Opinion Who is the leader of the Democrat party?

Who is the leader of the Democrat party?

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Good question. it's probably Obama.
Although he's smarter than what the average dem politician is like these days so maybe he's not.
 
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It's Bernie Sanders obviously, but everyone is too stupid to see it.

Bernie's been the only true leader of the Democratic party in the last my many years

But the Democratic party wants to anoint leaders. They're not interested in leaders that naturally arise organically.
 
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terrapin said:
It's Bernie Sanders obviously, but everyone is too stupid to see it.

Ernie's been the only true leader of the Democratic party in the last my many years

Bur the Democratic party wants to anoint leaders. They're not interested in leaders that naturally arise organically.
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He could’ve been. He had the opportunity but the bitch rolled over.
 
terrapin said:
No that's just hateful and tired propaganda. The problem is that the Democratic party gangs up and kills anybody that isn't going to sell out corporations.
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Why do you think Bernie continues to support a party that gangs up on him and sells out which is entirely antithetical to the core nature of his politics?
 
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Why do you think Bernie continues to support a party that gangs up on him and sells out which is entirely antithetical to the core nature of his politics?
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Because Trump is an existential threat to the whole world and about half our country is too stupid or blind or mired in sin to see it. We're in more danger than we've ever been as a country as long as Trump is on the scene.


That's why.
 
terrapin said:
Because Trump is an existential threat to the whole world and about half our country is too stupid or blind or mired in sin to see it. We're in more danger than we've ever been as a country as long as Trump is on the scene.
That's why.
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Fair point, I already knew you would justify it with Trump, understandable.

So would you accept my premise that the reason the DNC is currently on a serious downswing is because the de facto leader of the party, according to you, is consistently and likely even concertedly, being kneecapped by the majority of the higher ranks in his own party?
 
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Fair point, I already knew you would justify it with Trump, understandable.

So would you accept my premise that the reason the DNC is currently on a serious downswing is because the de facto leader of the party, according to you, is consistently and likely even concertedly, being kneecapped by the majority of the higher ranks in his own party?
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It's not justifying it using trump as an excuse the way you dishonestly frame it.

That's what's actually happening. And like I said, about half of our country is so morally bankrupt and sinful that they can't recognize a genuine villain when he comes on the scene. It's actually more than half the country in my opinion that can't see it.

I'm curious why you're asking me the second part of your post when I've already said that it's the Democrats that kill their real leaders....
 
terrapin said:
It's not justifying it using trump as an excuse the way you dishonestly frame it...
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Not to be rude, I will pin your question and ask if we can we not isolate this exchange on Trump which you and I will not agree on? I already conceded you made a fair point and gave no intention towards entering in a debate with you about him.

Would you consider reflecting on my premise instead?
SKYNET said:
would you accept my premise that the reason the DNC is currently on a serious downswing is because the de facto leader of the party, according to you, is consistently and likely even concertedly, being kneecapped by the majority of the higher ranks in his own party?
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terrapin said:
It's Bernie Sanders obviously, but everyone is too stupid to see it.

Ernie's been the only true leader of the Democratic party in the last my many years

Bur the Democratic party wants to anoint leaders. They're not interested in leaders that naturally arise organically.
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Bernie is an independent.
 
SKYNET said:
Not to be rude, I will pin your question and ask if we can we not isolate this exchange on Trump which you and I will not agree on? I already conceded you made a fair point and gave no intention towards entering in a debate with you about him.

Would you consider reflecting on my premise instead?
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did you not read where I said the Democrats kill every candidate that will not sell out to corporations?

I cant understand you asking this unless you are not reading my posts....
 
terrapin said:
The problem is that the Democratic party gangs up and kills anybody that isn't going to sell out corporations.
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While that is true, he could've easily applied pressure to them not to do that. Just tell them if they fuck him, he's going independent and taking his 20-30 million supporters with him. Instead, he said "Yes ma'am, may I have another" and rolled over for them...twice. He's one of the Democrat party's biggest fundraisers. And then he goes independent when it no longer matters.
 
HereticBD said:
While that is true, he could've easily applied pressure to them not to do that. Just tell them if they fuck him, he's going independent and taking his 20-30 million supporters with him. Instead, he said "Yes ma'am, may I have another" and rolled over for them...twice. He's one of the Democrat party's biggest fundraiser. And then he goes independent when it no longer matters.
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that ignores the existential moral threat that trump poses and that more than half the country is too mired in sin and hatred and spiritual blindness to recognize. these people are utterly blind to the times we live in and they can be found on both the right and the left.
 
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Do you agree with my premise? Yes or no?
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the reason I'm not answering is because I wont have good faith discussions with people incapable of that. if you dont read the posts I make to you.... then don't ask me to repeat myself. the information you are seeking is in the FIRST post I made to you....
 
terrapin said:
No that's just hateful and tired propaganda. The problem is that the Democratic party gangs up and kills anybody that isn't going to sell out corporations.
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And the other side doesn't? We are watching gov't officials, lawyers, being dismantled so there are no checks. Thank God for Amy Coney Barrett. An unexpected swing vote.

@N13 The basement is always DOPE.
 
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terrapin said:
that ignores the existential moral threat that trump poses and that more than half the country is too mired in sin and hatred and spiritual blindness to recognize. these people are utterly blind to the times we live in and they can get found on both the right and the left.
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That's just a bunch of nonsense, and the go to excuse for Bernie gleefully getting fucked in the ass and giving the Democrats all of your donations as a "thank you".

"I had to take in the ass from Democrats, 'cause Trump!"

Weak, baby bitch shit. Not a leader in any capacity. Bag of hot air.
 
Without reading the thread, the answer is AOC

She is the Democrats only hope and from now until the next elections, she can't get caught in any scandals or natural disasters that expose her incompetence

She is is the future of the Democrat party whether you like it or not

Gavin Newsom was eliminated for presidency with the LA fires

I predict next elections will be JD Vance vs AOC.. JD Vance wins a landslide and serves 2 terms.
 
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