrality. If I believed the U.S. government was omniscient, had only good intentions, and that those intentions would never change, I would be in favor of Net Neutrality and more. But it wasn’t all that long ago that FDR was locking up U.S. citizens of Japanese ancestry in concentration camps and Woodrow Wilson was outlawing political dissent. More recently we’ve seen the U.S. government fight unjust wars, topple elected democracies, and otherwise interfere in world affairs. We’ve seen the same government execute its own citizens in violation of Fifth Amendment rights guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution. Simply put–I don’t trust the U.S. government. Nor do I trust any other government, even if “my team” wins the election. I see any increase in regulation, however well-intentioned, however beneficial to me today, as leading to less freedom for me and society in the long term. For this reason those who rose up against SOPA and PIPA a few years ago should be equally opposed to Net Neutrality.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshstei...et-neutrality/
 
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