Why Americans sucks in rugby?

[Rimbaud82]

it's boring to watch.
no gracias

 

[Rimbaud82]

Rugby is soccer's gay cousin.

<{cruzshake}>

 

[Mga223]

Women's union team is in the final against Canada in the 7s lol

 

[Rimbaud82]

Women's union team is in the final against Canada in the 7s lol

Looks like Canada won in the end, fair play though!

 

[Gus Fring]

http://m.bbc.com/sport/olympics/rio-2016/medals/countries

 

[faustian]

Rugby? lol

 

[Hollywood Jack]

The US national rugby team basically consists of hobbyists and hipsters, and what little A-level athletes are there are basically there by accident. For instance Nate Ebner is a freak athlete whose dad was obsessed with rugby and guided his son into playing that sport instead of American football like most American dads would. So Nate became so great at rugby that he became the youngest person ever to make the national team at age 17. A few years later, he'd never played football in his life, but he walked on to the team at Ohio State (elite football college) and almost immediately became a star and then got drafted by the Patriots a few years later. Nate was able to do double duty in 2016 by playing full time for the Patriots while also representing the US in rugby at the 2016 Summer Olympics. If rugby was more popular in the US, you'd have more studs like that competing in the sport, but the people with the best genetics for rugby end up making millions in the NFL instead.

 

[Foots]

Rugby fans are pretty easily triggered is what I'm learning lol

Apparently there is only one rugby fan here frantically defending his sport. LMAO.

 

[paratiddies]

I saw a sports science show that compared rugby and football hits - basically the football hits with pads were 4x as violent because defenders are able to launch themselves into ball carriers while holding nothing back. No matter how hard they tried the rugby guys would hesitate just enough prior to impact that it lessened the impact significantly

Pads end up helping the guy delivering the blow exponentially more than the guys on the receiving end

 

[Rimbaud82]

Apparently there is only one rugby fan here frantically defending his sport. LMAO.

Yep, well sherdog is mostly american so naturally not many rugby fans. And I'm not "frantically defending" my sport, just correcting dumb comments

 

[Foots]

I saw a sports science show that compared rugby and football hits - basically the football hits with pads were 4x as violent because defenders are able to launch themselves into ball carriers while holding nothing back. No matter how hard they tried the rugby guys would hesitate just enough prior to impact that it lessened the impact significantly

Pads end up helping the guy delivering the blow exponentially more than the guys on the receiving end

Of course. Football will always be more violent. Ice hockey a close second.

 

[Sunfish]

Because it's not a real sport.

Third string NFL players would dominate rugby.

Would they fuck, I watch both sports, don't be ignorant. Tell me last time you saw a rugby player having to have oxygen on the sideline. And tel me last time a rugby player would've been the quickest in the NFL, clue, it's Brian habana.

And whoever said the other countries about American football they play it in England's college team played someone in division 2 and lost by nearly 70 points.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Imagine an NFL all star team against the world in America football.

Lmao.

THe entire world would be dead.

 

[armbarforhire]

USA sports rely too much in explosiveness and A level atlethes and not much in hard work, tactical play and skills, Patriots are some of the few exceptions and they usually dominate teh NFL .

 

[A Pennysworth]

Basically the US only funds obscure sports that only they are good at. The exception being Woman's Soccer.

 

[vcmmafan]

Rugby isn't a mainstream sport in the US. Not many people practice rugby. It's essentially an amateur niche sport here.

People only like American Football, Basketball, Baseball, Hockey. Soccer (football) is the 5th most popular sport. Rugby isn't even on the radar. Other than universities having rugby clubs few people care.

 

[Augusto Skeffington]

has anyone said pussy americans need pads in football while real men play rugby which is basically the same thing without pads yet?

Pads? They're weapons. They make the game much more violent. In the way that boxing with gloves is more violent than bare-knuckle. Gridiron football is much more damaging than rugby.

 

[Augusto Skeffington]

has anyone said pussy americans need pads in football while real men play rugby which is basically the same thing without pads yet?

Richard Tardits played for French and US national rugby teams and for the Georgia Bulldogs and New England Patriots said that the collisions on the gridiron are simply far greater than anything in rugby. Simply no comparison, in his words. I say this as a fan of both sports.

 

[Rimbaud82]

Richard Tardits played for French and US national rugby teams and for the Georgia Bulldogs and New England Patriots said that the collisions on the gridiron are simply far greater than anything in rugby. Simply no comparison, in his words. I say this as a fan of both sports.

Well I mean it's not rocket science is it. In NFL you wear pads, allowing you to fling yourself around with reckless abandon. In rugby you have no protective gear. In NFL there doesn't seem to be many rules about tackling technique either. When I watch it I often see guys literally just flinging their body/helmet roughly in the direction of the ball-carrier, at the knees, helmet to helmet hits etc. Not to mention you can just annihilate some poor guy in mid-air:

Extremely tough and great to watch, but not exactly safe. In the interests of not crippling our players rugby has rules about how you can tackle. Ie. you have to make an attempt to wrap your arms and can't take a player out in mid-air. Even in rugby league where you could shoulder charge they recently banned it a few years ago. So obviously when you have to mindful of things like that you aren't gonna see big hits as often.
But really...it's just the way the two sports are different. In NFL the players are all spaced out, means guys can get a run up on someone before the smash them. Then you have the nature of the forward pass ie. safeties can just line someone up and blindside them when they are already coming at speed. Plus you get rest after every play, and there is so little actual game time compared to rugby, obviously guys can go all out.
I'd say NFL is more purely violent than rugby, in general the hits tend to be bigger because of everything I just said. Rugby still has big hits, obviously, but in general is more of a grinding, constant physicality with rucks (or hit-ups in rugby league) and way less breaks.
But if someone is able to read the play perfectly and come out of the line you still get hits like this:

 

[MadSquabbles500]

The US national rugby team basically consists of hobbyists and hipsters, and what little A-level athletes are there are basically there by accident. For instance Nate Ebner is a freak athlete whose dad was obsessed with rugby and guided his son into playing that sport instead of American football like most American dads would. So Nate became so great at rugby that he became the youngest person ever to make the national team at age 17. A few years later, he'd never played football in his life, but he walked on to the team at Ohio State (elite football college) and almost immediately became a star and then got drafted by the Patriots a few years later. Nate was able to do double duty in 2016 by playing full time for the Patriots while also representing the US in rugby at the 2016 Summer Olympics. If rugby was more popular in the US, you'd have more studs like that competing in the sport, but the people with the best genetics for rugby end up making millions in the NFL instead.

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