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Who do you think is physically stronger between prime Karelin and current Ngannou?

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  1. Swepingright Banned Banned

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    These are the two strongest pure combat sport athletes in history in my opinion. Ngannou basically Tkoed Stipe with a jab and picked up Shaquille oneall with a smile on his face. It wasn't even a challenge.

    Who is stronger?
     
  2. Mal Intentions Brown Belt

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    its literally not even close, karelin by a long shot. frank is a big guy that hits hard af but karelin is literally on an entire dif level of strength
     
  3. blastoff Banned Banned

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    Karelin by a mile

    Punching power strength
     
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    Karelin is stronger and Ngannou is maybe more explosive.
     
  5. blastoff Banned Banned

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    That depends too

    Karelin was ridiculously explosive when it came to throwing weight around, but obviously he wouldn't be able to punch as fast or hard as Francis

    Karelin was also 290+lbs of muscle in his prime; 30lbs more than Francis
     
  6. Swepingright Banned Banned

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    Ngannou has both. And no it's not totally different. There is a very close correlation.
     
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    picture a wrestler that would be able to man handle Lesnar, that was Karelin
     
  8. blastoff Banned Banned

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    Not at all

    There are plenty of elite boxers known for their power that wouldn't be able to outlift your average gym bro

    Someone who is insanely strong in lifting weight is also more likely to be stiffer when it comes to explosive movements
     
  9. Swepingright Banned Banned

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    You don't know how strong Ngannou is
     
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    We haven't seen Ngannou's strength on display outside of ko power and we haven't seen Karelin punch or kick. What do they bench, squat, deadlift?
     
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    i actually know exactly how strong he is, down to the molecular level of the atoms that compose his body, and im not impressed
     
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    Just because Francis won the rematch it doesn't erase the first fight. It was pure domination from Stipe.
     
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    Karelin would not pass USADA
     
  14. Swepingright Banned Banned

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    Not true. Fast twitching muscles and isometric strength is strongly correlated.

    See here a perfect example of that

     
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    Wtf
     
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    Karelin would pick up Ngannou and twirl him on his finger like a basketball. His signature move was picking up 280+ lbs men dead off the floor from his knees and throwing them back over his head. It's not even close.
     
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    Extremely unlikely that Francis is as strong as Karelin was.

    Karelin had extraordinary strength, few ever have that kind of power. Francis is a hard sluggin' dude, but not anything like Karelin.
     
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    The exception, not the rule

    And the dude he was fighting is a garbage striker
     
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    well i think most hw Olympic wrestler are probably stronger than ngannou
     
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  20. Swepingright Banned Banned

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    Karelins supposed bench press is 704 Lb, which would put him in the elites if true.

    I don't have any numbers on Ngannou but he would be close
     

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