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Who do you believe UFC or USADA?

Who do you believe?

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fzoid4454 said:
I think it was more the Brock Lesnar exemption fiasco, and them unwilling to get burned like that again.

I'm sure they stand by the Jones thing. It's not the evil conspiracy that people who dislike Jones claim it is.
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True, the Lesnar thing was pretty bad.

The whole "exception under extraordinary circumstances" was huge blow for USADA reputation
 
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I believe USADA because UFC is in Conor's pocket based on how Dana is acting and threatening legal action against USADA over "disgusting Conor comments". I mean, they are really sensitive about this drugged, coked up and drunk Conor so how did USADA have the audacity to spill the beans on Conor who was trying to get away with being juiced up?
 
fzoid4454 said:
I'm sure they stand by the Jones thing. It's not the evil conspiracy that people who dislike Jones claim it is.
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We know they do seeing as Grant Dawson and Muslim Salikhov's tests were waived away under the same pulsing excuse.

The only one they fucked over was Mir who they maintained the suspension over and which nobody seems to know why.
 
Well, although the US government has no publicly stated or tangential input or influence over USADA, but since it was created out of government need, I have zero doubt that it is horribly inefficient and corrupt.
 
MMAFanCal said:
I believe USADA because UFC is in Conor's pocket based on how Dana is acting and threatening legal action against USADA over "disgusting Conor comments". I mean, they are really sensitive about this drugged, coked up and drunk Conor so how did USADA have the audacity to spill the beans on Conor who was trying to get away with being juiced up?
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USADA straight up implied Conor is on steroids with their statement.

While Conor is literally in USADA's pool and USADA should catch him if that's the case.

Either USADA are shit testers and deserve to be kicked to the curb for such incompetence or they're defaming him.
 
If conor is the trigger to get rid of usada then thats all that matters to me.
 
markg171 said:
USADA straight up implied Conor is on steroids with their statement.

While Conor is literally in USADA's pool and USADA should catch him if that's the case.

Either USADA are shit testers and deserve to be kicked to the curb or they're defaming him.
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He JUST entered the pool tho. And do you think he would enter if there was any chance he could get caught?
 
jsbx45 said:
He JUST entered the pool tho. And do you think he would enter if there was any chance he could get caught?
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I dont know, but one must consider this whole debacle very suspect.
 
jsbx45 said:
usada 100%. Read thier statement. It is totally reasonable. We all know what UFC wanted, and they didn't get it.
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Your logic makes zero sense. How is their statement totally reasonable if the UFC didn't get what they wanted? That means USADA did.
 
USADA is not a UFC company so they probably don't care what the UFC wants and is more inclined to do their job their way. The UFC is under the governance of USADA so I'd believe the UFC would try to skirt process.
 
jsbx45 said:
He JUST entered the pool tho. And do you think he would enter if there was any chance he could get caught?
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They can test him 24/7 until Jan 1 if they're so convinced he's on PEDs. If he is they'll catch him. If he's not they defamed him by saying he's on steroids and then literally proving he isn't.

As to your 2nd point, you're just proving how reckless of a statement it was to ever put out without any positive tests.
 
UFC isn't suing anyone. What they said could not rise to the level of defamation in any court and would be thrown out summary judgment. This is the last anyone is going to hear about this. Media doesn't care, fans don't care.
 
markg171 said:
If USADA were being honest and above board they'd issue a second statement now that details about the switch to Drug Free Sport have been made public and concerns about Conor have been addressed. Everything they claimed to fear for isn't happening. It should be pretty simple to release a second statement retracting the first and saying some bullshit about how they're glad to hear testing is continuing in their former partner and wish them well.

The fact that they haven't shows that yeah, they're just the bitter ex angry that they lost such a big contract to a competitor.
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Exactly. And they got what they wanted by making everyone say "UFC IS BRINGING BACK ROIDS CAUSE OF CONOR" like grow up.
 
I believe UFC wants to make Endeavor shareholders very happy by getting Conor back in time for UFC 300, which is supposed to be in April 2024. By entering the USADA pool, Conor wouldn’t have been eligible for that card. Now they avoid that problem all together.

I feel bad for the honest fighters that don’t cheat.
 
markg171 said:
We know they do seeing as Grant Dawson and Muslim Salikhov's tests were waived away under the same pulsing excuse.

The only one they fucked over was Mir who they maintained the suspension over and which nobody seems to know why.
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Both Mir and Jones were suspended for their first pop for Turinabol. The whole pulsing thing happened when Jones popped the second time. Mir had already served out his suspension at that point.

Both Dawson and Salikhov had to go through a process of getting tested and gathering evidence they were pulsing. No point doing that with Mir since he wasn't serving a suspension and wasn't even with the promotion anymore.
 
Why is ufc mad at USAda for doing their job? What an I missing
 
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