Who is a greater/better fighter: Khabib or Volkanovski

[Streeter]

One guy fights and challenges himself regularly. One fought once a year and had maybe 5 fights against legit threats.

 

[RonDante]

They shoulda trained at AKA then.

And khabib should have stuck around to fight Charles or something, just to have one good grappler on his record and we wouldn’t argue about that part of his resume. Islam needs 1 maybe 2 more defenses and he’ll be the 155 goat, and he’ll have taken out Charles twice volk then gaethje or poirier

 

[HHJ]

. Islam needs 1 maybe 2 more defenses and he’ll be the 155 goat, and he’ll have taken out Charles twice volk then gaethje or poirier

That's fine,im sure Khabib will be happy for him.

 

[Ares Black]

lol this pathetic salty nerd crying all over this thread about khabib. Khabibs bag carrier beat volk, khabib would donkey kong he's head while chatting to dana in the corner like he did everyone else.

Vivid imagination you have.

A necessary tool for any Khabib fanboy.

 

[Ares Black]

And khabib should have stuck around to fight Charles or something, just to have one good grappler on his record and we wouldn’t argue about that part of his resume. Islam needs 1 maybe 2 more defenses and he’ll be the 155 goat, and he’ll have taken out Charles twice volk then gaethje or poirier

Makhachev already has a better resume than Khabib IMO.

The problem is that Khabib fans tend to combine their records when discussing Khabib's legacy. Wins for Makhachev somehow count as wins for Khabib too.

 

[RonDante]

Makhachev already has a better resume than Khabib IMO.

The problem is that Khabib fans tend to combine their records when discussing Khabib's legacy. Wins for Makhachev somehow count as wins for Khabib too.

Yeah they act like it’s just continuing on khabib career, even though Islam is a much better striker and just as good in the grappling

 

[Arcticman]

And khabib should have stuck around to fight Charles or something, just to have one good grappler on his record and we wouldn’t argue about that part of his resume. Islam needs 1 maybe 2 more defenses and he’ll be the 155 goat, and he’ll have taken out Charles twice volk then gaethje or poirier

Khabib dosent care he will be quit happy that guy he coached is the best. Khabib isnt insecure like jon jones and crys on twitter about people respecting he career. He has retired as an undefeated happy man and that kills some you.

 

[mjfan23]

Volk sample of success at the top is greater.

but Khabib being undefeated and rarely in trouble adds that aura of invincibility that always adds a new element to any analysis

 

[uff]

I don't thinking praising Volk's fight IQ is underestimating Khabib's. Khabib might have had a higher fight IQ, but we've never seen him have to adjust. That in itself could be a testament to it, but I'll maintain we haven't really seen Khabib ever really have to fight from a huge disadvantage, save for the strength discrepancy in the Tibau fight.

you clearly stated that Volk has a higher fight IQ than Khabib and that it's underestimating Nurmagomedov's IQ, in comparing them you apprise both guys's IQ and giving one the nod over the other while we have enough material to evaluate both and clearly come to the conclusion that they might be equivalent , you are simply discrediting what the corners do during a fight it's not like Volkanovski is adjusting on the fly , in the Max's fight he changed approach under corner's suggestion , what i don't like about "Volk's Fight IQ " talks is the fact that he boast it himself , never seen Khabib do that . On another note, what do you think would've happened if Holloway had been allowed to fight Khabib for the title?? do you think Nurmagomedov would've struggled like Volk did for 2 fights? And this is the fight (vs Iaquinta) where you see Khabib display his Fight IQ, ( he did really have a huge disavantage in fighting someone on a day's notice), and by the way in which fights Volk was at a huge disavantage??

 

[Morris88]

Volk.

You have a twooo hands... Like me...
Everything is possible!
Go...go! And just take it whatever you wanna do

 

[Snake_bite]

But what about Khabib beating Welterweights that don’t have Wikipedia pages. That makes up half his career.

beating no names in Dagestan still better than losing to no names in Australiam8

 

[balkanbomber85]

beating no names in Dagestan still better than losing to no names in Australiam8

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LOL works only when you hide the fact that that was in WW and Volk is freaking 5´6...

People tend to defend 6 foot and 195lbs-walkaround Kabib as to small for WW, although he fought in WW for most of his pre-UFC-career but now shit on Volk for losing a fight 2 weight categories above his natural one?

 

[abject]

Volkanovski's resume is greater, but he does have a loss against Islam, through many think it was a loss that made Volk look better.

Had Khabib challenged Usman and brought the fight to him and ended The fight on top of Usman, smashing him, but lost a 3-2 decidion, would we think more or less of him?

Also do you think Khabib would beat Volk in a fight? If Volk could shut his submission offense down like he did against Islam, good chance he could get the decision. What do you think?

The dude who went up a divsion and arguably won the title in a heavier division. One nearly died cutting weight and never considered fighting in the division above.

 

[Larzon]

Volk is greater regarding resume, defences etc, but Khabib is 100% better

Khabib dominates everyone Volk has ever shared a cage with including Islam

I wish max had of made it into the cage with khabib. He would have been ragdolled and submitted inside 3 or 4 rounds

1 round

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Manlets love volk <Lmaoo>

He's good but overrated. Couldn't carry khabibs jock. 2 more losses than khabib too. Both were boring. Crotch sniff vs paddy cake.

At least khabib strangles ppl. Volk can't crack a egg.

 

[Ares Black]

beating no names in Dagestan still better than losing to no names in Australiam8

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At Welterweight

 

[stacrafty]

you clearly stated that Volk has a higher fight IQ than Khabib and that it's underestimating Nurmagomedov's IQ, in comparing them you apprise both guys's IQ and giving one the nod over the other while we have enough material to evaluate both and clearly come to the conclusion that they might be equivalent , you are simply discrediting what the corners do during a fight it's not like Volkanovski is adjusting on the fly , in the Max's fight he changed approach under corner's suggestion , what i don't like about "Volk's Fight IQ " talks is the fact that he boast it himself , never seen Khabib do that . On another note, what do you think would've happened if Holloway had been allowed to fight Khabib for the title?? do you think Nurmagomedov would've struggled like Volk did for 2 fights? And this is the fight (vs Iaquinta) where you see Khabib display his Fight IQ, ( he did really have a huge disavantage in fighting someone on a day's notice), and by the way in which fights Volk was at a huge disavantage??

lmao who are you trying to fool?

Khabib is if anything on the lower end of fight IQ, along with Islam.

Their game plan is and was for every fight, come out and wrestle. Its even so apparent the commentary team often discuss "you know what hes going to do, you plan for it.... but in the fight you can't stop it"

whereas compared to Volk, hes out struck an elite of the elite striker (max) by moving into his power hand (3rd) and using leg kicks (2nd fight)
Out wrestled Yair
Out volumed Aldo

He has much more variation in his game plan and tactics

how are you even contemplating they are in the same universe when it comes to fight IQ?
Its not that's its a bad thing for them, they are so good at their specialities they don't need to use anything else.

 

[RayA]

you clearly stated that Volk has a higher fight IQ than Khabib and that it's underestimating Nurmagomedov's IQ, in comparing them you apprise both guys's IQ and giving one the nod over the other while we have enough material to evaluate both and clearly come to the conclusion that they might be equivalent , you are simply discrediting what the corners do during a fight it's not like Volkanovski is adjusting on the fly , in the Max's fight he changed approach under corner's suggestion , what i don't like about "Volk's Fight IQ " talks is the fact that he boast it himself , never seen Khabib do that . On another note, what do you think would've happened if Holloway had been allowed to fight Khabib for the title?? do you think Nurmagomedov would've struggled like Volk did for 2 fights? And this is the fight (vs Iaquinta) where you see Khabib display his Fight IQ, ( he did really have a huge disavantage in fighting someone on a day's notice), and by the way in which fights Volk was at a huge disavantage??

Khabib would have more than likely mauled Holloway. The thing is, the overwhelming majority of his fights have been against the same type of fighter. Strikers who prefer to keep it standing. Gaethje, Poirer, McGregor, Barboza, Johnson. Laquinta is an exception, but he was also a huge step down. Like if Volk prepared for Ortega, and instead got Bryce Mitchell.

And the disadvantages for Volk I'm speaking of are height and reach. Holloway would have over 10 lbs and 5 inches of height on Volk. In a predominantly striking fight, that's a pretty big advantage. Same story with Islam.

 

[uff]

lmao who are you trying to fool?

Khabib is if anything on the lower end of fight IQ, along with Islam.

Their game plan is and was for every fight, come out and wrestle. Its even so apparent the commentary team often discuss "you know what hes going to do, you plan for it.... but in the fight you can't stop it"

whereas compared to Volk, hes out struck an elite of the elite striker (max) by moving into his power hand (3rd) and using leg kicks (2nd fight)
Out wrestled Yair
Out volumed Aldo

He has much more variation in his game plan and tactics

how are you even contemplating they are in the same universe when it comes to fight IQ?
Its not that's its a bad thing for them, they are so good at their specialities they don't need to use anything else.

So you are telling me that fight IQ equate only to variation in techniques and game planning ? you might want to recheck your own IQ mate, you telling me that imposing your own game plan to any fighter you have faced has nothing to do with subtle variation in the approach you have to bring to impose your will ? Come on, outwrestling Yair which is predominantly a striker, lol , i hardly call that a highly intelligent move, it is the approach any, even the dumbest fighter ,would make, Lol at choosing this example to prove Volk's mythical Fight IQ; out "voluming" on the decline Aldo , Max show ther blueprint on how to do it 2 years before ,when Aldo was still Aldo, (high fight IQ my azz, just copied someone else game plan).

 

[jsbx45]

Another subtle way to say that Khabit is not the Goat. Pathetic

Why you cryin'? Didn't you just say in another thread that "GOAT" is a Sherdog Myth?