Social Why are evangelicals against sex ed?

[Thurisaz]

Trolling as a mod is low. Can't put you on the ignore list as another useless bubber despite considering you one.

 

[Scheme]

Do people really not know that jizzing in a chick makes her pregnant? How dumb is our population that that even needs to be taught in the first place?

 

[Falsedawn]

Do people really not know that jizzing in a chick makes her pregnant? How dumb is our population that that even needs to be taught in the first place?

Why do people brush their teeth twice a day?

Why do people hold the door for women?

They were probably taught by someone, almost certainly when their mind was pliable enough to take the lesson.

If you don't teach people that condoms are important, they probably won't use them. If you're even dumber and attach it to a religious imperative, then they almost assuredly won't use them. Abstinence only states having a higher rate of teen pregnancy than rational states bears that out.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

What do you think, is it loving to demand that one's spouse submits to one's every urge? There's a reason I don't have to enforce my rights.


Of course breaking the contract means that it is over. You don't with someone who agrees to sell you a car and keeps it, do you?


You didn't leave much ambiguity as to whether you're as malicious as you're lacking in logic. We're done here.

Do you believe in marital rape?

 

[Thurisaz]

Do you believe in marital rape?

No.

 

[PUO3]

I'm not "an evangelical", I'm merely a Christian, but I can answer.
1) Sex isn't for recreation, but procreation. It belongs in marriage. Fornication is evil and it damages the soul.
2) Sex ed promotes and tries to normalize perversions to impressionable youths.
3) Sex ed teaches that porn and masturbation are great. Porn is evil, masturbation useless.

How do you condone and watch human cockfighting up on that delusional moral highground?

 

[Trotsky]

Many evangelical friends I have absolutely struggle with sex in marriage.

You grow up being told day in and day out sex is bad then you get married and it's now ok go enjoy.

You now are married to someone who has been told to be ashamed of their sexual desires on both sides and you wonder why people aren't having a healthy sexual relationship in their marriage.

This is seriously tragic. And having grown up in a conservative Protestant household (I guess that would be under the umbrella of Evangelical, although it's a pretty vague term) I totally get it.

 

[Thurisaz]

How do you condone and watch human cockfighting up on that delusional moral highground?

I hold no such high ground. I'm pretty much as guilty of living in sin for the majority of my adult life as anyone. I like MMA, though do not consider the sport a moral one. No professional sport is.

 

[PUO3]

I hold no such high ground. I'm pretty much as guilty of living in sin for the majority of my adult life as anyone. I like MMA, though do not consider the sport a moral one. No professional sport is.

Ah. Ok glad you dont believe any of that nonsense you posted.

 

[Thurisaz]

Ah. Ok glad you dont believe any of that nonsense you posted.

I don't post nonsense nor is my faith pretense.

 

[ultramanhyata]

It's as much a "proof positive"of that as it is of the moon being made of brie. I'm not sorry to ignore you.

A person who has become a believer in Christ choosing to consciously marry an unbeliever is in direct and fundamental opposition to the teachings of the apostles and the practice of the early Church. Almost nothing could be clearer. But feel free to just make up the rules of your phony religion as you go, dude.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Can some of the evangelicals here answer this conundrum

One does not need to be an Evangelical to know that all religions based on the desert Skygod are sexually repressive prudes.

 

[PUO3]

I don't post nonsense nor is my faith pretense.

Well, you yourself dont follow it, so clearly you dont believe what you posted. Which would tell me you also think its nonsense.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

Catholicism believed in in the Rhythm method as the only acceptable form of birth control until the Vatican II reforms in the 1970s, it's not a uniquely evangelical concept

I think it's both a combination of A) people shouldn't take over the role of 'God' in determining conception, and B) they want to ensure more followers in future generations

 

[Thurisaz]

Well, you yourself dont follow it,

I do follow it with all my heart and soul. I'd prefer you stop trying to guess and speculate; you're as annoying as you're wrong.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Any time someone points out how you are wrong you declare they are lacking logic and give up the argument. Demonstrate the logical failure or admit you were wrong.

If your wife, if you have one, does not want to have sex with you at a particular time, you have no right to force yourself upon her and she has not broken any contract with you.

To think otherwise is inhuman. Society has moved on from that ugliness and we're better for it.

It's never right to force yourself on someone but if your spouse "never" wants to be intimate I do think that is valid grounds for divorce.

 

[no fat chicks]

Well I hope that at least some of the folks here who are against sex ed realize they hate abortion more and dont actively try and suppress sex ed policy in school.

 

[eworden78]

I'm not "an evangelical", I'm merely a Christian, but I can answer.
1) Sex isn't for recreation, but procreation. It belongs in marriage. Fornication is evil and it damages the soul.
2) Sex ed promotes and tries to normalize perversions to impressionable youths.
3) Sex ed teaches that porn and masturbation are great. Porn is evil, masturbation useless.

I saw a quote on twitter the other day, it was in response to a different subject, but I think it applies here.

They assume you're committing the naturalistic fallacy (is -> ought), because they're committing the moralistic fallacy (ought not -> is not).

The fallacies I see from many conservative Christians, is that if you teach of these different perversion that exist, and of different ways of dealing with sexual urges, you are essentially making a moral statement. Education should, for the most part, be morally neutral. Education deals primarily with "is", religion deals primarily with "ought". "Ought not" does not equal "is not", "is" does not imply "ought".

Nothing prevents a Christian from layering their own moral structure (the "ought") on top of the knowledge from sexual education (the "is").

 

[CauseImbetta]

Proven that schools that teach safe sex have lower rates of teen pregnancies. Less teen pregnancy means less abortions.

Seemingly you would think they would push for this but instead they do the complete opposite. . .

Can some of the evangelicals here answer this conundrum

Because religion retards the brain. Turns off any form of critical thinking.

 

[Trotsky]

Entering marriage gives the consent for the spouse to have sex with one. It does not give the power to end someone's sex life. If one wants to withdraw the consent at will, I'd advise not getting married.

Good lord, dude.