Which GOAT win was the best between these 2?

[Fioretti]

What facts am I ignoring? Enlighten me.

All of em. Is normal.

 

[ThunderStruck]

The fact that Fitch was ranked so high for so long with less top 10 and top 5 wins just shows he was in a weaker and more shallow division. Consensus #2 for 42 months without ever beating a #2 or #3? Weird.

A top 10 win at ww was just like a top 5 win at MW cause there was twice as many competitors. Demographics my son.

 

[ThunderStruck]

All of em. Is normal.

Nah man, just list them. All of the numerous FACTS that I am ignoring.

 

[Fioretti]

A top 10 win at ww was just like a top 5 win at MW cause there was twice as many competitors. Demographics my son.

This is you, once again, ignoring facts, math, and reality.

Nah man, just list them. All of the numerous FACTS that I am ignoring.

They've been listed. This is you, once again, ignoring facts, math, and reality.

Is normal.

 

[ThunderStruck]

This was proven false multiple times.

Oh yeah? Are you sure?

 

[ThunderStruck]

This is you, once again, ignoring facts, math, and reality.



They've been listed. This is you, once again, ignoring facts, math, and reality.

Is normal.

Just list them. And you're the one that can't do maths.

Tell me... if a fighter is top 10 in a pool of 100 competitors and another guy is top 10 in a pool of 50 competitors.

Who actually has a better ranking?

 

[Fioretti]

Oh yeah? Are you sure?

Yes.

Fitch earned his shot by beating unranked Chris Wilson (making his UFC debut) and only having 1 top 10 win in his entire career.

Okami beat #4 Marquardt to earn his and had at least 4 top 10 wins in his career at that point.

 

[Fioretti]

Just list them. And you're the one that can't do maths.

Tell me... if a fighter is top 10 in a pool of 100 competitors and another guy is top 10 in a pool of 50 competitors.

Who actually has a better ranking?

The one who earned it.

 

[SKITZADACTYL]

Okami started the fight fully focused, following his game plan and even was in his route to edge the 1st round.
It was a solid lead head kick with 10 seconds left he didnt saw coming what missed with his confidence and turned him hesitant of opening up in the slighest.

Anderson was making Yushin look real bad, in the same over hesitant mode, in their first encounter back in 2006, and that was in Hawai not in front of Brazilian audience. Do you think it's coincidence?

One the one hand, we had seen Okami taking shots from power punchers just fine many times before; on the other hand we saw that same fear reaction in plenty of Silva's opponents after realizing they could take a solid accurate shot without see it coming from almost any direction with any limb.

Only GSP fanboys in sherbro take the credit away from Silva in such phenomenon and instead use it to downplay his competition and performances. But dont make mistake mate, fellow fighters and the mma community credited Silva for that and knew about this special talent of him.

lol yikes, its alright bud i know the agenda.

you guys can have your little argument, anyone with a brain knows whats up.

 

[Fesaine]

I don't rate either of them that highly prime Fitch was a lot better than okami.

 

[ThunderStruck]

The one who earned it.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh damn you're as retarded as i thought.

 

[cade187]

One was ranked #2 for about 4 months total in his career, the other was ranked #2 for 32 months. One was never ranked top 10 p4p, the other was.

Their rankings weren't on the same level.

2 = 2. That’s the same level. No one is saying Okami was ranked 2 longer. You’ve decided that’s the only thing that matters, and that’s fine; that’s your opinion. My opinion is that destroying and finishing Okami is more impressive than dominating Fitch in a 5 round decision.

 

[Fioretti]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh damn you're as retarded as i thought.

Your projections are as failed as your logic, PeeWee.

Fitch was 19-2-1 (86.36% win rate) with 11 finishes (57.89% finish rate in 19 victories) over 6 years in one weight class. 1 verified top 10 win - earned his shot by beating unranked UFC newcomer Chris Wilson.

Okami was 27-5 (84.38% win rate) with 14 finishes (51.85% finish rate in 27 victories) over 9 years across 3 weight classes. At least 4 verified top 10 wins - earned his shot by beating #4 ranked former title contender and multi-time former Pancrase Champion Nate Marquardt.

How was Fitch such a significantly better win? How is his ranking justified over Okami? How much more did he do than Okami? Why is beating a guy with 6 years experience and 1 top 10 win by decision better than knocking out a guy who has 50% more experience in 3x as many weightclasses, an almost identical win rate, very similar finishing rate, and at least 4x the top 10 wins? How? Oh....that's right. Only because WW was shallow and weak enough to have the first guy keep his rank for three and a half years without having to beat any top 5 guys. Amirite? The same weight class that handed him a title shot after beating an unranked fighter new to the promotion. Gotcha, buddeh.

You get wrecked every single time, son. Move along.

 

[Fioretti]

 

[knock_you_out]

2. GSP.

 

[mirko>anyone]

It’s not even close. Jon Fitch was an immensely better win than Okami.

 

[Fioretti]

It’s not even close. Jon Fitch was an immensely better win than Okami.

Fitch was 19-2-1 (86.36% win rate) with 11 finishes (57.89% finish rate in 19 victories) over 6 years in one weight class. 1 verified top 10 win - earned his shot by beating unranked UFC newcomer Chris Wilson.

Okami was 27-5 (84.38% win rate) with 14 finishes (51.85% finish rate in 27 victories) over 9 years across 3 weight classes. At least 4 verified top 10 wins - earned his shot by beating #4 ranked former title contender and multi-time former Pancrase Champion Nate Marquardt.

How, though?

 

[gono btw]

I think it was a draw. How did you score it?

You know you're reaching when you praise a fighter for his draws and UD losses (Franklin). That is what Pankrat is doing.

I think all the options are on the table... Draw would be the most realistic outcome, while a Shields Win would be the least realistic one...

The assessment of that final round would indeed be the tricky part...

 

[mjfan23]

I think GSP's win over Fitch was very much a legacy defining win.

Not really IMO.

Fitch didn’t sustain value as an opponent over time.

To sell this win (and a great achievement it was) one has to do a lot of explaining about Fitch being an unbeatable smothering opponent back then and GSP shutting down his wrestling game like it’s nothing.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

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Notice the loss to the 1 eyed cyclops. Bisping's easiest win of his career.

Definitely not the easiest win. Bisping took some serious damage in that fight.

Sure, Silva lost some fights when he was around 40 and had around 40 fights. He is obviously way past his prime from when he went on a 17 fight win streak and broke all the UFC records.