Social Why Americans are so Fat

[mozfonky]

Make it a longer “time” in the future.

No one here likes you or your long winded, half baked condescending theories. Let me guess, you’re from the UK. Fix your bloody teeth, chappie.

Oh that's fucked up.

 

[Cipushka]

Because they eat a lot.

 

[Trabaho]

A tomato ok. I'm American as an American I endorse the tomato

Tomatoe ftw, tomatoe for the rescue.
American very fat. I teach american how to tomatoe.
Can I feed american carrot ?
Or will "they/theirs" die from vitamin A intolerance

 

[fingercuffs]

All I know is Atlanta Airport has some of the largest human beings you will ever see.

Also Dallas Cowboy games

Too many fried foods, beer. Chips. Cookies in large ass Portions

I noticed a gigantic difference in size in Virginia. You saw a lot more supermarket mobility scooters in Norfolk compared to 3 hours north in Fairfax in the DC metro area. Considerable less fatties moving to California.

 

[Renard]

you sound like you have no respect for us, I like that, give it to me baby.

I have a musician friend who tours, he's a fat fuck (don't tell him i said that) but he claims that he eats the exact same things in europe and always loses weight. That's what makes me think a factor is what is in our food.

I noticed that I'm less hungry when in Europe. Depleted soils making food less nutritive in America maybe? Not sure what it is.

 

[FléauDeDieu]

I have so much excessive fat skin I need to get surgery to get rid, even after I went down in weight from 250lbs to 175lbs. Personally, when I look back at it now, my parents made me one of threes meals for dinner most of the time (we were working class in Rural Ireland)

Smashed Potatoes + something
Spaghetti
Chips (French Fries to Americans) + something

Anything else we had was frozen dinners last minute, rather than making something together. I never realised now how little my parents could actually cook until I decided to teach myself a few things when I was around 10-12 and started learning things like Chicken Curry, stir fry, omelettes etc.

I do like cooking now, but I find I'm most filled up when I skip breakfast and maybe lunch for Dinner instead. More importantly, when I have something I try and go as long as possible before having that again. That means I have variety in the one meal I have or make, it also means less time spent cooking and cleaning and shopping and washing and all the headaches that come with that. Ah, it's time to go and make pizza!

 

[mozfonky]

I noticed that I'm less hungry when in Europe. Depleted soils making food less nutritive in America maybe? Not sure what it is.

that could be. I notice for myself, my appetite is waning as I age yet, I'm not really dropping weight. It's probably something about the food.

 

[Fury]

Mmmmm, yeah, but I think it goes deeper than that.

Common sense tells you that a person is going to eat at restaurants more often when on vacation than when at home.

Chicken in diabetes sauce for every meal abroad = no weight gain

Chicken in diabetes sauce for 75% of meals at home = weight gain

Seems like the industrial food in the US is just shittier than the industrial food everywhere else. It's possible to eat healthy here but you REALLY have to try. You have to have the knowledge, the willpower, time, etc. This is probably why it's the middle class and above who can do it while the poor remain fat.

I've traveled and I've never seen the same things you get chains here be common elsewhere. I just don't eat places that get most of their food from a jar. It's not hard and it's no more expensive, at least where I live, to eat at local owned places that make actual food. If it is, see below

Buy things to make something less terrible. Google for recipes. It's not expensive. Yogurt, some herbs, vinegar and small amounts of butter are probably going to cover most recipes. People have most of those things. Tell me how hard it is to look this up.

The information is easier now more than ever. Same with exercising, YouTube has plenty of videos on starter exercises for people severely out of shape.

The cultural problem is really a problem of Americans not wanting to make a sacrifice.

It's harder for some people financially and culturally but if 40% of people are obese, there's a lot of people who could do something about it. I'll feel bad for the maybe 10% who can't afford better or the ones who are kids.

If you're not willing to switch your snack from chips to a banana, which you know are better and bananas are dirt cheap, as an adult...I don't know what's going to help you but you don't want to help yourself.

It's not the time, it's the giving up the sweet, salty and saturated fat food they love. If they don't want to put in the effort, they'll miss out on benefits like every shit not being an emergency and being able to use the stairs in a fire.

That said, I do think schools should teach healthy life skills as parents clearly aren't.

Edit: my longest post ever I think

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

Oh that's fucked up.

Yea, it was a knee jerk reaction. I apologized of sorts later though.

 

[mozfonky]

I believe that our post ww2 generations aren't living as long in many cases just due to all this garbage. I know our average lifespan is going up but so many people are croaking way before 74 that I know. And most of them have been at least 100 pounds overweight at some point and probably had addictions to drugs and alcohol.

 

[mozfonky]

Yea, it was a knee jerk reaction. I apologized of sorts later though.

oh no, don't let me stop you, tell them like Jerry Lee Lewis did in the biopic, "y'all woulda lost the war without us".

 

[Osculater]

Because they eat a lot.

 

[Osculater]

Tomatoe ftw, tomatoe for the rescue.
American very fat. I teach american how to tomatoe.
Can I feed american carrot ?
Or will "they/theirs" die from vitamin A intolerance

Actually, carrots contain β-Carotene

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

*The More You Know

 

[Trabaho]

Actually, carrots contain β-Carotene

Yes and the rest of the world converts it to vitamin A.

 

[TeTe]

If you're trying to get jacked though that usually involves bulking and cutting cycles and that probably isn't great for you in the long-run, even when done in moderation. You're essentially forcing your body to go where you want it to.

I firmly believe in maingaining. Since I started tracking macros daily over the past few years I have only gone from 185-86 to 188-190 in that time. That is probably mostly muscle gain. Ive always eaten at maintenance calories over the years because I hate the idea of bulking and cutting.

 

[HomeCheese]

I haven't been to the states in some time and I forget how bad it is in the states in regards to health and obesity.

One of my good friends who's also lived abroad for years and recently moved back to Virginia has been telling me what it's like and I'm vicariously getting reverse culture shock with the shit she's telling me about how people eat and live.

One of the most shocking things my friend told me was she went out grocery shopping with her friend and friend's cousin, and the cousin who's in her mid 20s, picked up a fruit and said, "What's this?" It was like a pear or something common, not a rare exotic fruit. This grown woman only ever ate candied versions of fruit that she never seen what they actually look like.

It seems Americans have totally different conception of what "healthy" eating is. People eat shit like chicken tenders and fries all the time and think their obesity is genetic. I've met people who think I'm some kind of health freak because I eat vegetables. I even knew a guy in his 30s who had scurvy for Christ's sake.

Americans are the only group of adults I've met who have discussions about which fast food place is better.

There's no two ways about it: Americans are fat as fuck. Obesity rates in other countries are increasing but I haven't seen the giant behemoths in other countries like I have in the states. It's an entirely different class of "fat."

This must have something to do with education (or lack thereof) and laziness, to tie it in with my other thread, but I wonder if mental health plays a part as well. Why else would anyone give up on themselves to the point they can't fit in a car or need a mobility scooter? Why are we turning into depressed, low IQ, fat lazy fucks?

Other factors like lack of public transportation and over reliance on cars. Nobody walks or bikes anywhere because of the lack of infrastructure.
There really isn't a wider culture of walking or hiking or generally being active. It seemed to me that people in general were outside more in other countries, even in countries that get cold.

There also seems to be a weird extreme where people are either obsessed with fitness and looking jacked (which isn't necessarily healthy either), or they're just fat slobs.

Maybe it's because it's so much easier in the US to order something cheap and shitty than to go out to a restaurant where it'd be more expensive and you'd have to tip on top of it. Definitely easier than buying groceries and cooking yourself.

I know sherdoggers aren't the best sample size since we're all jacked 6'6 +220 lbs of muscle, but I can't be the only one who's disturbed by this?

It's true, I sometimes look at other people's carts at the grocery store. You see a fat person pushing a cart and take a look inside, frozen food and soda. Our government allows all kinds of additives in our food that probably should be banned.

Many Americans eat like shit.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I've traveled and I've never seen the same things you get chains here be common elsewhere. I just don't eat places that get most of their food from a jar. It's not hard and it's no more expensive, at least where I live, to eat at local owned places that make actual food. If it is, see below

Buy things to make something less terrible. Google for recipes. It's not expensive. Yogurt, some herbs, vinegar and small amounts of butter are probably going to cover most recipes. People have most of those things. Tell me how hard it is to look this up.

The information is easier now more than ever. Same with exercising, YouTube has plenty of videos on starter exercises for people severely out of shape.

The cultural problem is really a problem of Americans not wanting to make a sacrifice.

It's harder for some people financially and culturally but if 40% of people are obese, there's a lot of people who could do something about it. I'll feel bad for the maybe 10% who can't afford better or the ones who are kids.

If you're not willing to switch your snack from chips to a banana, which you know are better and bananas are dirt cheap, as an adult...I don't know what's going to help you but you don't want to help yourself.

It's not the time, it's the giving up the sweet, salty and saturated fat food they love. If they don't want to put in the effort, they'll miss out on benefits like every shit not being an emergency and being able to use the stairs in a fire.

That said, I do think schools should teach healthy life skills as parents clearly aren't.

Edit: my longest post ever I think

It is hard though, because if it was easy, you'd have about the same percentage of people from all the social classes being obese. But all the classes are not evenly represented. If 40% of the total population is obese, it's probably 60-70% of the poor and around 20% of the wealthy, or something like that.

Anyone that's been to a Walmart in a poor area but also a Whole Foods can attest to this.

So things like having the willpower to break from bad eating habits, self-discipline, and delayed gratification are easier for people that are better off and/or who have more formal education.

 

[Fury]

It is hard though, because if it was easy, you'd have about the same percentage of people from all the social classes being obese. But all the classes are not evenly represented. If 40% of the total population is obese, it's probably 60-70% of the poor and around 20% of the wealthy, or something like that.

Anyone that's been to a Walmart in a poor area but also a Whole Foods can attest to this.

So things like having the willpower to break from bad eating habits, self-discipline, and delayed gratification are easier for people that are better off and/or who have more formal education.

Easier maybe but I never really hear it's hard and many people don't ask for help. What I do hear is, that's because "you have a fast metabolism" and "I will still be fat if I eat like you". My metabolism is normal and I have to eat differently at 41 than when I was 25. Like most people, I had a period where I gained like ten pounds when I got a bit older. Like some people, I got rid of it. This is why I don't buy into the "it's the food here", it's the food they choose to eat here. The trying they conveniently "know" it won't work.

Maybe it's like the gym where people think it's like a bad 1980's movie and everyone will be mean if they ask questions. In reality, in every gym I've ever been in, people are super helpful if you're nice.

Honestly, I'm inclined to let people go to hell in whatever way they want, just keep your excuses to yourself and feed the kids some fucking vegetables.

 

[Natural Order]

This has become a comical projection from non-American westerners onto Americans to feel better about their own expanding waistlines. Notice to Europeans: be quiet, look in the mirror, you're fat as fuck, too. Just because you're a little less fat doesn't mean you're in a position to cluck your tongues. Some highlights:

Prevalence of obesity in the Adult Population, 2022

• Argentina = 26.3%
• Australia = 30.2%
• Brazil = 28.1%
• Canada = 26.2%
• Croatia = 30.6%
• Czechia = 26.0%
• Germany = 20.4%
• Greece = 28.0%
• Hungary = 31.7%
• Iceland = 21.2%
• Ireland = 28.3%
• Mexico = 36.0%
• Netherlands = 14.5%
• New Zealand = 33.6%
• Norway = 19.1%
• Peru = 27.3%
• Poland = 27.5%
• Qatar = 43.2%
• Sweden = 15.3%
• Russia = 24.2%
• Saudi Arabia = 40.6%
• Ukraine = 23.6%
• United Arab Emirates = 32.1%
• UK = 26.8%
• USA = 42.0%

Now here's what those numbers should look like:

• Japan = 5.5%

For perspective, when I was a kid, when Europeans first began relentlessly mocking us for being a bunch of fat fucks, in the early 90's, the prevalence of American obesity (in 1991) was 12.0%.

Me thinks she doth protest too much.