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[bacon]

That just made my morning, Donut. Thanks.

 

[Donut62]

4/8/08 - Tuesday - Sheiko #29 Week 1 Day 2

Deficit Deadlift (3.5" box):
265 (50%)x3
298 (55%)x3
331 (60%)x3x2
353 (65%)x3x4 (All done DOH grip)

Incline Bench:
135x6
185x6x4

Deadlift from Boxes (bar 2" below knee):
292 (55%)x4
342 (65%)x4
397 (75%)x4x2
452 (85%)x3x4 (added belt for last two sets)

Dips:
BW+50x5x5

Bulg SS:
50'sx5x5

Hanging Leg Raise:
BWx10x3

I forgot how much balls deadlift days suck for your hands. I almost broke down and added straps, but manned up and made it through without tearing a callous. I was tempted to use 545 for my max since I was so close to getting it, but remembered that it's best to shoot a little low for deadlifts on Sheiko and went with 240kg (530). Even at that, it was real fucking hard, but not impossibly so. I'm loving the deficit deads in place of halting deadlifts.

 

[ChaseT.]

I've done either reduced volume or used a lower max on just about all of my Sheiko training. There is no way I'm going to go and up my max for training purposes by 35lbs.

 

[ChaseT.]

^^^^^^^^^
*for deadlift*

 

[Donut62]

Yeah, I agree. I think 530 will work pretty well for me. I think a big difference maker is that Sheiko teaches everyone to pull sumo because of the gear carry over, and sumo is generally less stressful than conventional to train because of reduced ROM and less hip extension. That's my own hair brained theory though.

 

[enright3060]

* drinks diet soda *

 

[Donut62]

* drinks diet soda *

I pussed out and had a can

 

[ChaseT.]

Ugh...I emailed Eric Talmant's coach last week and he never emailed me back. Now I have to decide which prep cycle to start today.

 

[fat_wilhelm]

Treadmill story was wonderful.

Donut, you're still in Toledo, right? If so, then one of theses days, we should get a session together. It's only an hour away, if that.

 

[Donut62]

Yes, I am still here for the next year or so, so we should do that sometime.

 

[ChaseT.]

http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=71291&tid=

 

[Donut62]

I think I have a man crush on Jim Wendler.

 

[ChaseT.]

I think I have a man crush on Jim Wendler.

Me too.

 

[theNuge]

That's some impressive volume. I haven't read those Sheiko programs yet but from the look of what you're doing they seem like ballbusters.

 

[Deleted member 130905]

I did Sheiko for like a week, it was tough. I would be in the gym over 2 hours each time and begin to lose focus, so I had to drop it. Especially if I train events, I didn't even do that last week since I had no time.

 

[takeahnase]

Apparently "getting stronger" is a goal, but "getting leaner" isn't...

 

[Donut62]

Apparently "getting stronger" is a goal, but "getting leaner" isn't...

Don't be stupid. Neither of those are concrete goals with a defined start and end. They are vague words. Just like the guy at the gym who does the same bench press workout everyday for the past two years "is working out". Squatting 600 pounds is a goal. Getting to 10% bodyfat is a goal. "Getting lean" is something people say because they can't handle the stress of actually having to work hard in a timeframe and risk failure. Actually having a timeframe means you need to construct some sort of a progression, so I guess that's the anti-thesis of what Crossfit is all about.

 

[Zerocrew1984]

i want to get lean

 

[takeahnase]

Don't be stupid. Neither of those are concrete goals with a defined start and end.

I am aware of this. My point is that if I enter a powerlifting gym and tell them that my goal is getting stronger, nobody raises an eyebrow and asks me for specifics. Maybe if I aks for a PT session with Wendler, otherwise: No. I also don't think that every powerlifting gym in the country

1. Tests and evaluates thier clients for health.
2. Has clients spend several weeks and/or months in general GPP sessions to build up proper muscles and conditioning to do workouts.
3. Has client spends considerable time working their technique.

They may do this if you request PT or are member of a team, but I would like to see the gym that offers (requires!) these services to you simply upon becoming a member.

 

[Donut62]

I don't see anywhere where he alluded to all powerlifting gyms having physical training nailed down to a science. Even Jim talks about making ass loads of mistakes and learing by trial and error at garage gyms across the country until he went to Westside.

These gyms aren't charging $100-150 a month (the average Crossfit membership), aren't advertising themselves as "certified" specialists, and aren't passing themselves off as creating a complete and wholistic training modality that is really just a bunch of GPP crap thrown together. And I don't know of any powerlifting gym that would consider something that is appropriate for advanced level practioners to also be suitable for everyone at all levels.