Who can deal with khamzat realistically?

helltoupee said:
This is #1 bullshit.

Hamzat is a more active UFC fighter than Sherdog's darling diva Topuria.

OMG! He didn't book fights when he had COVID and almost died from continuing to train regardless.

The UFC purposely slowed his roll when he came out of the gate with 3 fights in 2 months.

Buncha salty DDP fans in here who are permanently butthurt that DuPlessis looked like an unranked amateur against borz.

Such a boring and tired trope. 'Khamzat never fights'. You sound like someone who is more comfortable eating double bacon cheeseburgers from McDonald's and watching monster truck shows than anything to do with physical combat. Dorks. Go play some call of duty or something because you suck at this.
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I like how you call his inactivity bullshit.
Then make
*well he's more active then Topuria (even with his 3 cans he beat in a month he's not lol) who's also bottom of the activity barrel.
*well he had covid
*well he trained during covid
*well the UFC conspires against him so he can't fight

:D ... so yeah he's inactive AF.
 
helltoupee said:
This is #1 bullshit.

Hamzat is a more active UFC fighter than Sherdog's darling diva Topuria.

OMG! He didn't book fights when he had COVID and almost died from continuing to train regardless.

The UFC purposely slowed his roll when he came out of the gate with 3 fights in 2 months.

Buncha salty DDP fans in here who are permanently butthurt that DuPlessis looked like an unranked amateur against borz.

Such a boring and tired trope. 'Khamzat never fights'. You sound like someone who is more comfortable eating double bacon cheeseburgers from McDonald's and watching monster truck shows than anything to do with physical combat. Dorks. Go play some call of duty or something because you suck at this.
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You are fake news. The numbers are clear, they have very similar activity but Illia tops him (pun intended). He had Covid end of 2020, so I'm not even counting 2020 and 2021.

Illia:
  • 2022: 2 fights
  • 2023: 1 fight
  • 2024: 2 fights
  • 2025: 1 fight
  • Total: 6 fights
Khamzat:
  • 2022: 2 fights
  • 2023, 2024, 2025: 1 fight per year.
  • Total: 5 fights
Add to that that Khamzat takes zero damage in most fights and wins them within a round. So why is he not more active?
 
anyone who can scramble and survive. he'll melt after 2-3 rds of being forced to exert himself during every grappling exchange and then he's done.
 
WoozyFailGuy said:
His fans are the biggest marks in the sport. For example:
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In +- 2020 i made thread about him titled something as " Is this best WW prospect outside of UFC?" after i heard Martinek from KSW and few other fighters talk about sparrings with him in Stockholm. 99% of People were mad at me / laughed at me that Soldič is best one outside of UFC and that Khamzat is just a bum. Funny how he is "GOAT" to so many meanwhile he is doing absolutely same things as before and his fiight style never changed... :D
 
WoozyFailGuy said:
His fans are the biggest marks in the sport. For example:
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If we look at the prediction accuracy of Khamzat's fans vs his "haters", his fans definitely come out on top.

Especially prevalent in the emotional and failed arguments leading up to the Dricus-fight, where "he's too big and strong, Khamzat almost got KO'd by a LW" were self-soothing arguments repeated ad naseum.

Khamzat's previous fights were judged extremely harshly, with no consideration for real factors like stylistic match ups or injuries/illness, etc, whereas Dricus was being judged with rose-tinted glasses, example; speculation about how Dricus unorthodox style of striking would work vs a big takedown threat vs in fights where Dricus was the takedown threat, were kind of left out of the analysis.
 
I'd put my money on Izzy in his prime.
Also if his fight with Burns is any indication, a MV version of Joaquin Buckley would give a good run for money.
 
Who could defeat a fighter with THREE fights vs ranked opponents at his current division?
... A well-timed knee, a punch, a kick.

As for now, Chimaev is a one trick pony. It's a great, awesome pony.
Khabib was a two trick pony: he had a hell of a chin and endurance to leg kicks and body shots, and his defensive striking was... reliable.

Does Chimaev have a chin at MW? Has he improved his tendencies to reckless striking?
 
Tokoloko said:
Jiri straight up kills him in LHW.
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Its possible that Jiri can knock him up, but its more likely that Jiris horrible takedown defense would fail him. Ancient Glover was dragging him to the ground pretty easily but he was too old and slow to deal with Jiris explosiveness on the ground. Khamzat is a much better wrestler and overall grappler than Glover. He has a really good chance of finishing Jiri on the ground because unlike DDP, Jiri would expose himself on the ground in his attempts to escape.
 
dschinghiskhan1 said:
Its possible that Jiri can knock him up, but its more likely that Jiris horrible takedown defense would fail him. Ancient Glover was dragging him to the ground pretty easily but he was too old and slow to deal with Jiris explosiveness on the ground. Khamzat is a much better wrestler and overall grappler than Glover. He has a really good chance of finishing Jiri on the ground because unlike DDP, Jiri would expose himself on the ground in his attempts to escape.
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"Ancient" Glover was in my opinion at the peak in fight with Jiri/Jan - Yea cardiowise not due to his age, but skillwise definitely. Training with Pereira made him much more dangerous in standup as he shown in fight with Blachowicz for example. Anyways. Jiri got constantly taken down vs Glover because of flying knees...i dont think that he will repeat this. + Dont forget that he managed to not get finished by superior grappler than Khamzat. + By what i know he did not have specific BJJ trainer back in 2022. That changed after that particular fight...

Only way Khamzat wins is that he somehow choke out Jiri. Otherwise he will gas himself out or Jiri will KO him...

edit: Also we did not see Jiri on ground for +- 5years.
 
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dschinghiskhan1 said:
Its possible that Jiri can knock him up, but its more likely that Jiris horrible takedown defense would fail him. Ancient Glover was dragging him to the ground pretty easily but he was too old and slow to deal with Jiris explosiveness on the ground. Khamzat is a much better wrestler and overall grappler than Glover. He has a really good chance of finishing Jiri on the ground because unlike DDP, Jiri would expose himself on the ground in his attempts to escape.
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Weight classes exist...
Jiri kills him. That doesn't make him a better fighter per se.
Makes him a natural LHW with absurd reach, power, chin and physicality.
 
Tokoloko said:
"Ancient" Glover was in my opinion at the peak in fight with Jiri/Jan - Yea cardiowise not due to his age, but skillwise definitely. Training with Pereira made him much more dangerous in standup as he shown in fight with Blachowicz for example. Anyways. Jiri got constantly taken down vs Glover because of flying knees...i dont think that he will repeat this. + Dont forget that he managed to not get finished by superior grappler than Khamzat. + By what i know he did not have specific BJJ trainer back in 2022. That changed after that particular fight...

Only way Khamzat wins is that he somehow choke out Jiri. Otherwise he will gas himself out or Jiri will KO him...

edit: Also we did not see Jiri on ground for +- 5years.
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Glover was too slow at this point of his career. He lost dominant position on the ground because he was too slow to adapt and adjust to a Jiris escapes. Also if you look at how Glover fails to secure the back, theres no way someone like Khamzat would just slide off like that. Hes too fast and much more technical than Glover.

Yes Glover got Jiri down due to flying knees/strikes, but you can tell from the scrambles that Jiri doesnt really know what to do.

Even if he doesn't throwing any flying strikes against Khamzat, the problem is that Khamzat actually shoots. Glover never had a good shot and at this point, he was too slow anyway. Khamzat shoots better and chain wrestles better than anyone in the division. It would be takedown after takedown and Jiri would only try to bridge him off or use the cage to scramble. But his defensive wrestling is so poor, its easy to see him getting dragged back down to the mat.
 
Rubios said:
Weight classes exist...
Jiri kills him. That doesn't make him a better fighter per se.
Makes him a natural LHW with absurd reach, power, chin and physicality.
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They dont mean as much if theres a huge difference in technical skill. A good comparison is some of Jailton Almeidas fights against random fat slobs like Lewis and others whose names I forget. I think he gave up around 30lbs in those fights. Now obviously Jiri is more skilled than most of those cans, but his takedown defense and grappling are really bad. So I can definitely see many scenarios where Khamzat would be too much for him.
 
the only person that can defeat kamzhat is kamzhat.

i don't even think US wrestling credentials at this point can compete.

kamzhat / islam they have tailored their wrestling for the cage, focusing on nothing else.

american wrestlers think they're jean claude van dame after KO'ing a nobody.

realistically, it would take some higher ranked wrestler to potentially on deal with kamzhats wrestling.

but that doesn't take into account striking, cage awareness, etc.

plenty of olympic champions have gotten beaten in wrestling in the cage.
 
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