Who here is still Catholic??

[new_mexico1]

The thing is that those corrupt leaders who`ve been corrupt since the start and have been corrupt for all of it`s history are the ones who shaped the religion as we know it, they`re the ones who edited and amended the bible, they decided what made the cut and what didn`t. They decided on what the church`s stance on a wide variety of issues are.

The religion as we know it was built and molded in a specific way by corrupt ppl. Why believe in something that`s built on lies told by dubious ppl with an obvious agenda.

Jesus himself wasnt a christian and certainly wouldnt be one today.

Nobody is talking about the legit reasons to not like Christianity or Catholicism. The ones blasting in this thread are going on about the recent scandals. A poster even said that is what made him quit. These scandals don't have anything to do with the beliefs. If the Bible or official canon said "priests are allowed to molest children and everyone has to cover it up." then you can blame the religion. Like I said, there are plenty of legit reasons to hate the actual religion. Stuff that is part of their actual beliefs. These scandals aren't one of them. You should be angry at Church officials and the priests for these.

As for your point of the corrupt people deciding what is to be believed, it's true. But they were hypocrites. Most of them preached of behavior much different than how they acted. That means you gotta judge the beliefs on their own rather than who made them part of the official canon. Judging a religion on administrative officials is one big Tu Quoque argument.

 

[Steve Dougson]

... it makes me nauseous...

You're not that ugly!

 

[KrazyKanadian]

Nobody is talking about the legit reasons to not like Christianity or Catholicism. The ones blasting in this thread are going on about the recent scandals. A poster even said that is what made him quit. These scandals don't have anything to do with the beliefs. If the Bible or official canon said "priests are allowed to molest children and everyone has to cover it up." then you can blame the religion. Like I said, there are plenty of legit reasons to hate the actual religion. Stuff that is part of their actual beliefs. These scandals aren't one of them. You should be angry at Church officials and the priests for these.

As for your point of the corrupt people deciding what is to be believed, it's true. But they were hypocrites. Most of them preached of behavior much different than how they acted. That means you gotta judge the beliefs on their own rather than who made them part of the official canon. Judging a religion on administrative officials is one big Tu Quoque argument.

Well, how about the fact that god was a vengeful asshole that killed far more people than satan ever did, and the bible has between rewritten about 14 million times....

 

[new_mexico1]

Well, how about the fact that god was a vengeful asshole that killed far more people than satan ever did.

That's a good reason.

 

[ucunc156]

To say the catholic belief is pointless because of corrupt officials who decided what was cannon is like saying the American constitution is pointless because of the fact it was made by slave owners.

 

[Quantum Guard]

Lol at stuck with it. How is it affecting your life? Why would you even want to bother with "unregistering" or whatever?

Because religion is everything wrong with the world (exaggerated only slightly). By remaining a registered member, you are contributing to a very wealthy and powerful entity that is tax-exempt and that promotes destructive ideas to the detriment of society.

 

[IronShogun.]

I'm still Catholic and honestly I have no idea of what you are talking about.

 

[Tiger Uppercut]

i jumped ship many years ago. I went to catholic elementary and middle school, as well as went to church/mass EVERY sunday until i was around 17.

Basically grew up and realized it was silly.

 

[new_mexico1]

I'm still Catholic and honestly I have no idea of what you are talking about.

You have to read the thread.

 

[wlu29]

Because religion is everything wrong with the world (exaggerated only slightly). By remaining a registered member, you are contributing to a very wealthy and powerful entity that is tax-exempt and that promotes destructive ideas to the detriment of society.

Hyperbole

 

[new_mexico1]

Because religion is everything wrong with the world (exaggerated only slightly). By remaining a registered member, you are contributing to a very wealthy and powerful entity that is tax-exempt and that promotes destructive ideas to the detriment of society.

In the U.S. there is no "remaining registered" and I'd put the blame on stupid people. Most people aren't even following their religion properly. This isn't the Middle Ages anymore.

 

[NorCalNinja]

http://www.spiegel.de/international...spitals-turned-rape-victim-away-a-878215.html

"A 25 year-old woman who was, without her knowledge, given a date rape drug and attacked was turned away for treatment by two Catholic hospitals in Cologne, Germany, after being told that the hospitals had a policy of not treating rape victims."

January 17, 2013

Is this another person just trying to get money out of the church?


So much for how awesome the Catholics are for their hospitals...

 

[Nomad Nemesis**]

http://www.spiegel.de/international...spitals-turned-rape-victim-away-a-878215.html

"A 25 year-old woman who was, without her knowledge, given a date rape drug and attacked was turned away for treatment by two Catholic hospitals in Cologne, Germany, after being told that the hospitals had a policy of not treating rape victims."

January 17, 2013

Is this another person just trying to get money out of the church?


So much for how awesome the Catholics are for their hospitals...

probably.

are catholics the only ones who open churches?

go to another church if you want an abortion

if because of their religion they think abortion is murder and murder is bad and you will go to hell of you do that, then how can you expect catholic hospitals to do this?

this is their faith whether you believe it or not

they cannot say, "well, i believe all this stuff in this book and the afterlife it presents, but let me just totally break what my religion says to give this abortion"

maybe the atheists will start making hospitals or some shit besides whining some day. i would not bet on it

 

[NorCalNinja]

maybe the atheists will start making hospitals or some shit besides whining some day. i would not bet on it

LOL, its already happened jabroni.

Bill Gates and Andrew Carnegie have done about 100 times more philanthropy than the Catholic Church if you measured it in $.

You should bet on it, cuz its a fucking fact.

 

[ucunc156]

LOL, its already happened jabroni.

Bill Gates and Andrew Carnegie have done about 100 times more philanthropy than the Catholic Church if you measured it in $.

You should bet on it, cuz its a fucking fact.

this is just about the dumbest fucking statement ever. yes, 2 men, have outcontributed one of the biggest religions in the world that have been around for centuries.

oh and unlike you I will actually post figures:
bill gates 28 billion since 2007. http://www.inquisitr.com/181177/sin...ent-of-his-net-worth-for-charity-infographic/
catholic church: over 8 billion per year. and thats just to pure charities (only 4.7% of their annual spending). not including the rest of the money they spend. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...e-catholic-church-spent-171600000000-in-2010/. oh yeah and thats just in america.

and those shitty catholic hospitals they spend on? thats another 98.6 billion per year.

 

[Fat Abbot]

I`d be interested in seeing the numbers.

While they do some charity work, it`s no secret the church hordes a lot of it`s money.

 

[ucunc156]

I`d be interested in seeing the numbers.

While they do some charity work, it`s no secret the church hordes a lot of it`s money.

unlike norcal, i actually posted stats. look at the economist article to see the stats.

oh and that article isnt pro catholic, in fact it rips the church plenty. just posted it to show how dumb your fucking statement was.

 

[JuliaB4GSP]

I`d be interested in seeing the numbers.

While they do some charity work, it`s no secret the church hordes a lot of it`s money.

Catholic Church doesn't do charity work. They have to pay for their decaying infrastructure, empty churches, convents, schools, with falling numbers. They can't afford to help out people in need. Catholic Charities is a mess. You want to adopt a kid through them that the government was supporting through Foster Care? That'll be 10% of your salary, up front. Charge it on your credit card and come visit when you need legal aid.

 

[Steve Dougson]

The video embedded in the patheos link is pretty hiliarious:

 

[fingercuffs]

Ya, there is, Im fucking pissed that people get away with such evil.

sorry, dude, but its a very emotional topic. I could keep my cool on any other issue.

After seeing that documentary Deliver Us From Evil, you put your self in the shoes of those kids whose lives got ruined, and it breaks your heart. One of them, right down the road in Stockton.

Noone went to prison. The Vatican made sure of that.

I've just finished watching this and I have to say that if I was in any way, shape or form associated with the Catholic Church like the TS I'd be doing everything in my power to put an end to that.