Social Why Americans are so Fat

Did you know that Mike Tyson in his prime would be considered obese on a BMI scale? I'm 5'10, 188 lbs and 16 percent bf and I'm considered overweight by BMI standards.

It's pretty funny.
 
Contempt said:
I don't think that anyone is suggesting that the government should force people to eat healthy, just to actually teach them how to be healthy and make sure they have access to healthy, non fucked up food to eat.
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This might be where regional differences come into play. We had mandatory health class grades 6-12. I'm 41, so this is not a recent development.

There are "food deserts" but most people who are obese have access to good food. They're lazy. I never see anyone buying packages of unhealthy "meals" like say frozen lasagna who don't also have ice cream, chips and so on in their cart.

I still had friends who ate McDonald's three times a week and had dessert every night. They were fat and most hated their parents for it when they got to high school.

So I think the problem is teaching the parents. Both how to eat healthy and to not be lazy, prioritize your kid's health.
 
TeTe said:
Did you know that Mike Tyson in his prime would be considered obese on a BMI scale? I'm 5'10, 188 lbs and 16 percent bf and I'm considered overweight by BMI standards.

It's pretty funny.
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yup, my doc told me that, any way you cut it, having excess mass isnt good for us, be it muscle or fat.
 
Us Aussies are quite obese too ! I think it's due to the fact that, in Australia at least, entire families leave home without a decent breakfast, stop at Mac's, gouge down junk food galore, have unhealthy snacks during the day, go back to Mac's for lunch (esp kids), have other unhealthy snacks in the afternoon and 80% of the time go back to Mac's for dinner......get what I mean ???
I'm lucky coz my g f is Italian and she COOKS every single day. I mean, I grew up with Mac's and Burger King, but since my parents were half Italian too, I used to eat heartily and healthily at home !!!!! :):)
 
TeTe said:
Did you know that Mike Tyson in his prime would be considered obese on a BMI scale? I'm 5'10, 188 lbs and 16 percent bf and I'm considered overweight by BMI standards.

It's pretty funny.
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there is one truth there
we are generally bigger than most others muscle etc..
I live in ast Asia and most call me fat. I am 5'9 and 220 but have a bf% in the low 20s as a weight lifter.

that being said we all know those huge numbers aren't all jacked bros....
not even close
 
zapataxiv said:
there is one truth there
we are generally bigger than most others muscle etc..
I live in ast Asia and most call me fat. I am 5'9 and 220 but have a bf% in the low 20s as a weight lifter.

that being said we all know those huge numbers aren't all jacked bros....
not even close
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I've been called fat by fobby Asians
 
It's the country of extremes, most jacked people are there too
 
Another issue is the social aspect food, which I think the US doesn't have compared to countries like Spain, France, or Italy. Some of these people take forever to eat a relatively small meal with some wine because they spend most of the time talking. There's a huge social element to eating but in the US people are much more individual and want to eat fast.

I can counter my own point with Japan, where people tend to eat alone, but they also have smaller portions and focus on quality over quantity.

Fury said:
This might be where regional differences come into play. We had mandatory health class grades 6-12. I'm 41, so this is not a recent development.

There are "food deserts" but most people who are obese have access to good food. They're lazy. I never see anyone buying packages of unhealthy "meals" like say frozen lasagna who don't also have ice cream, chips and so on in their cart.

I still had friends who ate McDonald's three times a week and had dessert every night. They were fat and most hated their parents for it when they got to high school.

So I think the problem is teaching the parents. Both how to eat healthy and to not be lazy, prioritize your kid's health.
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The way parents feed their kids is one of the biggest issues I see. If you see fat ass kids, very likely the parents are fat asses as well. And the kids are being fed the same crap that their parents eat. Remember that story of this little girl a while back who was so fat she literally rolled around the house?

It's straight up abuse in my opinion. And the sad thing about it is that it's more common than it should be. I knew a family with little kids who are +100lbs overweight respectively. The parents are extremely overweight and they just threw up their hands like they didn't know what they could do because their genetics doomed them. Meanwhile they only ate fast food and frozen dinners no joke.

When I used to compete, I would order salads or dishes with a lot of vegetables and I had friends who would look at my plate with disgust or even pity me because I can't eat "real food." These were always people who were overweight. If you think kale with chicken isn't real food, it explains why you have weight problems.
 
TeTe said:
Did you know that Mike Tyson in his prime would be considered obese on a BMI scale? I'm 5'10, 188 lbs and 16 percent bf and I'm considered overweight by BMI standards.

It's pretty funny.
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Having enough muscle to effect your bmi is roughly zero percent of the population. I’m an inch taller than you and 32 pounds heavier but with a similar bodyfat. Outside of a fairly serious gym I am not going to run into someone like me. For everyone else bmi is pretty damned accurate.
 
Contempt said:
I'm talking about American government stats on obesity with sample size in the millions and you instead pick two of the most garbage papers in the country with some made up statistics with no credibility at all, to try and smear Australians?

Don't know why you just randomly decided to be a cunt on this issue but you do you dude...
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hahha, just fucking with you. good morning.
 
pugilistico said:
Another issue is the social aspect food, which I think the US doesn't have compared to countries like Spain, France, or Italy. Some of these people take forever to eat a relatively small meal with some wine because they spend most of the time talking. There's a huge social element to eating but in the US people are much more individual and want to eat fast.

I can counter my own point with Japan, where people tend to eat alone, but they also have smaller portions and focus on quality over quantity.


The way parents feed their kids is one of the biggest issues I see. If you see fat ass kids, very likely the parents are fat asses as well. And the kids are being fed the same crap that their parents eat. Remember that story of this little girl a while back who was so fat she literally rolled around the house?

It's straight up abuse in my opinion. And the sad thing about it is that it's more common than it should be. I knew a family with little kids who are +100lbs overweight respectively. The parents are extremely overweight and they just threw up their hands like they didn't know what they could do because their genetics doomed them. Meanwhile they only ate fast food and frozen dinners no joke.

When I used to compete, I would order salads or dishes with a lot of vegetables and I had friends who would look at my plate with disgust or even pity me because I can't eat "real food." These were always people who were overweight. If you think kale with chicken isn't real food, it explains why you have weight problems.
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When I was a kid, I wanted to go eat McDonald's or ice cream more like my friends. As an adult, I'm glad my parents weren't retarded.

The habit of eating actual food stuck with me though. It's sometimes funny when people stop by unannounced, I don't have any packaged snacks or anything like that. Everything says no to "I can make some food".
 
Noveltymortar said:
In the old days we had the necessary evil of fat shaming but nowadays we tell kids they're perfect even if they have the BMI of a sumo wrestler. Start encouraging the kids to insult their fat classmates again and you'll see a return to normalcy.

We could also try putting all the cheap processed foods at the end of strenuous obstacle courses.
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This particular kind of mindset seems to be buoyed by that stereotypical boomer mindset of 'when men were still men', and that crying or going to therapy is for pussies. The same goes for the notion of physically disciplining kids.

Bullying isn't a 'necessary' evil, people tend to conflate that with the importance of building resilience in young people. You can get tough without being ostracized and traumatized by your peers. Thinking that bullying kids is beneficial to them to combat obesity is just grotesquely ignorant and goes directly against any medical or pedagogic stance on the matter, no matter how many personal anecdotes the suggesting party can ham up.
 
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I feel like a lot of people have had such poor education for generations that they don't know what to eat. Then they get kids and the kids learn to eat what the parents give them and the circle continues.

It's so sad when you see parents and their kids are like 8yo and already fat.

Like what the fuck. Setting that kid up for a shitty childhood.
 
Only a personal observation but I see a big divide across the political spectrum.

The libs I know are all pretty fit. The conservatives I know are mostly pretty fat.

I don't judge the fatties. Just an observation.
 
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