Whose title is more fraudulent?

[gosuasus]

You do know that Hendricks didn't fight Costa right after fighting GSP, right?
He fought Costa 9 fights later (3 wins and 6 losses later).
You know that Whittaker didn't fight Costa either until just this year?
This is a curious narrative you're weaving but please continue.

Hendricks 1-0 at middleweight, GSP 0-0 at middlweight. It is preposterous that an active fighter who's winning is facing mandatory competition, while inactive fighter with no wins gets a direct shot at the title. This thought just crossed my mind yesterday as I was rewatching Hendricks-Costa and realizing it was on the same card as Bisping-GSP. Hilarious how ranking system and the body of work matters in one case and does not matter in other. I understand this sport isn't about meritocracy, but given the risks these guys take, it should completely be.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

The most fraudulent thing a fighter and champion can do is tap to strikes.

Jones is beyond GSP’s league but GSP is liked more due to having better character.

 

[kellier]

GSP beat the lineal HW title and retired with it.

Jon avoided Frank for 2 yrs and moved to HW once he left

 

[Ares Black]

This version of Costa Hendricks is fighting would destroy both GSP and Bisping together on this very same night.

This is the funniest fuckin thing I've heard all day.

 

[gosuasus]

Even in a loss, Hendricks gained more respect facing a young brutalizer like Costa than GSP for cherry picking an one-eyed 39 year old title holder.

 

[gosuasus]

The first time Bisping fought an actual top contender since getting the belt, he got smoked within half a round.

 

[Ares Black]

Even in a loss, Hendricks gained more respect facing a young brutalizer like Costa than GSP for cherry picking an one-eyed 39 year old title holder.

Only if you are completely detached from reality.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Bsping is ranked where he needs to be, he is a serviceable fighter who was never a top division fighter, even when he held the belt. Bisping does have a better record than Gane, which is apparent but he was never on that level. I can give Rockhold but the comparison is a joke.

Gane has grappled against actual wrestlers. Spivac is a good wrestler and is the number one at HW for take down accuracy. Spivac is a fantastic wrestler and grappler. If you watch his fights, Gane has good defensive wrestling and good submission grappling. The difference with jones is that, Jones uses Judo trips and throws on his opponents in the clinch, which makes him difficult to counter.

If he was shit grappler he would have been taken to the woodshed against Spivac.

In terms of talent and skill they are not on the same level.

Spivac has wrestling but he isn't a wrestler if that makes sense. Unless he has some sort of wrestling credentials I have not heard about which is possible. I am talking about Wrestling as their base the likes of DC, Khabib, Askren, Hendo, Randy etc.

I can agree that Cyril has more talent and skill but Bisping has better results overall. I think that comes from the fact Mike is more of a "Fighter" then Cyril. I would love to see how far Cyril could have gone if he were a MW sized guy and had to fight the variety of guys Mike did. Imagine a MW Cyril against Chael, Stann, Kennedy, Luke, Anderson, Wand. Le etc. HW is so very thin it is hard to gauge the skills of a kickboxer who has no wrestlers to test himself against.

 

[gosuasus]

Only if you are completely detached from reality.

Not sure why you are being so cynical and taking every discussion on the internet personally. You wrote bunch of messages in this thread and did not adress the talking point ONCE. You do not have to notify me if you are going to avoid mature dialogue.

 

[Ares Black]

Not sure why you are being so cynical and taking every discussion on the internet personally. You wrote bunch of messages in this thread and did not adress the talking point ONCE. You do not have to notify me if you are going to avoid mature dialogue.

You have disrespected a legend and you have embarrassed yourself.

 

[gosuasus]

You have disrespected a legend and you have embarrassed yourself.

So, you're his personal advocate? I'm sorry if my words hurt your feelings.

 

[Ares Black]

So, you're his personal advocate?

No, I am an MMA fan who has respect for the legends of the sport

I'm sorry if my words hurt your feelings.

All you did was make yourself look like a disrespectful clown.

 

[Poatan Power]

Not even sure how you think this way. Gane lost a split hair decision to Francis and then Jones dominated him. That title sequence makes sense.

Bisping was the actual champion and got finished by GSP who was a smaller, shorter fighter.

Hating just to hate.

 

[Mike]

62% of Tapology users picked Jones. 38% picked Gane.

roughly 40% isn't nobody

 

[gosuasus]

No, I am an MMA fan who has respect for the legends of the sport

All you did was make yourself look like a disrespectful clown.

Someone who isn't upset or frustrated over something wouldn't spend three days name-calling another person, especially as adults. You can interpret my words however you want, but I can guarantee you that I have more in common with GSP than you will ever have.

 

[Ares Black]

Someone who isn't upset or frustrated over something wouldn't spend three days name-calling another person, especially as adults. You can interpret my words however you want, but I can guarantee you that I have more in common with GSP than you will ever have.

You have nothing in common with GSP.

He is a gentleman and a legend.

You are a hater and a nobody.

 

[Pingu]

Didn't gsp enter usada when rockhold was champ?

Anyways i think they were both impressive as hell, but aspinal should be next.

 

[gosuasus]

You have nothing in common with GSP.

He is a gentleman and a legend.

You are a hater and a nobody.

Look, I'm aware that I'm talking to a person with 85k forum posts who evidently spent their adult life on the internet growing frustrations. At the very least, I'm not redundant to society, unlike you, and just for that alone I'll never not be proud of myself.

 

[Ares Black]

Look, I'm aware that I'm talking to a person with 85k forum posts who evidently spent their adult life on the internet growing frustrations. At the very least, I'm not redundant to society, unlike you, and just for that alone I'll never not be proud of myself.

You have nothing to be proud of.

 

[gosuasus]

You have nothing to be proud of.

I'm proud of the fact that GSP is one of the most accomplished MMA fighters to date.